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Thread started 12/14/03 10:27am

MD7

Lauryn Hill disses Pope

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(Lifted from yahoo news)
Singer Lauryn Hill Blasts Church at Vatican Concert

By Philip Pullella

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - American singer Lauryn Hill, from a stage used by the Pope, shocked Catholic officials at a concert by telling them to "repent" and alluding to sexual abuse of children by U.S. priests.

The broadside came during the recording Saturday night of a Christmas concert attended by top Vatican (news - web sites) cardinals, bishops and many elite of Italian society, witnesses said.

Hill made her comments when taking the microphone to sing at the concert, held in the same huge hall and stage Pope John Paul (news - web sites) uses for his weekly general audiences and other events. The Pope was not present.

"I did not come here to celebrate the birth of Christ with you but to ask you why you are not in mourning for his death inside this place," she said according to a transcript of her statement run by the Rome newspaper La Repubblica.

A spokesman for Prime Time Productions, the concert's organizers, said the newspaper's quotes were accurate.

"God has been a witness to the corruption of his leadership, of the exploitation and abuses ... by the clergy," she said.

This was an apparent reference to the scandal in the United States last year over the sexual abuse of children by priests.

Hill told the crowd to seek blessings "from God not men" and said she did "not believe in representatives of God on earth."

A few feet away in the front row sat five cardinals, including Edmund Szoka, American governor of Vatican City.

Hill, 28, did not sing the song listed on the program but instead sang a song about social injustice.

Organizers said Hill's outburst and performance would most probably be cut from the show when it is aired on Christmas Eve.

Hill shot to fame in the mid-1990s with band The Fugees, whose album "The Score" sold 17 million copies, to become one of the biggest hip-hop chart successes of all time.

She went on to win five Grammy awards for her debut solo album, "The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill." She has a son and daughter by Rohan Marley, the son of Reggae legend Bob Marley.
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Reply #1 posted 12/14/03 10:32am

Harlepolis

shocked
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Reply #2 posted 12/14/03 10:51am

Number23

Right on, sister.
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Reply #3 posted 12/14/03 10:51am

PANDURITO

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Bad move disbelief
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Reply #4 posted 12/14/03 10:52am

sinisterpentat
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"Uh OOhh"
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Reply #5 posted 12/14/03 11:02am

Harlepolis

PANDURITO said:

Bad move disbelief


I don't think its a bad move, she was being honest about the issue and I respect her 4 that.

However, she should've tried another approach!
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Reply #6 posted 12/14/03 11:06am

PANDURITO

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Remember Sinead?

You must. You americans crucified her disbelief
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Reply #7 posted 12/14/03 11:07am

Supernova

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Somewhere Sinéad is raising her fist in salute.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #8 posted 12/14/03 11:16am

Supernova

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PANDURITO said:

Remember Sinead?

You must. You americans crucified her disbelief

You equate Hill's rhetoric above with tearing up a picture of the Pope saying "Fight the real enemy"?
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #9 posted 12/14/03 11:37am

PANDURITO

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Supernova said"
You equate Hill's rhetoric above with tearing up a picture of the Pope saying "Fight the real enemy"?


You justify America's reaction to Sinead's freedom of speech?
Or Michael Moore's ?
Or...

What's freedom then?
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Reply #10 posted 12/14/03 11:53am

Supernova

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PANDURITO said:

Supernova said"
You equate Hill's rhetoric above with tearing up a picture of the Pope saying "Fight the real enemy"?


You justify America's reaction to Sinead's freedom of speech?

hmm

1. Did I say that?

2. Do you always answer a question with a question?
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #11 posted 12/14/03 11:57am

Harlepolis

Supernova said:

PANDURITO said:

Supernova said"
You equate Hill's rhetoric above with tearing up a picture of the Pope saying "Fight the real enemy"?


You justify America's reaction to Sinead's freedom of speech?

hmm

1. Did I say that?

2. Do you always answer a question with a question?


Remember yo siggy, Nova wink
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Reply #12 posted 12/14/03 12:07pm

Supernova

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Harlepolis said:

Supernova said:

PANDURITO said:

Supernova said"
You equate Hill's rhetoric above with tearing up a picture of the Pope saying "Fight the real enemy"?


You justify America's reaction to Sinead's freedom of speech?

hmm

1. Did I say that?

2. Do you always answer a question with a question?


Remember yo siggy, Nova wink

eek
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #13 posted 12/14/03 12:09pm

Harlepolis

Supernova said:

Harlepolis said:

Supernova said:

PANDURITO said:

Supernova said"
You equate Hill's rhetoric above with tearing up a picture of the Pope saying "Fight the real enemy"?


You justify America's reaction to Sinead's freedom of speech?

hmm

1. Did I say that?

2. Do you always answer a question with a question?


Remember yo siggy, Nova wink

eek


What you fool? lol

Yo signature, man!
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Reply #14 posted 12/14/03 12:10pm

Supernova

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Harlepolis said:

Supernova said:

Harlepolis said:

Supernova said:

PANDURITO said:

Supernova said"
You equate Hill's rhetoric above with tearing up a picture of the Pope saying "Fight the real enemy"?


You justify America's reaction to Sinead's freedom of speech?

hmm

1. Did I say that?

2. Do you always answer a question with a question?


Remember yo siggy, Nova wink

eek


What you fool? lol

Yo signature, man!

I know what you meant. Man! lol
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #15 posted 12/14/03 12:12pm

Harlepolis

Supernova said:

Harlepolis said:

Supernova said:

Harlepolis said:

Supernova said:

PANDURITO said:

Supernova said"
You equate Hill's rhetoric above with tearing up a picture of the Pope saying "Fight the real enemy"?


You justify America's reaction to Sinead's freedom of speech?

hmm

1. Did I say that?

2. Do you always answer a question with a question?


Remember yo siggy, Nova wink

eek


What you fool? lol

Yo signature, man!

I know what you meant. Man! lol


Actualy, woman lol!

Aight,,,cool.
[This message was edited Sun Dec 14 12:12:50 PST 2003 by Harlepolis]
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Reply #16 posted 12/14/03 12:15pm

realm

All these artist should get on a bus with Michael Stipe and Sinead and drive off a cliff. Where have all the good times gone?
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Reply #17 posted 12/14/03 12:26pm

MD7

realm said:

All these artist should get on a bus with Michael Stipe and Sinead and drive off a cliff. Where have all the good times gone?


Dissing the pope followed by suicide isn't a good move...

demon & mad & evillol

lol
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Reply #18 posted 12/14/03 12:51pm

JohnnyTheFox

Good on her! I think her latest music is crap, but respect where respect is due.

She's the new Sinead O'Kojak.
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Reply #19 posted 12/14/03 12:58pm

EvilWhiteMale

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She made a good point.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

Al Pacino- Scarface
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Reply #20 posted 12/14/03 1:54pm

SpcMs

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She made a great point but on a bad occasion. I'm sure no one would want me to interrupt any religious or cultural happing you are having, especially when i am guest, i agreed to attend and am part of the proceedings. Sure she could've said something, but that was pretty harsh and therefore unpolite.
"It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."

My IQ is 139, what's yours?
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Reply #21 posted 12/14/03 1:59pm

VinnyM27

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Harlepolis said:

PANDURITO said:

Bad move disbelief


I don't think its a bad move, she was being honest about the issue and I respect her 4 that.

However, she should've tried another approach!



I think what she did is cool and had very good timing. Unfornately for Sinead, she pretty much did the same thing (ok,it was a little more harsh and seen by more people) but nobody really knew what she was talking about. Now that this issue is big, people now that Lauryn is making a good point. And if anything, i don't think that she really cares what happens with her career anymore. If she did. "The Miseducation Too" would have been out years ago.
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Reply #22 posted 12/14/03 2:47pm

baXtos

lauryn is music's biggest loss.
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Reply #23 posted 12/14/03 2:50pm

Abrazo

At first I thought this thread was about Hill dissing the song 'Pope'. I would have wholeheartedly agreed with that...lol...
I do not think that making these kind of comments on such an occasion are a wise thing to do.
You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security.
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Reply #24 posted 12/14/03 2:54pm

VoicesCarry

Dear Lauryn,

You make a good point. Now can you make some new music? Otherwise, I might stop listening...

From: All fans
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Reply #25 posted 12/14/03 3:00pm

okaypimpn

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VoicesCarry said:

Dear Lauryn,

You make a good point. Now can you make some new music? Otherwise, I might stop listening...

From: All fans


Thank you. clapping

I hate to say it, but this b!@#h is crazy. whofarted
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Reply #26 posted 12/14/03 6:15pm

JohnnyTheFox

okaypimpn said:

VoicesCarry said:

Dear Lauryn,

You make a good point. Now can you make some new music? Otherwise, I might stop listening...

From: All fans


Thank you. clapping

I hate to say it, but this b!@#h is crazy. whofarted



I don't think she's crazy. What she suffers from is far worse - self-importance.
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Reply #27 posted 12/14/03 7:28pm

marcdeondotcom

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"Uh OOhh"


falloff

Damn, I got to give it to her. It's not like she was in NBC studios talking shit. She took it to the stage and their stage on top of that.

Mad Props
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Reply #28 posted 12/14/03 9:05pm

Janfriend

I think she was right in what she said...maybe because I'm from a protestant faith, I don't understand the basis or need for a pope
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Reply #29 posted 12/15/03 12:43am

DavidEye

VoicesCarry said:

Dear Lauryn,

You make a good point. Now can you make some new music? Otherwise, I might stop listening...

From: All fans


nod nod nod nod


I love Lauryn Hill,but I've already worn out my copy of 'Miseducation'.If she doesn't give us some new music soon,I'm gonna lose interest.
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