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MADONNA..is to good music what mcdonald's is to good food!!! madonna will do anything to stay in the media circus..she is to the music what mcdonald's is to good healthy food..commercialisation at its very worsed.
... ... she would sell her soul for a number one record and tries to jump on every musicial bandwagon that comes along to try and stay hip. at least in the eighties she was bearable and reasonably atractive but now she is a dried-up old singer who is going to be a sad old woman when the media circus drops her because her tits are at her ankles. ... ... time to grow up madonna. | |
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Why is it that everyone needs to call madonna old?
She is not old, she's still one music's greatest performers...she has definitely built an extroadinary career...with hits and great stage shows... she's 45 and so is Prince and Micheal...but so happen she's still commercially viable...Prince is indie and Micheal is gone koo koo. I think we really need to leave Maddy alone and allow her to do her thang! She is still beautiful as ever with age...she's still got the moves, and she's breaking new ground in writing childrens books and who cares if she isn't as huge a pop artist on the charts at this time...she still is very much MADONNA! | |
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NPD313 said: Prince is indie...
im sorry...dont know what i think thats funny...i just dont buy the indie label with him...expecially since he seems to hunt down label contracts quicker then mj gets a new nose... Space for sale... | |
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I agree. Madonna is nothing but a fillet O fish!! All the gals say hoe if your man's giving up the gold. All the fellas say ruff if you're only giving up the bone. | |
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 This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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whateva, treva.
the "madonna is old" thing is older than madonna. why she is considered old is beyond me. nobody calls prince old. nobody calls cyndi lauper old. nobody calls chaka khan old. nobody calls david bowie old. the list can go on and on. she still looks great (if we are going to judge by superficial standards) and she is in better health than most of us who are sitting here on our asses, typing onto the org. her music is still, at worst, some of the best pop available. even 'music', which i really did not like, was better than a lot of what i heard on the radio during the same time period. as for the mcdonald's analogy (actually, that's kinda funny)...regardless of anyone accepting it or not, madonna has changed the face of women in music. i'm not saying she created new sounds. instead, she recognized what she wants and the fact that she needs people to help her produce that sound successfully. if you can name one woman who has had more of an impact on pop culture or music history, please, hip me to her. other than ani difranco and natalie merchant, i can't even think of another woman who has her own label. even cher, whose been around since the middle-ages (j/k), hasn't had the impact m has had. if madonna is mcdonald's, "i'm lovin' it!" | |
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mcdonald's is delicious.  | |
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: whateva, treva.
the "madonna is old" thing is older than madonna. why she is considered old is beyond me. nobody calls prince old. nobody calls cyndi lauper old. nobody calls chaka khan old. nobody calls david bowie old. the list can go on and on. she still looks great (if we are going to judge by superficial standards) and she is in better health than most of us who are sitting here on our asses, typing onto the org. her music is still, at worst, some of the best pop available. even 'music', which i really did not like, was better than a lot of what i heard on the radio during the same time period. as for the mcdonald's analogy (actually, that's kinda funny)...regardless of anyone accepting it or not, madonna has changed the face of women in music. i'm not saying she created new sounds. instead, she recognized what she wants and the fact that she needs people to help her produce that sound successfully. if you can name one woman who has had more of an impact on pop culture or music history, please, hip me to her. other than ani difranco and natalie merchant, i can't even think of another woman who has her own label. even cher, whose been around since the middle-ages (j/k), hasn't had the impact m has had. if madonna is mcdonald's, "i'm lovin' it!"  | |
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: whateva, treva.
the "madonna is old" thing is older than madonna. why she is considered old is beyond me. nobody calls prince old. nobody calls cyndi lauper old. nobody calls chaka khan old. nobody calls david bowie old. the list can go on and on. she still looks great (if we are going to judge by superficial standards) and she is in better health than most of us who are sitting here on our asses, typing onto the org. her music is still, at worst, some of the best pop available. even 'music', which i really did not like, was better than a lot of what i heard on the radio during the same time period. as for the mcdonald's analogy (actually, that's kinda funny)...regardless of anyone accepting it or not, madonna has changed the face of women in music. i'm not saying she created new sounds. instead, she recognized what she wants and the fact that she needs people to help her produce that sound successfully. if you can name one woman who has had more of an impact on pop culture or music history, please, hip me to her. other than ani difranco and natalie merchant, i can't even think of another woman who has her own label. even cher, whose been around since the middle-ages (j/k), hasn't had the impact m has had. if madonna is mcdonald's, "i'm lovin' it!" this guy is going to be the most KICK ASS Lawyer. I LOVE YOU JBS! [This message was edited Mon Dec 1 18:52:56 PST 2003 by purplegypsy] Let the rain come down...17 days.... | |
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mcdonald's is a guilty pleasure.
. [This message was edited Mon Dec 1 18:53:37 PST 2003 by mrdespues] | |
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purplegypsy said: imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: whateva, treva.
the "madonna is old" thing is older than madonna. why she is considered old is beyond me. nobody calls prince old. nobody calls cyndi lauper old. nobody calls chaka khan old. nobody calls david bowie old. the list can go on and on. she still looks great (if we are going to judge by superficial standards) and she is in better health than most of us who are sitting here on our asses, typing onto the org. her music is still, at worst, some of the best pop available. even 'music', which i really did not like, was better than a lot of what i heard on the radio during the same time period. as for the mcdonald's analogy (actually, that's kinda funny)...regardless of anyone accepting it or not, madonna has changed the face of women in music. i'm not saying she created new sounds. instead, she recognized what she wants and the fact that she needs people to help her produce that sound successfully. if you can name one woman who has had more of an impact on pop culture or music history, please, hip me to her. other than ani difranco and natalie merchant, i can't even think of another woman who has her own label. even cher, whose been around since the middle-ages (j/k), hasn't had the impact m has had. if madonna is mcdonald's, "i'm lovin' it!" this guy is going to be the most KICK ASS Lawyer. I LOVE YOU JBS! [This message was edited Mon Dec 1 18:52:56 PST 2003 by purplegypsy] and once my foot is in the door, JayNay Productions is just a step away! | |
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are we supposed to take someone with Billy Joel listed as a favorite artist in his profile seriously on the subject of "good music"???  | |
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: purplegypsy said: imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: whateva, treva.
the "madonna is old" thing is older than madonna. why she is considered old is beyond me. nobody calls prince old. nobody calls cyndi lauper old. nobody calls chaka khan old. nobody calls david bowie old. the list can go on and on. she still looks great (if we are going to judge by superficial standards) and she is in better health than most of us who are sitting here on our asses, typing onto the org. her music is still, at worst, some of the best pop available. even 'music', which i really did not like, was better than a lot of what i heard on the radio during the same time period. as for the mcdonald's analogy (actually, that's kinda funny)...regardless of anyone accepting it or not, madonna has changed the face of women in music. i'm not saying she created new sounds. instead, she recognized what she wants and the fact that she needs people to help her produce that sound successfully. if you can name one woman who has had more of an impact on pop culture or music history, please, hip me to her. other than ani difranco and natalie merchant, i can't even think of another woman who has her own label. even cher, whose been around since the middle-ages (j/k), hasn't had the impact m has had. if madonna is mcdonald's, "i'm lovin' it!" this guy is going to be the most KICK ASS Lawyer. I LOVE YOU JBS! [This message was edited Mon Dec 1 18:52:56 PST 2003 by purplegypsy] and once my foot is in the door, JayNay Productions is just a step away! Madonna is old. Prince, he old too. Stevie Nicks got old, but you don't see her rapping and performing with the flavor of the month and shit. Well. She DID appear in that Destiny's Beyonce vid, but, that's cuz they lifted her guitar lick. But what I'm saying is DAMN HO, AGE GRACEFULLY! The Last Otan Track: www.funkmusician.com/what.mp3 | |
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otan said: But what I'm saying is DAMN HO, AGE GRACEFULLY! that is subjective. what isn't subjective is her accomplishments and successes in the business. that's what this thread was about. | |
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Hmm.. would I take a quarter pounder with cheese or Madonna's latest album. I'd have to go with the quarter pounder. | |
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My opinion of Madonna is this:
She is a one-time great who is now quite sad. Her last good album was "Ray of Light", which came out in '97, ever since then, well, she's been a lost cause. Then again, Madonna has been a media-whore from the get-go, why do you think she's so hot now? Because of her singing ability? Please! That's the reason why everyone (except teenage girls and young guys) hated her when she first came out. They finally got off her back when they discovered she could make enjoyable music. As far as influencing today's females, yeah, she has, that's why you see everyone dressed like a hooker. Madonna gets what she wants by kissing ass and screwing people over. She's a great buisness woman and give her mad props for that, she can make enjoyable music, I own and like everything upto "music" Now in her 40s, she has to put out childrens books and hook up with britney, to stay relevent she has to be "hot" with today's youth. She was a one-time great who is now sucking up to stay popular, IMHO. Now as far as the superficial stuff goes, she's not old, since when is '45' old? Now as far as her looks go, I have NEVER thought she was pretty, and guys back then mostly liked her because of what was going on underneath her neck, now that she's older she needs to cover up, therefore she's lost that appeal. I don't buy into that Madonna's not pretty anymore, cause quite honestly she never has been, IMHO. And I know A LOT of people who love "Mc Donalds", so she'll be around for quite ahwile, "tragic but true". ~KiKi | |
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 I'm shining my shoes right now.It looks like I'm gonna have to do a little ass-kicking on this thread.
First of all,why do people make such a big deal about Madonna's age? She's 45,what's wrong with that? I think she looks great for her age.Blackboab,that is a cheap shot to diss the way she looks,as if that's the only thing that matters.I challenge you to post YOUR picture here,so we can all judge who's better looking...lol.And to those of you who insist that she's just "chasing trends" to stay relevent...there is nothing trendy about her latest CD 'American Life'.It's a decidedly NON-COMMERCIAL album with very personal,introspective lyrics.In other words,it's not the kinda stuff that the young acts (Britney,J-Lo) would make.And notably,it was produced by Mirwais,who is not exactly the "trendy" producer of the moment.If staying relevent was her main goal,wouldn't she have just called up The Neptunes,R Kelly,and all the other "hot" producers and make a simple by-the-numbers dance album? And why do people give her shit for occasionally working with younger acts? Madonna is a record company CEO.To a certain extent,she HAS to keep her eye on what's hot at the moment! She listens to stuff like Eminem,50 Cent,Britney and Missy Elliot,so what's wrong with her working with people that she admires? Just because she's 45 doesn't mean that she has to turn into a conservative,boring prude,singing adult contemporary crap like Celine Dion (her cousin,by the way).She likes rap,pop and dance music. "Her last good album was Ray Of Light"  that is such a tired cliche,taking an artists' masterpiece and insisting that it was their last great work.That's like the critics who continually say that 'SOTT' was Prince's last great album | |
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Celine is Madonna's cousin?
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I hate it when people diss McDonald's! | |
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TRON said: Celine is Madonna's cousin?
Yep,they are distant cousins.Amazing,huh? | |
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TRON said: Celine is Madonna's cousin?
Yeah, you better explain that to us David. Gwen Stefani was also trying to say that she was releated to Madonna in a interivew a few years back. I don't buy it. | |
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VinnyM27 said: TRON said: Celine is Madonna's cousin?
Yeah, you better explain that to us David. Gwen Stefani was also trying to say that she was releated to Madonna in a interivew a few years back. I don't buy it. I can't believe you guys never heard about this.It was a big story a few years ago...lol This is confusing,but Madonna and Celine Dion have the same two grandparents 12 generations back,making them distant cousins.I don't know how they both feel about each other,but I doubt they'll be collaborating anytime soon...lol | |
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btw,did you know that Donna Summer and Bobby Brown are also distant cousins? Donna mentions it in her book. | |
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DavidEye said: This is confusing,but Madonna and Celine Dion have the same two grandparents 12 generations back,making them distant cousins.
Don't we all? | |
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DavidEye said: I don't know how they both feel about each other,but I doubt they'll be collaborating anytime soon...lol
I do. Madonna has said that she can't stand Celine. She's ripped on her father many times for listing Celine as his favorite artist. That's gotta hurt when Madonna's your daughter. Seems like the choice should be obvious. | |
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TRON said: DavidEye said: I don't know how they both feel about each other,but I doubt they'll be collaborating anytime soon...lol
I do. Madonna has said that she can't stand Celine. She's ripped on her father many times for listing Celine as his favorite artist. That's gotta hurt when Madonna's your daughter. Seems like the choice should be obvious. Maddy's father lists Celine as his "favorite artist"?? LOL | |
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: whateva, treva.
the "madonna is old" thing is older than madonna. why she is considered old is beyond me. nobody calls prince old. nobody calls cyndi lauper old. nobody calls chaka khan old. nobody calls david bowie old. I agree with you, but being a Libra, I think this Britney thing is what is getting people all worked up. I didn't like their "collaboration" and can't figure out why she did it. Maybe they are just friends and wanted to do something together. But it can appear to non-fans as something else. the list can go on and on. she still looks great (if we are going to judge by superficial standards) and she is in better health than most of us who are sitting here on our asses, typing onto the org.
Very true. her music is still, at worst, some of the best pop available. even 'music', which i really did not like, was better than a lot of what i heard on the radio during the same time period.
Exactly. She's always got a new sound. Weather its stealing trends from underground or overseas, she puts out different music than whats on US pop radio at the moment. I LOVED Music and American Life. she recognized what she wants and the fact that she needs people to help her produce that sound successfully.
 I wish I could do that too.
if you can name one woman who has had more of an impact on pop culture or music history, please, hip me to her.
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said: whateva, treva.
the "madonna is old" thing is older than madonna. why she is considered old is beyond me. nobody calls prince old. nobody calls cyndi lauper old. nobody calls chaka khan old. nobody calls david bowie old. the list can go on and on. she still looks great (if we are going to judge by superficial standards) and she is in better health than most of us who are sitting here on our asses, typing onto the org. her music is still, at worst, some of the best pop available. even 'music', which i really did not like, was better than a lot of what i heard on the radio during the same time period. as for the mcdonald's analogy (actually, that's kinda funny)...regardless of anyone accepting it or not, madonna has changed the face of women in music. i'm not saying she created new sounds. instead, she recognized what she wants and the fact that she needs people to help her produce that sound successfully. if you can name one woman who has had more of an impact on pop culture or music history, please, hip me to her. other than ani difranco and natalie merchant, i can't even think of another woman who has her own label. even cher, whose been around since the middle-ages (j/k), hasn't had the impact m has had. if madonna is mcdonald's, "i'm lovin' it!" I don't really give two strokes and a pump about Madonna, but I agree with everything you said. Women get labelled old all the time. | |
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otan said: But what I'm saying is DAMN HO, AGE GRACEFULLY!
Oh come on! I know you like checking out Christina Aguilera's skanky ass... If you think Christina is gonna age gracefully, think again. Not if she keeps going in the direction she's going. Shoot, I'm just glad that both Madonna and Christina have SOME talent. It's better than other "artists" who's only accomplishement is tricking you into thinking they sound good or have any creative skill. | |
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