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Reply #30 posted 11/26/03 3:33pm

danielboon

good on ya guy's its great 2 c u right in2 the duranies !

but werent they a wee girls band ...boy band even !
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Reply #31 posted 11/26/03 3:42pm

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danielboon said:

good on ya guy's its great 2 c u right in2 the duranies !

but werent they a wee girls band ...boy band even !


Well they were boys in a band...

They wrote their music and played their instruments. They cared about being creative and innovative. I'm going to find a really cool post that Jedimaster did a while back. He's soooo eloquent.

From this thread:

http://www.prince.org/msg...msg_207117

To anyone who says that Duran Duran had no musical skills, or that they weren't influencial, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about! There seems to be this mistaken idea that since Duran were popular for a couple of years with teenage girls, that all they were was the 80s equivilant of NSYNC. Not so. Duran came out of the London underground New Romantic movement. The pretty-boy look they cultivated was a direct result of the New Romantic's backlash against the grunginess of Punk. Duran was at the forefront of this scene, so it was quite natural that they would eventually get signed to a major label (they formed in 1979, but their first album did not hit until 1981).

Duran acheived prominence with their second album, Rio, in 1982. It was through their use of video as a medium that they gained recognition. While Michael Jackson often gets credit for being the video pioneer, Duran paved the way. Without Hungry Like The Wolf, Rio, and Save A Prayer, there would never have been a Thriller video. Duran Duran took this new medium, and expanded it into the concept of of them being mini-movies. The visually stunning videos, coupled with the band's New Romantic looks, made them overnight sensations with teenage girls. Unfortunately, it made many people ignore the fact that these boys were putting out incredible music.

The first three Duran Duran records were chock-full of smart, edgy dance tunes. Duran effortlessly blended Rock, pop, new wave, glam and funk. It wasn't until their popularity started to fade, that many true music lovers began to take them seriously. 1986's Notorious was a groundbreaking album, much in the same veign as Prince's Parade from the same year. The Nile Rodger's produced album brought the horn section to the forefront, mixing Sly-inspired funk with Duran's own new wave sensiblilities. I dare anyone to find an album from this time period, aside from the aforementioned Prince disc, with as diverse a mix of styles that blend into such a cohesive whole.

This was also the beginning of Duran's most musically innovative period. Former Zappa/ Missing Persons guitarist Warren Cuccurullo joined up, adding his blistering axe skills to the mix. While albums like Big Thing and Liberty failed to gain commercial success, they did contain some great music. Ultimately, these discs paved the way for The Wedding Album, their surprise comeback. With incredible tunes like Ordinary World, Come Undone, Too Much Information, UMF and Breath After Breath, Duran made a major impact during a time period when grunge ruled the airwaves.

Duran Duran have continued to kick out incredible music in the past decade. While Medazzaland and Pop Trash were not huge hits, they were still better than most of the albums released in the same time period. One critic noted, in a review of the latter CD, that the song Hallucinating Elvis sounded like something written by a band in their twenties. He went on to state that if radio programmers didn't know the song was by Duran Duran, they would probably put it into heavy rotation.

Duran Duran remain seriously under-rated, but their influence is unmistakeable. I truly hope that the soon to be released reunion album puts them in the spotlight long enough for critics, and the general public, to go back and re-evluate their old discs. They will find fantastic music, with amazing lyrics. True pioneers of their day, no doubt about it!



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Reply #32 posted 11/26/03 4:54pm

danielboon

i do appreciate u guy's like em, i do !!!

i saw em live as i said ...they wer very very good !

just not my cup o tea ..and yes they were a girly band 4 a couple o years , i kno they played there own instuments wrote there own songs etc etc , they did evolve away from the girly scene ...as i already said not my cup o tea !!!

enjoi the return of duran,duran
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Reply #33 posted 11/26/03 4:55pm

danielboon

i do appreciate u guy's like em, i do !!!

i saw em live as i said ...they wer very very good !

just not my cup o tea ..and yes they were a girly band 4 a couple o years , i kno they played there own instuments wrote there own songs etc etc , they did evolve away from the girly scene ...as i already said not my cup o tea !!!

enjoi the return of duran,duran
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Reply #34 posted 11/27/03 7:43pm

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VinaBlue said:

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VinaBlue said:

Roger is one of the best drummers, on par with Stewart Copeland.

hmmm

That goes a little too far. I wouldn't call him a 'good' drummer. I'd rather compare him with Charlie Watts: the wrong drummer in the right band.

This is not to say that Duran Duran are not greater than the Stones and the Beatles, or that JT and Johnny Depp are not the reasons why one could call me bisexual.

Oh, and the org should rather be a Duran Duran fan site, since they are way more happening than Prince.



Well, from my point of view, Roger added a LOT to the musical soundscape of Duran Duran. If you listen and watch him, you'll see a similarity. Roger once said he tries his best to "hit as many drums as possible", yet his playing is melodic in a way. I don't think I'm going too far. I hold both drummer with high respect. As far as I know, Watts didn't do a whole lot of embelishing, but I'm not a Stones fan so I can't say for certain. I didn't compare Roger to John Densmore, that would be pushing it.

Roger is a Drum God. Trust me. If you can't even call him a good drummer, you're not listening to his playing. And I don't mean just the singles either. You gotta see him in action. I got videos...

Wait a minute, are you talking about Stewart or Roger? We'll either way, I disagree. They are both great musicians and did more than drummers do in pop music today. It's all programing now. Actually Matt Chamberlain and Wil Calhoun are great, but that's not considered pop music. Back in 83, Duran and the Police were pop, or at least pop/rock.

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I think I agree with most things you are saying about Roger, in terms of musicality, patterns, and especially the good influence he has on the band's sound. That's what I meant with the 'wrong drummer in the right band'.

I mean, it's better to have him in Duran Duran than the far better drummers that came after him, if you know what I mean.

But a 'good' drummer in my p.o.v. has this tight, powerful feel like John Blackwell. Not that wobbly, intelligent, acrobatic, british interpretation of Latin percussion patterns over a click track.
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Reply #35 posted 11/28/03 7:46am

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LillianLaughs said:


I think I agree with most things you are saying about Roger, in terms of musicality, patterns, and especially the good influence he has on the band's sound. That's what I meant with the 'wrong drummer in the right band'.

I mean, it's better to have him in Duran Duran than the far better drummers that came after him, if you know what I mean.

But a 'good' drummer in my p.o.v. has this tight, powerful feel like John Blackwell. Not that wobbly, intelligent, acrobatic, british interpretation of Latin percussion patterns over a click track.



I guess it's just personal taste then. John Blackwell is cool, but too much power drumming, I think it overpowers the music, kinda like guitar solos take over sometimes. I guess I see what you are saying, John Blackwell wouldn't fit in Duran. There has to be the right synergy between the band members. I really dig Wil Calhoun of Living Colour, but he wouldn't fit in Duran Duran either. It's the style of the music that makes a difference, I guess.

Wobbly, intelligent, acrobatic, british interpretation of Latin percussion patterns over a click track? That's a mouthful! (Re: Roger and Stewart) Well, I wouldn't call it wobbly, they were pretty tight, in the groove and on time. I like things that sound like they took some thought so "intelligent" sounds good. Acrobatic? Well, yes, but it's not overdone. I think the accents add to the music, respond to it, rather than distract from it. Click tracks, hmmm. Maybe in some songs they had Linn programming to play with.
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Reply #36 posted 11/28/03 6:07pm

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The new song sound good. Will be great when the new cd is finally out. I think they are carried away with the price for the preparty, ya think they would do a soundcheck and chat with everyone instead of fiddlin around and only meeting a few fans. The music club they have could also use some more exclusives, pics are cool but how about some mp3s?! I'm a member and have email them about this, I guess time will tell. It's been great to see them live over the years!
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