Anyone else looking forward to this release? Im so very glad their stuff is still getting released. This is will really complete the Let It Be sessions for me. This disk is supposed to have digital remastering and there will be no edits to songs, no adding of any sort. Just the Beatles doing what they did best, playin music. It really can be considered a "live" cd so to speak, but in the studio. The review I read said "dont let me down" is replacing maggie may and I think another may be added. It is also said an extra disk of studio stuff will be included on an extra disk, lets hope thats true:) I also hope that the front cover is remade. This is what Im lookin forward to in november:)!!!

the release of this is both good and bad.


on the one hand, it's coming out without all the overdubs. which is what is the most criticized aspect of the album.

on the other hand, Phil Spector didn't fuck with the material as much as people have made it out. The Long And Winding Road and a couple of others are really the only ones that got heavy-handed treatment. also, even though fans and critics have been saying for years that they want this to come out, there's going to be a certain ficklness when it finally does. they may think they want it, but there's going to be a very large number of Beatles fans who'll bitch about it, simply because it's different than the version that they've had ingrained into their subconscious for over 30 years.

I think any way and any how that we can have The Beatles releasing stuff into the maelstrom is cool as. They never give bad value, even now.
Plus I actually met a young kid who had bought the 1 LP in 2001 because he genuinely thought The Beatles were a NEW band. That was a cosmic encounter.

AaronMaximus said:

dag, paul mccartney is always finding ways to make a buck, isn't he? well, my mom is excited.

Yeah, and just imagine how rich Paul McCartney would be if Michael Jackson didn't own the Beatles' music...

jtgillia said:

that whole situation is nothing but horseshit. paul is only salty about that because michael made the cash before he did. paul tried to play the whole "oh man, yeah its business, but its also friendship and morals" blah, blah, blah. he bitches that 'revolution' was used for a sneaker commercial but boy did he milk the hell out of the anthology series (book, programming, videos, cds). he gets no sympathy from me. i would have a lot more respect for him if he had just been honest and come out publicly saying "hey, thats my music that michael is getting rich off of. if anyone should get money for it it should be me." but no, he played it like he would never bastardize the beatles name. which, in the end, i think he did. he made the beatles the biggest musical commodity.

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[This message was edited Sun Oct 12 14:07:02 PDT 2003 by imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty]

I mostly agree with you, but that doesn't negate the point I made...

If he still owned the Beatles masters, he would probably be the richest mofo on the planet.

jtgillia said:

hahaha...sorry, i tend to go off on tangents, don't i...yeah, he would be. isn't he already? lol

jtgillia said:

it's not the masters he was after.

He didn't want to pay anything for them. He COULD have bought them for $17 million before Michael did. He wanted McCartney-Lennon as credits on his live album instead of Lennon-McCartney. Shows how pedantic he was being about the songwriting issue. Anybody who's paying any kind of attention to their music knows who wrote what. Michael made probably the best business decision of his life when he bought their publishing, but it did cost him $54 million.

there is a REASON Phil Spector had to tinker so much with the recordings to make a legitimate album... there wasn't much to work with. The material was very raw and flawed and not in any way complete.

The Long and Winding Road was a run-through that was shoddy at best. John Lennon played bass on it (badly). Phill put the strings on it to cover up the obvious problems with the recording.

I Me Mine was only about 1:34 in it's original form... all Phil did was re-edit it so that there was a repeat to make it a bit longer, and added a orchestra part that makes it sounds like an actually finished song...

The rest of the album is largely untouched by Spector.

One after 909, Get Back and Dig a Pony come from the rooftop concert. So was Don't Let Me Down, but it was left off presumably because John fucked up the lyrics so bad. I assume it will be this version that ends up on Let it Be... Naked.

Two of Us, I've Got A Feeling and For You Blue were live instudio recordings - - and very ragged ones at that.

Across the Universe was a much older song that was tacked onto the album basically as filler. As was Dig It, which is no more than a snippet of a long bluesy jam. Maggie Mae was a bit of horsing around in the studio.

The song Let it Be is an alternate to the earlier single version.

Phil Spector has always been reviled unfairly for this treatment of this album, in my opinion. He sequenced together alot of demos and substandard material into somewhat of a semblance of an album.

This nonsense that Let it Be... Naked will be how the Beatles "originally intended" the album is nonsense in my opinion... unless they "originally intended" to have a rough demo of the Long and Winding Road to be released as finished product. Yes they wanted a "live" approach, but the project was never finished and the songs never recorded in definitive fashion. Therefore, how can Let it Be... Naked be the way it was "originally intended"??

Don't get me wrong, it will be glad to have this stuff remastered and with hopefully some neat studio stuff on the 2nd disc, but in all honesty I've always thought this bashing of Phil Spector a little disingenous. The Beatles dropped the whole mess of tapes in the lap of Glyn Johns originally, and he couldn't untangle it all into the form of a coherent album... all in all i think Spector did an admirable job, given the material he had to work with. It's only Paul's arrogance that led to all of this backlash against Phil. If Paul had wanted this material to come out at the time the way it was "intended" it would have been easy for him to do so... but he was too embroiled in his solo album and for the bitter legal wrangling that the Beatles had descended into by this time.

Let it Be... Naked... i will definitely buy it, but the spin that this release is being given is a little amusing when you look back at the history of this project.







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mynameisnotsusan said:

actually, he wanted to get Yoko to change the ones that he wrote himself, or the ones he wrote the majority of, because there's a technicality about whose name comes first with controlling how they are used. she was actually being pedantic about it, not letting him get first billing on the ones he wrote. she wouldn't have made less money, it would have just given him certain priveleges with his own songs.

well, thats what he gets for treating yoko like an idiot for those years. karma will always come back and bite yo9u in the ass. had he just been cool with her and had a little respect for someone different than himself he may have got what he wanted from her.
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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

yes, but Yoko IS an idiot.

AaronMaximus said:

lol! nah, she's the mother of new wave!

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

Prince is the fater of neo-soul, and he's an idiot too

AaronMaximus said:

poor princey...lol

maybe he and yoko will cut some kinda funky, new wave sounding record and topple the music industry!

hehehe

I learned alot from this thread...thanks guys..

sosgemini said:

me too

I'm still keeping the great "Get Back" bootleg I have.

What I really want is The Beach Boys's "Smile".