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NAME WHO U FEEL ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ARTISTS THAT HAVE HELPED 2 SHAPE OUR PRESENT I'd cite:
(In no particular order of importance) The Rolling Stones (sorry, they gotta be at the top of my list even though I said there was no order of importance, as Brian Jones grew up not 5mins from where I live...) 
David Bowie Grace Jones Led Zeppelin The Beatles Kylie SeX Pistols The Police Blondie Black Sabbath Queen Depeche Mode Fleetwood Mac Elton John Bjork The Ramones Bruce Springsteen Madonna Elvis Peter Gabriel Michael Jackson Nine Inch Nails AbbA StepS* U2 ...oh, and lest i 4get: a skinny mutha-fucker with a high voice 
Im sure there are loads more - but bear in mind that this ISN'T a list of whom YOU like, it is whom YOU consider important in having shaped the direction music has taken over the last couple of decades because of them bringing something different or unique 2 the table... *THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE BY THE WAY!!!* | |
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Most important artists that have helped shape our present:
2pac His music is still felt to this day and manages to sell millions. Hundreds of emcees and potential emcees emulate his style on a regular basis. Tupac's an influential figure not only in rap, but in popular music. Biggie Smalls Thanks to him, rap took a turn from being obsessively gangsta (a la NWA, Snoop Dogg) in the mid-90s to a more money-glorified materialism. Versace and the ilk reap major rewards from Biggie's decidely pretentious flows. Jackson 5 The first major "boy band." Thanks to this 5ivesome started by father/manager Joe Jackson, kids were in the hot seat making hits and breaking hearts. Girls everywhere clamored for a chance to be down with the handsome sextet, in turn, buying albums, watching cartoon shows and even fantasizing about them in teen beat publications. They set the stage for what would soon be New Edition, The Boys, New Kids on the Block, Backstreet, NSYNC, etc. Geto Boys One of the first major hip hop outfits (along with Arrested Development) to have a distinctively southern voice. Laced in the dialect of dixie, these country boys spit out their own delectable version of hip hop, fried, smothered and sauteed. They helped shape the "southern/country" style of unapologetically southern rappers like 3-6 Mafia, Outkast, Dungeon Family, Cash Money & No Limit, etc.) Lil Kim Sexy is now classy. Lil Kim originated the porno-femme chic style in rap music. Before Kim, female emcees tried their best to just be one of the guys. But after the "Madonna of Rap" appeared on the scene, emcees acted more like ladies with a more feminine/erotic aire expressing their sexuality and domineering qualities (e.g. Trina, Khia, Mercedes, Mona Damone, etc.) Janet Jackson Looking for outrageous, broadway style dance numbers in your videos? How about drill team style dancers with elaborate choreographers. It's a must for any pop-star-hopeful nowadays and Janet is one of the originators of the broadway/drill team style dancing in videos. Videos like "When I Think of You," "Pleasure Principle" and "Rhythm Nation" helped to define this style which can be seen in the videos of artists like Brtiney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Jennifer Lopez, Ashanti, etc. Michael Jackson The greatest entertainer of all time. A living legend. He helped redefine pop music in the MTV generation with his spectacular videos like Thriller, Beat It and Billie Jean. He is one of the first artists to actually care about a video's thematic and conceptual elements and spend time making it out to be like little movies or "short films" as they are now called thanks to this man. You can see his influence in EVERY artists videos.v Plus his dance moves CONTINUE to be jocked by many artists (Justin Timberlake, Usher, Ginuwine, Destiny's Child, etc.) Madonna Madonna show the true meanings of calculation and redefinition. Madonna takes staying on top and in the media spotlight seriously and she knows the right buttons to push. She is one of the major players in the game of controversy. There's an old saying that goes "any publicity is good publicity" and Madonna can sure Amen to that. Because of her strides we can see individuals like Eminem shock us. Eminem Before Eminem, if you were white in hip hop chances are you wouldn't go to far without being laughed at. The only credible white emcees at the time were The Beastie Boys, House of Pain and 3rd Bass. Vanilla Ice sullied the reps of white emcees everywhere after his early 90s pop debauchery. Enter Eminem, a new voice with his own style. No he is not trying to be down with the homeboys rather he attempts to carve his own niche in the rap game with his own unique(ly shocking) raps. He's influenced countless clones. Dr. Dre Nowadays you can't name a hit without naming the hits producers. Dr. Dre helped make a producer the sole driving force in urban mainstream music. Thanks to his run with NWA, Eminem and others, Dr. Dre made the producer a vital necessity for any artist vying for mainstream crossover hit status. Later would enter such major hip hop players such as Missy Elliot, Timbaland and the ever-ubiquitous Neptunes. Puff Daddy Thanks to Mr. P, artists can sample to their hearts content and not have to worry about being unoriginal or unartistic. Puffy helped make it acceptable to rip off old music and "recycle" it into new, updated hits. Artists like J.Lo and others benefit from his footsteps. Will Smith Looking for the rapper/actor? They're everywhere in Hollywood and thanks to individuals like Will Smith rappers in search of other artistic avenues can turn to big screen for prolonged success. Will Smith was the first rapper to have a sitcom which later turned into movie roles and top box office success. Many rappers nowadays owe thanks to him. Run DMC You can't speak of urban crossover without meaning the kings of mainstream urban success Run DMC. Before Run DMC, hip hop and rap were relegated to specifically black stations with R&B formats. Once Run DMC hit, they began to change the face of black music, adding a touch of hip hop. When "Walk This Way" premiered it showcased Run DMC as major MTV heavyweights and helped formed the alliance of rock and rap which has influenced countless groups (Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, etc.) [This message was edited Thu Jun 26 9:59:15 PDT 2003 by JANFAN4L] | |
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Janet? eheh
no no way.. | |
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7salles said: Janet? eheh
no no way.. Alright, alright ::yoga-like calmness:: You'd best be lucky I've turned over a new leaf because I would've sho' let you have it. [This message was edited Thu Jun 26 10:03:16 PDT 2003 by JANFAN4L] | |
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Heres my list, but in no particular order, chronological or otherwise!!
Prince Stevie Nicks Michael Hutchence The Moody Blues David Bowie Lenny Kravitz Jimi Hendrix Jim Morrison Pink Floyd The Rolling Stones ( a freind of my mothers is Bill Wymans sister!! Thats in case u are interested Bananacologne!!) Alice Cooper Peter Gabriel Oh theres so many!!!  | |
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Rock:
Beatles Stones Elvis Dylan Hendrix R&B/Blues: George Clinton B.B. King Michael Jackson Aretha Franklin | |
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JANFAN4L said: Most important artists that have helped shape our present:
2pac His music is still felt to this day and manages to sell millions. Hundreds of emcees and potential emcees emulate his style on a regular basis. Tupac's an influential figure not only in rap, but in popular music. Biggie Smalls Thanks to him, rap took a turn from being obsessively gangsta (a la NWA, Snoop Dogg) in the mid-90s to a more money-glorified materialism. Versace and the ilk reap major rewards from Biggie's decidely pretentious flows. Jackson 5 The first major "boy band." Thanks to this 5ivesome started by father/manager Joe Jackson, kids were in the hot seat making hits and breaking hearts. Girls everywhere clamored for a chance to be down with the handsome sextet, in turn, buying albums, watching cartoon shows and even fantasizing about them in teen beat publications. They set the stage for what would soon be New Edition, The Boys, New Kids on the Block, Backstreet, NSYNC, etc. Geto Boys One of the first major hip hop outfits (along with Arrested Development) to have a distinctively southern voice. Laced in the dialect of dixie, these country boys spit out their own delectable version of hip hop, fried, smothered and sauteed. They helped shape the "southern/country" style of unapologetically southern rappers like 3-6 Mafia, Outkast, Dungeon Family, Cash Money & No Limit, etc.) Lil Kim Sexy is now classy. Lil Kim originated the porno-femme chic style in rap music. Before Kim, female emcees tried their best to just be one of the guys. But after the "Madonna of Rap" appeared on the scene, emcees acted more like ladies with a more feminine/erotic aire expressing their sexuality and domineering qualities (e.g. Trina, Khia, Mercedes, Mona Damone, etc.) Janet Jackson Looking for outrageous, broadway style dance numbers in your videos? How about drill team style dancers with elaborate choreographers. It's a must for any pop-star-hopeful nowadays and Janet is one of the originators of the broadway/drill team style dancing in videos. Videos like "When I Think of You," "Pleasure Principle" and "Rhythm Nation" helped to define this style which can be seen in the videos of artists like Brtiney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Jennifer Lopez, Ashanti, etc. Michael Jackson The greatest entertainer of all time. A living legend. He helped redefine pop music in the MTV generation with his spectacular videos like Thriller, Beat It and Billie Jean. He is one of the first artists to actually care about a video's thematic and conceptual elements and spend time making it out to be like little movies or "short films" as they are now called thanks to this man. You can see his influence in EVERY artists videos.v Plus his dance moves CONTINUE to be jocked by many artists (Justin Timberlake, Usher, Ginuwine, Destiny's Child, etc.) Madonna Madonna show the true meanings of calculation and redefinition. Madonna takes staying on top and in the media spotlight seriously and she knows the right buttons to push. She is one of the major players in the game of controversy. There's an old saying that goes "any publicity is good publicity" and Madonna can sure Amen to that. Because of her strides we can see individuals like Eminem shock us. Eminem Before Eminem, if you were white in hip hop chances are you wouldn't go to far without being laughed at. The only credible white emcees at the time were The Beastie Boys, House of Pain and 3rd Bass. Vanilla Ice sullied the reps of white emcees everywhere after his early 90s pop debauchery. Enter Eminem, a new voice with his own style. No he is not trying to be down with the homeboys rather he attempts to carve his own niche in the rap game with his own unique(ly shocking) raps. He's influenced countless clones. Dr. Dre Nowadays you can't name a hit without naming the hits producers. Dr. Dre helped make a producer the sole driving force in urban mainstream music. Thanks to his run with NWA, Eminem and others, Dr. Dre made the producer a vital necessity for any artist vying for mainstream crossover hit status. Later would enter such major hip hop players such as Missy Elliot, Timbaland and the ever-ubiquitous Neptunes. Puff Daddy Thanks to Mr. P, artists can sample to their hearts content and not have to worry about being unoriginal or unartistic. Puffy helped make it acceptable to rip off old music and "recycle" it into new, updated hits. Artists like J.Lo and others benefit from his footsteps. Will Smith Looking for the rapper/actor? They're everywhere in Hollywood and thanks to individuals like Will Smith rappers in search of other artistic avenues can turn to big screen for prolonged success. Will Smith was the first rapper to have a sitcom which later turned into movie roles and top box office success. Many rappers nowadays owe thanks to him. Run DMC You can't speak of urban crossover without meaning the kings of mainstream urban success Run DMC. Before Run DMC, hip hop and rap were relegated to specifically black stations with R&B formats. Once Run DMC hit, they began to change the face of black music, adding a touch of hip hop. When "Walk This Way" premiered it showcased Run DMC as major MTV heavyweights and helped formed the alliance of rock and rap which has influenced countless groups (Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, etc.) [This message was edited Thu Jun 26 9:59:15 PDT 2003 by JANFAN4L] Sis, since you seem to give hip hop artists so much credit, please dont forget the great artists who shaped them and therefore our present: Buddy Bolden. Louis Armstrong. Fletcher Henderson. Duke Ellington. Count Basie. Charlie Parker. Dizzy Gillespie. Miles Davis. John Coltrane. etc and Ray Charles. James Brown. Joe Tex. The Temptations. The Ohio Players. Mandrill. Earth Wind and Fire (the first three albums). etc | |
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Some great posts - interesting choices of artists - I cant believe I didnt mention Michael Hutchence/INXS! 
I'd include Robert Johnson in there also - without him, no Rolling Stones. No Rolling Stones = ??? PS: Gold319 - cool! | |
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IrishGecko said: JANFAN4L said: Most important artists that have helped shape our present:
2pac His music is still felt to this day and manages to sell millions. Hundreds of emcees and potential emcees emulate his style on a regular basis. Tupac's an influential figure not only in rap, but in popular music. Biggie Smalls Thanks to him, rap took a turn from being obsessively gangsta (a la NWA, Snoop Dogg) in the mid-90s to a more money-glorified materialism. Versace and the ilk reap major rewards from Biggie's decidely pretentious flows. Jackson 5 The first major "boy band." Thanks to this 5ivesome started by father/manager Joe Jackson, kids were in the hot seat making hits and breaking hearts. Girls everywhere clamored for a chance to be down with the handsome sextet, in turn, buying albums, watching cartoon shows and even fantasizing about them in teen beat publications. They set the stage for what would soon be New Edition, The Boys, New Kids on the Block, Backstreet, NSYNC, etc. Geto Boys One of the first major hip hop outfits (along with Arrested Development) to have a distinctively southern voice. Laced in the dialect of dixie, these country boys spit out their own delectable version of hip hop, fried, smothered and sauteed. They helped shape the "southern/country" style of unapologetically southern rappers like 3-6 Mafia, Outkast, Dungeon Family, Cash Money & No Limit, etc.) Lil Kim Sexy is now classy. Lil Kim originated the porno-femme chic style in rap music. Before Kim, female emcees tried their best to just be one of the guys. But after the "Madonna of Rap" appeared on the scene, emcees acted more like ladies with a more feminine/erotic aire expressing their sexuality and domineering qualities (e.g. Trina, Khia, Mercedes, Mona Damone, etc.) Janet Jackson Looking for outrageous, broadway style dance numbers in your videos? How about drill team style dancers with elaborate choreographers. It's a must for any pop-star-hopeful nowadays and Janet is one of the originators of the broadway/drill team style dancing in videos. Videos like "When I Think of You," "Pleasure Principle" and "Rhythm Nation" helped to define this style which can be seen in the videos of artists like Brtiney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Jennifer Lopez, Ashanti, etc. Michael Jackson The greatest entertainer of all time. A living legend. He helped redefine pop music in the MTV generation with his spectacular videos like Thriller, Beat It and Billie Jean. He is one of the first artists to actually care about a video's thematic and conceptual elements and spend time making it out to be like little movies or "short films" as they are now called thanks to this man. You can see his influence in EVERY artists videos.v Plus his dance moves CONTINUE to be jocked by many artists (Justin Timberlake, Usher, Ginuwine, Destiny's Child, etc.) Madonna Madonna show the true meanings of calculation and redefinition. Madonna takes staying on top and in the media spotlight seriously and she knows the right buttons to push. She is one of the major players in the game of controversy. There's an old saying that goes "any publicity is good publicity" and Madonna can sure Amen to that. Because of her strides we can see individuals like Eminem shock us. Eminem Before Eminem, if you were white in hip hop chances are you wouldn't go to far without being laughed at. The only credible white emcees at the time were The Beastie Boys, House of Pain and 3rd Bass. Vanilla Ice sullied the reps of white emcees everywhere after his early 90s pop debauchery. Enter Eminem, a new voice with his own style. No he is not trying to be down with the homeboys rather he attempts to carve his own niche in the rap game with his own unique(ly shocking) raps. He's influenced countless clones. Dr. Dre Nowadays you can't name a hit without naming the hits producers. Dr. Dre helped make a producer the sole driving force in urban mainstream music. Thanks to his run with NWA, Eminem and others, Dr. Dre made the producer a vital necessity for any artist vying for mainstream crossover hit status. Later would enter such major hip hop players such as Missy Elliot, Timbaland and the ever-ubiquitous Neptunes. Puff Daddy Thanks to Mr. P, artists can sample to their hearts content and not have to worry about being unoriginal or unartistic. Puffy helped make it acceptable to rip off old music and "recycle" it into new, updated hits. Artists like J.Lo and others benefit from his footsteps. Will Smith Looking for the rapper/actor? They're everywhere in Hollywood and thanks to individuals like Will Smith rappers in search of other artistic avenues can turn to big screen for prolonged success. Will Smith was the first rapper to have a sitcom which later turned into movie roles and top box office success. Many rappers nowadays owe thanks to him. Run DMC You can't speak of urban crossover without meaning the kings of mainstream urban success Run DMC. Before Run DMC, hip hop and rap were relegated to specifically black stations with R&B formats. Once Run DMC hit, they began to change the face of black music, adding a touch of hip hop. When "Walk This Way" premiered it showcased Run DMC as major MTV heavyweights and helped formed the alliance of rock and rap which has influenced countless groups (Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, etc.) [This message was edited Thu Jun 26 9:59:15 PDT 2003 by JANFAN4L] Sis, since you seem to give hip hop artists so much credit, please dont forget the great artists who shaped them and therefore our present: Buddy Bolden. Louis Armstrong. Fletcher Henderson. Duke Ellington. Count Basie. Charlie Parker. Dizzy Gillespie. Miles Davis. John Coltrane. etc and Ray Charles. James Brown. Joe Tex. The Temptations. The Ohio Players. Mandrill. Earth Wind and Fire (the first three albums). etc Oh and by the way, since we're getting so damn technical let's also add... Mozart,Beethoven,Chopin,Palestrina,Byrd,Bach,Tchaikovsky,Vivaldi,Liszt,Sibelius,Handel, | |
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JANFAN4L said: Oh and by the way, since we're getting so damn technical let's also add...
Mozart,Beethoven,Chopin,Palestrina,Byrd,Bach,Tchaikovsky,Vivaldi,Liszt,Sibelius,Handel, OOOHHH!!! GET U! | |
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Nothing to add here...except great thread!! 
Madonna is my obvious choice! | |
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Okay, Janfan4L? Not that you're necessarily wrong. I think each of the artists you named have had an effect on the music industry at present, but few have had an artistic impact. Let's go through the list.
2pac: no disagreement as to his effect on hip-hop and larger pop culture, he has spawned tons of imitators. Biggie Smalls: see above. also happens to be one of the greatest emcees in the history of hip-hop. Jackson 5: for timeless hits and imitators, yep. Geto Boys: early southern-fried hip-hop group who I saw in concert twice. can't agree that they had a far-reaching impact. not many southern-fried hip-hop groups other than Outkast have made enduring music. Lil Kim: Nope. Ain't with you there. Salt-N-Pepa were doing the sexy emcee thing years before Lil' Kim came on the scene. Hell, the Real Roxanne was doing that in 85! And on top of that, she's wack. Janet Jackson: a pop star extraordinaire, a video vanguard, and the queen bee of all modern divas, Madonna included. I can see why she's on this list. Tons of solo female artists have made fortunes aping her style. Michael Jackson: self-evident, but with a major assist to Quincy Jones and the Motown hitmaking machine, which included the Funk Brothers. Madonna: a begrudging agreement. Eminem: sorry, no dice. tons of emcees came along that paved the way. regardless of race, he's not a pioneer. name one white emcee who's had a similar effect. he's a notable though. one of the best emcees of his time. but as far as lyricists are concerned, Rakim, KRS-ONE, and a ton of others are more influential. And as far as the solo MC, LL Cool J was the trailblazer insofar as he proved that a solo emcee could blow up. Give HIM the props you give Em. Dr. Dre: Yes. Puff Daddy: absolutely not. he got way too much credit for the production he did. his "mourning" of BIG was so self-aggrandizing it made me sick. it also made him a bigger star than he would have ever been had Biggie survived. Will Smith: as an entertainer, he's notable. as an artist?No way. Run DMC: No argument whatsoever. [This message was edited Thu Jun 26 22:12:03 PDT 2003 by namepeace] Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Okay, let's limit this to the history of popular music, i.e., the last 100 years or so:
Louis Armstrong Duke Ellington G. & I. Gershwin Frank Sinatra John Coltrane/JC Quartet (the greatest rock band in history) Miles Davis/MD Quintet (incl. Coltrane, Cannonball, Bill Evans) Thelonious Monk Ella Fitzgerald Billie Holliday Louis Jordan Buddy Holly Muddy Waters Chuck Berry James Brown Sly & The Family Stone Stevie Wonder Jimi Hendrix The Beatles The Who Led Zeppelin The Sex Pistols The Ramones David Bowie Steely Dan Joni Mitchell Donna Summer (I said it!) Isaac Hayes The Funk Brothers George Clinton Curtis Mayfield Al Green Marvin Gaye Tina Turner Aretha Franklin Diana Ross The Jackson 5 Earth, Wind & Fire (one of the greatest 20th century bands of any genre,  )
The Police U2 Sade Janet Jackson Nirvana Michael Jackson Prince (of the last 25 years, he's at the top of the list) Run-DMC LL Cool J Public Enemy Rakim Notorious B.I.G. De La Soul Outkast NWA 2Pac D'Angelo Jill Scott Maxwell Meshell N'degeocello Beck Radiohead Jazzanova That's all I can name right now. [This message was edited Thu Jun 26 22:07:25 PDT 2003 by namepeace] [This message was edited Thu Jun 26 22:09:38 PDT 2003 by namepeace] Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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JANFAN4L said: Oh and by the way, since we're getting so damn technical let's also add... Mozart,Beethoven,Chopin,Palestrina,Byrd,Bach,Tchaikovsky,Vivaldi,Liszt,Sibelius,Handel, Actually I wasnt getting technical as you say it.. I was being truthful and soulful. But you are right. Most major jazz artists were heavily influenced by classical composition, so there you go... | |
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namepeace said: Okay, Janfan4L? Not that you're necessarily wrong. I think each of the artists you named have had an effect on the music industry at present, but few have had an artistic impact. Let's go through the list.
2pac: no disagreement as to his effect on hip-hop and larger pop culture, he has spawned tons of imitators. Biggie Smalls: see above. also happens to be one of the greatest emcees in the history of hip-hop. Jackson 5: for timeless hits and imitators, yep. Geto Boys: early southern-fried hip-hop group who I saw in concert twice. can't agree that they had a far-reaching impact. not many southern-fried hip-hop groups other than Outkast have made enduring music. Lil Kim: Nope. Ain't with you there. Salt-N-Pepa were doing the sexy emcee thing years before Lil' Kim came on the scene. Hell, the Real Roxanne was doing that in 85! And on top of that, she's wack. Janet Jackson: a pop star extraordinaire, a video vanguard, and the queen bee of all modern divas, Madonna included. I can see why she's on this list. Tons of solo female artists have made fortunes aping her style. Michael Jackson: self-evident, but with a major assist to Quincy Jones and the Motown hitmaking machine, which included the Funk Brothers. Madonna: a begrudging agreement. Eminem: sorry, no dice. tons of emcees came along that paved the way. regardless of race, he's not a pioneer. name one white emcee who's had a similar effect. he's a notable though. one of the best emcees of his time. but as far as lyricists are concerned, Rakim, KRS-ONE, and a ton of others are more influential. And as far as the solo MC, LL Cool J was the trailblazer insofar as he proved that a solo emcee could blow up. Give HIM the props you give Em. Dr. Dre: Yes. Puff Daddy: absolutely not. he got way too much credit for the production he did. his "mourning" of BIG was so self-aggrandizing it made me sick. it also made him a bigger star than he would have ever been had Biggie survived. Will Smith: as an entertainer, he's notable. as an artist?No way. Run DMC: No argument whatsoever. [This message was edited Thu Jun 26 22:12:03 PDT 2003 by namepeace] It's not a case of 'agreeing' with anybody - these are personal opinions. However, I have 2 say, whether u like it or not, or agree or not, if u dont think that Eminem is important in the scheme of things and how the music industry is headed, then im afraid u are seriously deluded. He has done more 4 bring rap music 2 the masses than any other artist since Run DMC. Run DMC tapped in2 the commercial market - they were the shrewd 'Puffy's' of their day - Eminem is their equivelent 2 this generation. I just wanted 2 add my but of course, your opinion counts as much as the next man - it just came across as u stating these opinions because u didnt like these artists - u dont have 2 like them 2 understand how impotant they are in the scheme of things...
(Prime example being I think Puffy is a useless, talentless artist who is increadibly overrated, but their is no denying what he has done 4 the industry all the same. | |
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Elvis
David Bowie Beatles Urban Dance Squad U2 WHAT IF THERE IS NO TOMORROW? THERE WASN'T ONE TODAY! | |
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bananacologne said: It's not a case of 'agreeing' with anybody - these are personal opinions.
If an opinion is expressed, it certainly follows that I am free to express my opinion as to whether I agree. That is a reasonable expectation on this board. I never said either one of us was right. I was compelled to give my thoughts because the list featured almost exclusively R&B/hip-hop artists of the last 20 years. However, I have 2 say, whether u like it or not, or agree or not, if u dont think that Eminem is important in the scheme of things and how the music industry is headed, then im afraid u are seriously deluded. He has done more 4 bring rap music 2 the masses than any other artist since Run DMC.
Sorry, b/c. I could make the same argument for MC Hammer. That doesn't mean he's necessarily an "important" voice. You see, there is no doubt -- none -- that Em is one of if not the greatest MC of his generation. But listen to hip-hop these days. Who really emulates his style? Nobody, because it can't really be copied. So yes, you are right, he's an important artist because of his impact on hip-hop and music, but not an important influence. It's important not to fall into the "Elvis" trap and act like he revolutionized hip-hop. I don't think he did. I interpret "important" for the purposes of this thread as it relates to influence, not impact. Time could prove me wrong. Run DMC tapped in2 the commercial market - they were the shrewd 'Puffy's' of their day - Eminem is their equivelent 2 this generation.
Run-DMC was one of the founding artists of the hip-hop revolution. Eminem is at least a 3d-generation emcee. There's a difference between helping to INVENT a genre and building upon a genre. I just wanted 2 add my
but of course, your opinion counts as much as the next man - it just came across as u stating these opinions because u didnt like these artists - u dont have 2 like them 2 understand how impotant they are in the scheme of things...I actually happen to like and respect Eminem (and most of the artists Janfan4L mentioned). He and other modern artists have kept hip-hop on the radar screen (although, for the most part, it is artistically bankrupt). But I happen to think his importance in the ultimate scheme of things is overstated, for now. Wait ten years and then see if people talk about him. Prime example being I think Puffy is a useless, talentless artist who is increadibly overrated, but their is no denying what he has done 4 the industry all the same.
He's sold records. Shoot, ABBA sold records. The Carpenters sold records. Smashmouth sells records. As much as I like some Puffy-related tracks, I would call him a player in the industry. But players come and go. I would not call him important. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Grandmaster Flash-I dont know if he's been overlooked or not. I consider him 2 have had a pretty significant impact on modern music. [This message was edited Fri Jul 4 12:38:28 PDT 2003 by JDINTERACTIVE] | |
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I can boil it down to 3.
3. Elvis - As an image and icon 2. The Beatles - As the most influential singer/ songwriters ever 1. James Brown (and his '60s/ '70's bands) - as the main rhythmic foundation for all the funk, hip-hop, dance and a great deal of the pop, jazz and jazz fusion of the past 35 + years | |
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These are the people who have effected me musically one way or another. They have also help shaped my world and let me see things just a little bit differently then usual...
Mozart Beethoven James Brown George Clinton Sly Stone Jimi Hendrix Marvin Gaye Stevie Wonder Patrice Rushen Teena Marie Queen Aerosmith War Prince Micheal Jackson Madonna Janet Jackson Sheila E. And Just Recently: Raphel Sadiq Joi Maxwell Pharrell Williams D'angelo Amel Lurriex Angie Stone Ememinem Missy Eilliot Nas Jay Z Dr.Dre (favorite producer) [This message was edited Fri Jul 4 13:55:37 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa] | |
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