XLBubba said:[quote]Please explain.[/quote}

two words:VIBRATOR and WILDCARD.
go check em out ,then you tell me.

LEWISIV said:

who?

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

im too sexy for my shirt..too sex for my shirt...so sexy it huuurts lol

altho can be fun...if enough cocktails have been consumed

violett said:

hey, gyrl!

XLBubba said:

Where do I start??? If you like Prince, it suprises me that you aren't at least as equally fascinated with TTD.

I wholeheartedly agree with some of the other posts on this thread that indicate TTD has accomplished many of the things fams could only wish Prince had.

I scoffed at TTD's arrogance when he first came out. He was good, but to me Hardline wasnt THAT great. His brilliance seemed to unfold a few years later after he had his fill of stardom.

Progressively from Neither Fish Nor Flesh, through Vibrator, to present, I get this strange feeling that TTD is not of this world.

He sings with such a peculiar, ornate, and sincere sense of happiness and content, it always grabs my attention.

pimpdoutt said:

I'm glad you had a great experience! perhaps his ego had been stroked that night better than in philadelphia. maybe he just wasn't as jet-legged. i really do wish i could say the same thing, unfortunately it seems as if he forgot why we were there that night at the troc.

pimpdoutt said:

Thank u. I found that he wrote lyrics which tried to make him sound clever, more than for the meaning of the lyrics themselves. His videos, and in fact the whole approach of the album screams: "Please take me seriously", and that's the clincher: He takes himself SO seriously, which would be okay if it was low-key and introspective (as perhaps he is now) but not when he's in-yopur-face look-at-me. That's pretentious (related to the word "pretend" - putting on an act of being extremely clever and artistic, particularly when you don't have the depth toi back it up.)

wasitgood4u said:

People change; evolve; metamorphisis [sp?]

judging from what he's shown as of late, he doesn't seem to be anything like he was back then.

to be honest i've only ever seen the "wishing well" and "sign your name" videos once or twice.

if they're anything close to as bad as P's then i'm sure i havent missed much.

as for lack of depth, and not being able to back it up, you can't be serious though.

come on people, this guy hasn't had a hit-record in 10-15 years, now this namechange thing...this reeks! I know, P hasn't had a real hit-record in 10 years either, but he has been there already. TTD came on stage with his hit debut-album and thought he had made it. A loudmouth, pretentious mofo when he came with his second album. Then it it bombed and he became quiet, then another record bombed... and now this stupid name change? Puhlease!!!

He is worthless!

abierman said:

Wild Card has 2 good songs on it.
What the hell is wrong with his voice?

wasitgood4u said:

...And I Need To Be With Someone Tonight

Shine on your light
Lead me to your home

Lower your sights
Put away your comb

Though black babies are starving
And cows fed for the carving

All I know is I'm lonely
And I need to be with someone tonight

Lift up your chin
Let me see your eyes

Words are not my yen
My tongue is often tied

Though apartheid's a greater issue
I long to hear "I miss you"

All I know is I'm lonely
And I need to be with someone tonight

'Till men stop being intimidated
By women who have made it

All I know is I'm lonely
And I need to be with someone tonight


-ttd

wasitgood4u said:

Turn The Page

You chose with age
To speak with a prima ballerina's rage
And speak of all the kingdoms
That would swoop down
Stick around
Then proceed to ignore you

No flash pot pan, guitar man
Or resurrected Apollo myth
To seal your fate
Feed your plate
And just plain worship and adore you
But the pills you swill
Bring you no thrill
So travel lightly on the wing this time
Leaving all your baggage behind

As you wander through your vagabond stage
And find yourself shovelling shit
With a rusty jack-handle queen of a broken spade
You must not be afraid
You must turn the page

You wore your goddess down
In jaundiced disarray
Your halo fell into decay
Swiped by those you loved
But could not hold in sway behind you
And then the dry spell leaves
At a low shutter speed
Long enough for you to see
That you create your own reality
And that the wait alone will not enshrine you
And the war that you swore
Would pour through your door
To come to your rescue this time
Is all in your mind

Now as you wander through your vagabond stage
And you find yourself shovelling shit
With a rusty jack-handle queen of a broken spade
And you find yourself kicking dirt around
With your Paris green pumps
Of pentacles and precious jade
You must not be afraid
You must turn the page

You dreamt a world of things
Like you were a duchess born
Or Coretta Scott King
And the queen does not invite you over for a tea at her gaff
In Scotland
Or in Buckingham's back-yard

Now I'm sure 'Van the Man' of whom I'm a fan
Can surely understand
As he said "It is not why, it just is."
So therefore you need not remain scarred
And in time you'll find
That your salvation is mine
As you travel lightly on the wing this time
Leaving all your baggage behind

Now as you wander through your vagabond stage
And you find yourself shovelling shit
With a rusty jack-handle queen of a broken spade
And you find yourself kicking dirt around
With your Paris green pumps
Of pentacles and precious jade
Pulling the roots from your hair
Dyed from a bottle
You saw in a windows with
An 'Everything must go!!' sale sign
Prominently displayed

And yet waiting for your dancing
On the edge of a precipice heart to sing
Those serenading soul songs
That fulfillingness and consciousness brings
Releasing you from your captive cage
Replacing love for all your rage
Turning your hope on a rope's magic pope kaleidoscope
Into a rabbit's foot parade
You must not be afraid
(Eyes forward babe)
You must turn the page

One thing is sure
And that is change
When the water's rising
You can't remain
Move to dry land
Move to dry land
You've got to move on

abierman said:

It's Been Said

It's been said be a poet better
Sealed with a smile and perfumed letter
It's been said by the painter's colours more brightly
It's been said but here it goes again, I love you

It's been said that your eyes are amazing
And that they tell a deeper secret
Than your body wishes to hold
And that your quiet tears will be heard as gentle whispers
It's been said but here it goes again, I love you

It's been said by far too many drifters
That perhaps your eyes had seen fall short the glory of
It's been said from the soil of a prophet's graveyard
It's been said by the light of your mirror's vanity
It's been said but here it goes again, I love you

(Please believe me that I love you)

Take this you beautiful distraction
I love you

Tom said:

this is my favorite ttd song. no one has ever been so mouthy or wordy in a song and pulled it off to perfection! it would've been great to see that one live.

He has great talent and is not whacked in the head like our Prince.

Hardline is still my favorite album. And I find the lyrics incisive and genuine. Some, like in "If You all get to Heaven," are chilling. I never found him pretentious.

Yes, he does take himself seriously. I like that. Life ... and being human ... in this world where you fight to define but not compromise yourself ... is very serious.

and because of that, I'm glad he didn't make superficial, party music with simple lyrics



.
.
.
[This message was edited Wed Jun 4 19:22:18 PDT 2003 by SynthiaRose]

His lyrics are very deep and poetic, but a lot of the things he told in interviews were just ironic and people didn't get it, I really do not think he takes himself too seriously

abierman said:

You judge artistry by the number of HITS someone has had? Hhmmm. Interesting.

BlaqueKnight said:

Actually I do not, it's just that TTD was the one who screamed of all roofs that he was going to be so fucking huge and that was going make the world forget about Prince and even James Brown. Jesus, at the low-point of his career (as if there was a high!) he even appeared as a cameo in a Tom Petty video ('Into The Great Wide Open') next to Wilson Philips (!)! Can I say desperate? If this guy really is so talented, then why isn't that recognized by the critics and the people? Artists who are good sell, it is a fact. Alright, not all big sellers are good artists (i.e. many boy- & girl-bands) but at least they appeal to a segment of the people.
Now this TTD, we haven't heard from him for years, I believe he didn't even have a record-deal (understandable, considering the bombs on his name), now he comes back with this spiritual name-bullshit. This proves that he can not convince with his music, he has to come up with an act. And yes, it has been done before. We saw it happen with Prince. The only difference is that Prince has always been a spiritual character, eventhough he is taking it a bit too far now.
TTD is a poser, and he sucks even at that!
[This message was edited Thu Jun 5 0:42:20 PDT 2003 by abierman]

If he were only a good musician or only a gifted wordsmith or only a wicked melody-maker or only a fantastic singer or only a solid song-stylist or only a hypnotic performer -- I'd see the point of this thread...

But because Sananda fires on all of those cylinders on most days (and most of them on the rest), I gotta say it:

*sounding like Prince's mom in Purple Rain*

"You're crraaa-zeee!"

Tom said:

One of the most haunting, chilling, yet most beautiful songs I've heard!! Fell in love with this one from note one!!!

It has to be said Terence/Sananda's site beats the living crap outta the NPGMC.

Lots of great freebies!

abierman said:

[This message was edited Mon Jun 9 8:41:10 PDT 2003 by RhythmMan]

abierman said:

Seems to me that your focus is more on old rantings from YEARS ago rather than the music at hand. "Vibrator" and "Wild Card" can be put up against anything Prince has done within this same time period and fair out as well on some levels and better on others. Sananda is a good artist. PERIOD. The THEORY that good artists sell is BULLSHIT. Many good artists go unoticed because of industry agendas. If the label wants you to buy Ja-Fool, they dump MILLIONS into him and bombard you with images and heavy rotation of his music over and over until you finally accept it. That has NOTHING to do with the material; its called MARKETING. Besides, Sananda GAVE WILD CARD AWAY ONLINE FOR FREE before it was released as a CD. Top that! Who does THAT? If that's not the artist saying "judge me by the merits of my material", I don't know what is. No posers would do that, my friend. Sananda has had ego problems in the past, but at least he has the talent to back it up. Unless you can outsing him, I'd think twice on the "poser" comment; and even then as a good singer, one should recognize and respect those who also possess "the gift".

abierman said:

His career high was his debut album. It spent 9 weeks at the top of the UK chart (more weeks than all of Prince's UK no.1 albums put together) and sold 10 million worldwide.

Cloudbuster said:

exactly, and he has never lived up to expectations ever since. His debut was a lucky shot. And I know other pieces of shit artists/bands that have spent weeks at the top of the charts en that have sold millions...

abierman said:

Terence, on the Arsenio show EONS ago, talked to Arsenio about the thin field of young black male performers in the pop scene and how Seal was the one brother doing it without a hint of androgyny.

I think a good bit of the egotistical stuff TTD spouted during his debut was, like he's said, part of him just tripping on the success. But, that statement about black men might point to something deeper: How do you grab the public's attention as a black male who doesn't fit the rap/thug mold and has so much to offer as an entertainer? And, to go deeper? How do you keep their attention?

Without going too deep with comparisons (because folks tend to resent even an allusion to race in music -- though through that statement, I admit, I'm making such an allusion even now), it's a shame other artists come with far less artistic commitment and technical skill/ability and far outsell him. But, as BlaqueKnight has said, that happens far too frequently.

(too frequent edit)
[This message was edited Tue Jun 10 12:26:53 PDT 2003 by ThreadBare]

ThreadBare said:

Exactly! I remember this interview vividly because of this, and he also spoke about his decision to not follow the obvious commercial path after Hardline and follow the artistic one by recording NFNF!

alexnvrmnd said:

I remember getting hooked on NFNF when it first came out and MTV ran a promo special on him and his new album. Grainy footage of a scruffy (compared with his clean-shaven Hardline look) TTD opining about a darker direction.

I bought the album and was floored. It was the bomb. Loved it -- far more than Hardline.

abierman said:

I am not about to write off TTD, in fact, I am intrigued by what I hear about the new LP. However, I sensed a conscious effort to emulate Prince in the sense that he wanted to make his "ATWIAD" statement with his second LP, and tried to style his video/performance aura after Prince's. I mean, really, ever since P blew up the industry has been trying to crown a successor, and TTD was anxious to take on that role.

The problem? TTD thought it would come easy, He paid no dues.

From a practical standpoint, Prince was clever in developing his career. He played ball for his 1st 2 albums and then garnered a lot of free pub with his next 2. No. 4 generated enough sales and video interest 4 him to muster a full-blown blitzkrieg with Purple Rain. After that blew up, he could write his own check for the next 10 years. (

TTD wasn't that patient or tactical. He decided he'd done enough the 1st time out and was gonna try to out-Prince Prince. But P had built up his name and "bankability" before he REALLY branched off. TTD didn't put in those dues. Had he done so, he may very well have been the next big thing.

That being said, I do admit I've prejudged him somewhat. So I might buy this new LP and see what it's like.