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Yet another drop in RIAA new release certifications for 2021

Back in 2020 the RIAA reported that only 21 albums released during the calendar year were certified Gold and/or Platnum, of course the blame was laid on COVID as that was the blame for obvious things like the absence of live shows last year. BUT 2021 has seen shows of course come back more in some places than others, but one thing that slipped again were the certifying of new releases for the year. This years total was reported at 16 an all time low, and only two of those were platnum, though technically Adele and Taylors RED were platnum and gold but just passed it after this report but still its pretty dismal when Taylors RED outsells the Billboard and time magazine artist of the year Olivia Rodrigo who had a gold record, Taylors Red outsell her total despite coming out six and half months later. So the labels are still getting paid lets realize that, and getting paid even more are streaming music services, actually making more than ever. The Focus on one song now is $$$ for labels and HUGE for companies, not so the artist, and I am not talking the Taylors and artists that are paid already, I am talking about artists that have to rely on having to play shows and are indie, and shows right now are still filled with obstacles, many artists have to stay local, some overseas artists are finding they cant enter certain countries and have to cancel shows, so I think touring is going to really change big time, smaller shows will happen but as the LIVE thing becomes an issue, many of these artists are really feeling the whole pennies on streams insanity, that is going to lead to alot of artists asking for more, and I think it will pick up steam the more there are as they do the math. The Spotify dude is worth 4 billion dollars and what does he do? He just has a platform, hes not doing anything but giving convenience to people, but at some point things will have to change overall from the artists to the Instagram influencers that suddenly now sing and have a song to make a few dollars. The music streaming services have really never gone up in price including some being free with ads, another BS idea. But if you look at the movie and tv streaming like a Netflix that has seen raises in price many times but also some streaming services that have films even go one step more and ask for a few dollars more for a film or tv show, music streaming doesnt that, well maybe its time they have to look at that. Music has always gotten the shaft and been on the lower rung of the ladder, its the only form of art where people for a long time and still feel it should be free to them.

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"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #1 posted 12/27/21 10:57am

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Do you have a link to all this or is this from your own research?
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MotownSubdivision said:

Do you have a link to all this or is this from your own research?


https://www.riaa.com/riaa...um-awards/

direct from their site, this is certifications, also it does not count any older titles from previous years that may have been submitted for certification or re certification some artists tend to do that. Adele's album is not certified on here she has sold 1.3 to date of the new album, and Taylor's red version also is not certified she just passed 600,000 of that record two weeks ago.


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lastdecember said:



MotownSubdivision said:


Do you have a link to all this or is this from your own research?


https://www.riaa.com/riaa...um-awards/



direct from their site, this is certifications, also it does not count any older titles from previous years that may have been submitted for certification or re certification some artists tend to do that. Adele's album is not certified on here she has sold 1.3 to date of the new album, and Taylor's red version also is not certified she just passed 600,000 of that record two weeks ago.

All right. I haven't seen what you mentioned but I probably just haven't looked in the right places.

It's also pretty damn sad that people apparently can't enough of Justin Bieber... why the hell is he still popular?
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lastdecember said:


https://www.riaa.com/riaa...um-awards/

direct from their site, this is certifications, also it does not count any older titles from previous years that may have been submitted for certification or re certification some artists tend to do that. Adele's album is not certified on here she has sold 1.3 to date of the new album, and Taylor's red version also is not certified she just passed 600,000 of that record two weeks ago.

All right. I haven't seen what you mentioned but I probably just haven't looked in the right places. It's also pretty damn sad that people apparently can't enough of Justin Bieber... why the hell is he still popular?


the RIAA says it on the first page of the link, just 16 albums certified, 98 singles were certified. The numbers on Adele and Swift were not from this article but those are their current soundscan numbers and I believe they have Oliva Rodrigo selling just a bit over 520,000 to dat since it's release in May. As for the singles that's the businesses focus that's why there is so much of it, little to pay out, more money to streaming companies those artists tend to make their money elsewhere like clicks on YouTube or Instagram.


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Reply #5 posted 12/28/21 5:26am

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I am no expert on this. but isn't this just physical sales? my understanding is physical sales is gone and has been replaced with streaming. IIRC, there was an article or interview about the demise of EMI UK and one person was talking aboout how sales used to be back when there were major record labels that had dedicated experienced marketing depts that were responsible for getting records sold. The amount of sales a current major artists like Taylor Swift does is a drop in the bucket compared to what sales numbers used to be like back when major record labels were selling with their army of marketing people.

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I am no expert on this. but isn't this just physical sales? my understanding is physical sales is gone and has been replaced with streaming. IIRC, there was an article or interview about the demise of EMI UK and one person was talking aboout how sales used to be back when there were major record labels that had dedicated experienced marketing depts that were responsible for getting records sold. The amount of sales a current major artists like Taylor Swift does is a drop in the bucket compared to what sales numbers used to be like back when major record labels were selling with their army of marketing people.

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No this is all things factored in, physical, digital downloads and streaming. That is why there are so many certified singles and very few albums. To me it should all just be tracked seperately, which they do when they are telling you about an album's debut week most of the time if you search an artists new release for first week sales it breaks down physical digital and streaming, example would be there is a seperate "album sales chart" which tracks vinyl only. I tend to look at that chart and notice who actually sells stuff and who does not.


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lastdecember said:



MotownSubdivision said:


lastdecember said:



https://www.riaa.com/riaa...um-awards/



direct from their site, this is certifications, also it does not count any older titles from previous years that may have been submitted for certification or re certification some artists tend to do that. Adele's album is not certified on here she has sold 1.3 to date of the new album, and Taylor's red version also is not certified she just passed 600,000 of that record two weeks ago.



All right. I haven't seen what you mentioned but I probably just haven't looked in the right places. It's also pretty damn sad that people apparently can't enough of Justin Bieber... why the hell is he still popular?


the RIAA says it on the first page of the link, just 16 albums certified, 98 singles were certified. The numbers on Adele and Swift were not from this article but those are their current soundscan numbers and I believe they have Oliva Rodrigo selling just a bit over 520,000 to dat since it's release in May. As for the singles that's the businesses focus that's why there is so much of it, little to pay out, more money to streaming companies those artists tend to make their money elsewhere like clicks on YouTube or Instagram.

OK, I see them now.

Far cry from the mid-80s to early 90s; I hate the streaming era. It may be better for listeners because of all the options available to them (which I approve) but there is such a thing as too many options. You're right, nobody but the people who are already at the absolute top seem to benefit from this modern system.
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