TrcikyChristopher said:

https://youtu.be/27NstO1q...p;end=5340

Not even sure what he meant by that, beacuase Prince not in the credits. Now if he meant inspired okay....they even asked him to clarify and he just said yes Prince gave it to him.

Okay boo...

WTF is paying attention 2 this mofo?

Name one genius that ain't crazy lol

(I mean Ye isn't a genius like Prince musician-wise obviously, come on... but he's a genius artist overall. can't deny that)

I think he meant that he was inspired. But Ye likes to leave things out there and vague.

This interview was wild. Entertaining to watch, whether you love him or hate him

AvocadosMax said:

nextedition said:

AvocadosMax said:

Name one genius that ain't crazy lol

(I mean Ye isn't a genius like Prince musician-wise obviously, come on... but he's a genius artist overall. can't deny that)

I think he meant that he was inspired. But Ye likes to leave things out there and vague.

This interview was wild. Entertaining to watch, whether you love him or hate him

The word genius has lost a lot of meaning these days...

anyone could sample some beats..... but only geniuses can make Most Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Yeezus, The Life of Pablo and 808s

just because you don't understand the music and just because it doesn't resonate with you doesn't mean it ain't music made by a genius.

AvocadosMax said:

nextedition said:

AvocadosMax said: The word genius has lost a lot of meaning these days...

anyone could sample some beats..... but only geniuses can make Most Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Yeezus, The Life of Pablo and 808s

just because you don't understand the music and just because it doesn't resonate with you doesn't mean it ain't music made by a genius.

lol...there is NOTHING genius about Kanye West.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLE8lgKfrk0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SsrVGHJvaA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUfuDKKGQxU

only a genius could make art like this

AvocadosMax said:

nextedition said:

AvocadosMax said: The word genius has lost a lot of meaning these days...

anyone could sample some beats..... but only geniuses can make Most Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Yeezus, The Life of Pablo and 808s

just because you don't understand the music and just because it doesn't resonate with you doesn't mean it ain't music made by a genius.

I understand the music, they are nice songs, it's just not genius

"I know I act a fool, but
I promise you I'm goin' back to school
I appreciate what you allowed for me
I just want you to be proud of me (Hey Mama)"

this is very basic rhyhm

genius: exceptional intellectual or creative power

nextedition said:

AvocadosMax said:

anyone could sample some beats..... but only geniuses can make Most Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Yeezus, The Life of Pablo and 808s

just because you don't understand the music and just because it doesn't resonate with you doesn't mean it ain't music made by a genius.

I understand the music, they are nice songs, it's just not genius

"I know I act a fool, but
I promise you I'm goin' back to school
I appreciate what you allowed for me
I just want you to be proud of me (Hey Mama)"

this is very basic rhyhm

genius: exceptional intellectual or creative power

AvocadosMax seems to be focusing more on the beats vs. rhymes like typical Kanye stans, but uhhh, literally every album except his first record has a literal tome of producers and co-producers and co-writer credits on every friggin' track. On the very, very rare occasion a track comes out with a sole Kanye credit like "Bound" it (shockingly) has the same exact production style as his first record (mainstream cookie-cutter soul hit loops with pitch shift).

Either way, k, the stans think this is praiseworthy despite the 40 co-writers co-producers.... How 'bout you spread around a lil of that over-the-top showering enthusiastic praise to one of the other 40 co-writers or co-producers? Mike Deen, not a similar level of talent?? Dude literally produces most of Kanye's records right there in the credits....

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Just pull up the Wikipedia for literally any of those records.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeezus :

lololol I was wrong about "Bound 2", that one somehow took another 5 producers + Kanye to assemble.

nextedition said:

AvocadosMax said:

anyone could sample some beats..... but only geniuses can make Most Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Yeezus, The Life of Pablo and 808s

just because you don't understand the music and just because it doesn't resonate with you doesn't mean it ain't music made by a genius.

I understand the music, they are nice songs, it's just not genius

"I know I act a fool, but
I promise you I'm goin' back to school
I appreciate what you allowed for me
I just want you to be proud of me (Hey Mama)"

this is very basic rhyhm

genius: exceptional intellectual or creative power

if Prince made that song, you'd say that was genius lol

WhisperingDandelions said:

Just pull up the Wikipedia for literally any of those records.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeezus :

No.	Title	Writer(s)	Producer(s)	Length
1.	"On Sight"	Kanye West Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo Thomas Bangalter Malik Jones Che Smith Elon Rutberg Cydel Young Derek Watkins Mike Dean	West Daft Punk Dean[b] Benji B[b]	2:36
2.	"Black Skinhead"	West de Homem-Christo Bangalter Jones Young Rutberg Wasalu Jaco Sakiya Sandifer Dean Watkins	West Daft Punk Gesaffelstein[b] Brodinski[b] Dean[b] Lupe Fiasco[b] Jack Donoghue[b] Noah Goldstein[b]	3:08
3.	"I Am a God"	West de Homem-Christo Bangalter Ross Birchard Justin Vernon Jones Smith Rutberg Young Dean Watkins Clifton Bailey Harvel Hart Anand Bakshi Rahul Burman	West Dean Daft Punk Hudson Mohawke[a]	3:51
4.	"New Slaves"	West Christopher Breaux Young Ben Bronfman Jones Smith Rutberg Sandifer Louis Johnson Dean Gábor Presser Anna Adamis	West Bronfman[a] Dean[b] Travis Scott[b] Goldstein[b] Shama Joseph[b] Che Pope[b]	4:16
5.	"Hold My Liquor"	West Dean Vernon Keith Cozart Rutberg Smith Jones Alejandra Ghersi Young Watkins	Dean West Arca[b] Goldstein[b]	5:26
6.	"I'm in It"	West Vernon Jeffrey Ethan Campbell Josh Leary Jones Young Sandifer Rutberg Dean Andre Harris Jill Scott Vidal Davis Carvin Haggins Kenny Lattimore	West Evian Christ[a] Dom Solo[a] Goldstein[b] Arca[b] Dean[b]	3:54
7.	"Blood on the Leaves"	West Birchard Rutberg Jones Tony Williams Young Dean Lewis Allen	West Hudson Mohawke Lunice Carlos Broady[a] 88-Keys[b] Dean[b] Arca[b]	6:00
8.	"Guilt Trip"	West Scott Mescudi Young Dean Larry Griffin, Jr. Keith Elam Kevin Hansford Dupre Kelly Chris Martin Al-Terik Wardrick Marlon Williams Terrence Thornton Tyree Pittman	West Dean S1 Travis Scott[b] Ackee Juice Rockers[b]	4:03
9.	"Send It Up"	West Johnson de Homem-Christo Bangalter Ghersi Mike Levy Sandifer Ab Liva Rutberg Dean Moses Davis Colin York Lowell Dunbar	West Daft Punk Gesaffelstein[a] Brodinski[a] Arca[b] Dean[b]	2:58
10.	"Bound 2"	West John Stephens Charles Wilson Pope Rutberg Young Jones Sandifer Dean Norman Whiteside Bob Massey Robert Dukes Ronnie Self	West Pope[a] Eric Danchick[b] Goldstein[b] No I.D.[b] Dean[b]

lololol I was wrong about "Bound 2", that one somehow took another 5 producers + Kanye to assemble.

no one said he's Prince. And correct, much of his fanbase, including me, always give Mike Dean a lot of credit and respect as his additional production (99% his synth uses or guitar) and mixing come in and has shaped much of Ye's career

Ye is still a genius when it comes to bringing everything together for HIS vision. That's one thing, I believe, that Ye is better at than Prince. Ye is an artist, he excelled in art school. He's a billionare clothing designer, etc. and you see that in his album covers, his music videos, his fashion. He's also good at bringing feeling from a vision into sound.

also a lot of those credits, it could be anything like adding just some hi hats to (rarely ) making the whole beat as to why Ye would include them in the credits. and he always has a team of writer he writes with on different projects. He is ultimately in charge of the final product and how it sounds sonically. in that sense, he is much like MJ except MJ wasn't known for genius use of samples.

AvocadosMax said:

also a lot of those credits, it could be anything like adding just some hi hats to (rarely ) making the whole beat as to why Ye would include them in the credits. and he always has a team of writer he writes with on different projects. He is ultimately in charge of the final product and how it sounds sonically. in that sense, he is much like MJ except MJ wasn't known for genius use of samples.

and many times, Ye will include the artist of the sample into writing credit. For example with Ghost Town, Shirley Ann Lee is included as the sample they that she approved to get cleared for them to use is so prominent in the masterpiece of a song:

Shirley Ann Lee

"Someday"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LMw4wYjo0o

Ghost Town

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAsHVwl-MU4

And something that makes the ye fan community so fun online is the amount of great quality edits/remixes of Ye's music is out there. known on Reddit as YEdits...

https://www.youtube.com/w...QAsaY0pKhI

the Prince fan community is the best fan community when it comes to the legend of bootlegs/leaks, but ye rivals just because so many of his fans are able to make different variations of different tracks. The Yandhi era was crazy.

This has been further emphasized with the recent stem player that came out

https://www.youtube.com/w...peSqDx_1KE

If Prince listed every member of Tower Of Power for looping "Squib Cakes" drums, it would look like that Wiki entry.