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MickyDolenz

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Reissue Talk #39

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Phyllis Hyman: Old Friend – The Deluxe Collection 1976-1998

release: July 6, 2021

Creatively traversing the soul/R&B and jazz genres from the mid-‘70s until her passing in the mid-‘90s ,with her instantly recognizable and distinctive vocal style, Phyllis developed a solid cadre of discerning music buyers with albums for Buddah, Arista and Philadelphia International Records, collated here along with a number of bonus tracks and guest appearances for a total of (113) tracks. Appropriately named ‘The Deluxe Collection,” this 9CD box has been lovingly created by SoulMusic.com founder David Nathan in cooperation with Glenda Gracia, manager & executrix of the Phyllis Hyman estate, who contributes a moving up-close-and-personal essay. Renowned writer Janine Coveney provides a heartfelt tribute with an overview of Phyllis’ music; while SoulMusic Records’ Michael Lewis offers his thoughts on Phyllis’ compelling live performances. In a beautifully-designed box with artwork by Roger Williams along with stellar mastering from Nick Robbins, “Old Friend: The Deluxe Collection” is a fitting celebration of Phyllis Hyman’s contribution through music, to commemorate the anniversary of her 72nd birthday, on 6th July.

Disc 1 - Phyllis Hyman marked Phyllis’ official album debut and includes the US R&B/dance charted single, ‘Loving You, Losing You’, co-penned by Philly soul maestro Thom Bell who also co-wrote ‘Betcha By Golly Wow’, which Phyllis recorded with jazz drummer Norman Connors in 1976 along with a duet with Michael Henderson (‘We Both Need Each Other’), resulting in her first exposure to a wider audience. Also on this expanded edition, both sides of Phyllis’ 1976 single for Desert Moon Records.

Disc 2 - Somewhere In My Lifetime marked Phyllis’ addition to the Arista Records’ roster when Buddah Records was acquired by the Clive Davis-helmed label. The title cut was co-produced by Barry Manilow; six tracks were included from Phyllis’ 2nd Buddah LP, “Sing A Song” which only gained release outside the US in 1978; expanded edition features bonus tracks from “Sing A Song” and a guest appearance with saxophonist Pharoah Sanders, ‘As You Are’ as well as 12” single versions of ‘Kiss You All Over’ and ‘So Strange’.

Disc 3 - You Know How To Love Me teamed Phyllis with James Mtume & Reggie Lucas, hitmakers for Stephanie Mills; the result was Phyllis’ biggest R&B/dance hit with the now-classic title track; expanded edition includes the Thom Bell-produced ‘Magic Mona’, three tracks on which Phyllis guested with jazz pianist McCoy Tyner; and ‘In A Sentimental Mood’ from the Duke Ellington Broadway musical Sophisticated Ladies, in which Phyllis starred and was nominated for a Tony award.

Disc 4 - 1981’s Can't We Fall In Love Again featured Phyllis’ highest-charting R&B hit, the title track a duet with Michael Henderson. Other tracks included production by Norman Connors and Natalie Cole’s co-producer Chuck Jackson; this expanded edition features three tracks not on the original LP.

Disc 5 - Goddess Of Love was Phyllis’ final LP for Arista with production from Narada Michael Walden (the R&B/dance hit ‘Riding The Tiger’) and Thom Bell, with a bonus track from the Bell sessions, ‘I’m Not Asking You To Stay’ on this expanded edition.

Disc 6 - Living All Alone marks Phyllis’ 1986 pacting with Kenny Gamble & Leon Huff’s Philadelphia International Records’ label and resulted in immediate success with two Top 20 R&B hits, the title track and the perennial ‘Old Friend’, which remained a staple of Phyllis’ live shows; expanded edition features guest appearances with Barry Manilow and Grover Washington Jr.

Disc 7 - 1991’s Prime Of My Life brought Phyllis her 1st R&B chart-topping single, ‘Don’t Wanna Change The World’ (with the rare non-rap version included on this expanded edition) and included notable tracks ‘Living In Confusion’ and ‘Meet Me On The Moon’. Additional bonus track, ‘Hottest Love Around’ was only previously available on a CD single.

Disc 8 - I Refuse To Be Lonely, with primary production by Nick Martinelli (who had worked on Phyllis’ 1991 CD) was released after her passing in June, 1995 and features five tracks co-written by Phyllis including the title track and standout ‘It’s Not About You (It’s About Me’).

Disc 9 - Forever With You consists of a collection of previously-unreleased recordings that Phyllis had recorded for Philadelphia International Records, including four she co-wrote, notably ‘The Strength Of A Woman’, as well as a memorable version of ‘Hurry Up This Way Again’, a 1980 R&B hit for The Stylistics.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #1 posted 07/09/21 4:59pm

SoulAlive

I’m thinking of getting that box set.I have a lot of Phyllis’ music but I don’t have all the albums.
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Reply #2 posted 07/09/21 5:03pm

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speaking of reissues and box sets…I just ordered a new box set from the band Kleeer.Who remembers them? They recorded 8 albums from 1979-1985 and were often on the R&B charts during that period (1981’s “Get Tough” is the jam that I most remember from them).I want to explore their catalog a little more.This set contains all 8 albums plus a disc of bonus tracks.
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Reply #3 posted 07/09/21 11:58pm

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SoulAlive said:

speaking of reissues and box sets…I just ordered a new box set from the band Kleeer.Who remembers them? They recorded 8 albums from 1979-1985 and were often on the R&B charts during that period (1981’s “Get Tough” is the jam that I most remember from them).I want to explore their catalog a little more.This set contains all 8 albums plus a disc of bonus tracks.

Kleer was underrated. I have a best of Cd I bought in 1998 from them. Not an upper echelon band but pretty solid.

My favorites were Winners, She Said She Loves Me, and Running Back To You,

Get Ready, and Intimate Connection. She Said She Loves Me was very underrated.

Woody Cunningham nailed it on the vocals and the drums.

Running Back To You used to get hella airplay in Columbia, SC

I remember they opened for the Gap Band on their Gap Band 3 tour.

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Reply #4 posted 07/10/21 12:54am

SoulAlive

Kleeer: The Atlantic Collection 1979-1985 [8CD Box Set] - YouTube

• Robinsongs bring you the complete Atlantic Collection of the Soul, Funk & Disco Band Kleeer plus a Bonus Disc of 12” & 7” versions of key tracks.

• The Albums are “I Love To Dance”, “Winners”, “License To Dream”, “Taste The Music”, “Get Ready”, “Intimate Connection”, “Seeekret” and as mentioned a bonus disc of tracks from 1979 through 1985.

• All the big floor fillers are featured, including the John Wayne influenced ‘Get Tough’, ‘Winners’, ‘Tonight’s The Night (Good Time)’, ‘Keep Your Body Workin’’, ‘De Ting Continues’ and the very smooth ‘Intimate Connection’ which was produced by Deodato.

• Kleeer formed in New York City in 1972 under the name of Pipeline. They then became the Jam Band before Kleeer was born and a deal with Atlantic Records followed.

• The band consisted of Paul Crutchfield (Percussion & Vocals), Richard Lee (Guitar), Norman Durham (Bass Guitar) & “Woody” Cunningham (Drums).

• Kleeer tracks have been heavily sampled over the years, most notably by Snoop Dogg & 2 Pac

• Sleeve notes by Charles Waring who writes for MOJO & Record Collector magazines.

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Reply #5 posted 07/10/21 12:57am

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phunkdaddy said:

SoulAlive said:

speaking of reissues and box sets…I just ordered a new box set from the band Kleeer.Who remembers them? They recorded 8 albums from 1979-1985 and were often on the R&B charts during that period (1981’s “Get Tough” is the jam that I most remember from them).I want to explore their catalog a little more.This set contains all 8 albums plus a disc of bonus tracks.

Kleer was underrated. I have a best of Cd I bought in 1998 from them. Not an upper echelon band but pretty solid.

My favorites were Winners, She Said She Loves Me, and Running Back To You,

Get Ready, and Intimate Connection. She Said She Loves Me was very underrated.

Woody Cunningham nailed it on the vocals and the drums.

Running Back To You used to get hella airplay in Columbia, SC

I remember they opened for the Gap Band on their Gap Band 3 tour.

I have that same 1998 compilation by them.It's nice,but for years I've been wanting to dig a little deeper and explore their entire catalog.That's why I'm thrilled with this new box set that contains all of their albums.My favorite songs are "Get Tough","Running Back To You","Winners" and "Tonight's The Night (Good Time)".

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Reply #6 posted 07/10/21 1:07am

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Donna Summer 'I'm A Rainbow'-Recovered and Recoloured---her previously unreleased 1981 album gets the remixed treatment

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It’s September 1981 and it’s matter of weeks away from the release of I'm a Rainbow, the second album Donna Summer had recorded for Geffen Records, which had also been produced by Giorgio Moroder and Pete Bellotte. At the time that the album was being recorded, the musical landscape had changed and production techniques were developing further. Geffen also wanted a more R&B-influenced album, despite the album having a more R&B feel than ‘The Wanderer’ had done. The songs and their lyrical content were very strong and Donna’s voice had never sounded better, which was always a tough comparison against previous albums.

A decision was taken by the label to withdraw I'm a Rainbow just prior to its release. David Geffen then brought-in Quincy Jones to produce the next new album; 1982’s Donna Summer. I'm a Rainbow was eventually issued in 1996, as an 18-track CD, without the usual fanfare that heralded a ‘new’ Donna Summer album. A few tracks were familiar to Donna and non-Donna fans, as they had been released in the early 1980s; ‘Highway Runner’ (“Fast Times At Ridgemont High” OST) and ‘Romeo’ (“Flashdance” OST). “Flashdance” also included the ballad ‘Lady, Lady, Lady’ which was performed by original Brooklyn Dreams singer Joe “Bean” Esposito, who appears on the duet ‘I Believe (In You)’.

Fast-forward 40 years and I'm a Rainbow receives a fresh coat of paint, giving credence to the songs’ great lyrics and compositions that they richly deserved at the time. I'm A Rainbow - Recovered and Recoloured has been slimmed-down to a compact 10-track album and completely re-imagined by a host of international producers, from North and South America, Europe and Scandinavia. Junior Vasquez, Le Flex, Figo Sound, Jean Tonique, Ladies On Mars and Oliver Nelson - who has just signed to Atlantic Records - have all added their touch.

The album now has a thread running through it, with a sequence that sees the album open with the beautiful title track and builds throughout the album through soul and dance, ending with the high-octane ‘girl power’ statement track, ‘Leave Me Alone [Ladies On Mars ‘Independence’ Remix]’.

  1. I’m A Rainbow [Junior’s Shiny Rainbow Remix]
  2. I Believe (In You) [Figo Sound Version] – duet with Joe ‘Bean’ Esposito
  3. Back Where You Belong [Jean Tonique Remix]
  4. You To Me [Oliver Nelson Remix]
  5. Don’t Cry For Me Argentina [Ladies On Mars “Buenos Aires” Remix]
  6. Sweet Emotion [Le Flex Remix]
  7. Brooklyn [Ladies On Mars “Child Of Rhythm” Remix]
  8. Romeo [Ladies On Mars “Luv NRG” Remix]
  9. Highway Runner [Ladies On Mars “Street Race” Remix]
  10. Leave Me Alone [Ladies On Mars “Independence” Remix]
  11. Brooklyn [Ladies On Mars “Child Of Rhythm” Remix-Radio Edit]
  12. I Believe (In You) [Figo Sound Radio Version]
  13. Highway Runner [Ladies On Mars “Street Race” Extended Mix]
  14. Brooklyn [Ladies On Mars “Child Of Rhythm” Extended Remix]
  15. Romeo [Ladies On Mars “Luv-NRG” Extended Remix]

"I Believe In You" duet with Joe "Bean" Esposito(Figo Sound Version)

I Believe (In You) - YouTube

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Reply #7 posted 07/12/21 10:49am

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SoulMusic Records is very proud to present a deluxe box set of the 11 Columbia and ARC albums by award-winning icon Deniece Williams released between 1976-1988.

A constant presence on the contemporary music scene as a soul, pop and gospel best-selling artist and distinguished songwriter, ‘Niecy’ (as she’s been known since her early ‘70s tenure with Stevie Wonder’s female background vocalists Wonderlove) has racked up over 25 charted hits, all of which can be found on the eight discs that comprise this first-of-its-kind full showcase of Deniece’s distinctive and influential music.

Produced by SoulMusic.com founder David Nathan, “Free: The Columbia/ARC Recordings” includes an outstanding in-depth essay by distinguished US writer Justin Kantor, with 2021 direct comments from Deniece herself along with interview quotes from the legendary Johnny Mathis as well as an array of producers, songwriters and collaborators involved with some of Niecy’s albums, such as Nathan East, Bill Neale, Greg Mathieson, Monte Moir, Michael Jeffries, Diane Warren, and Michele Val Jean specifically for this project. With stunning artwork by Roger Williams and first class mastering by Nick Robbins, this beautifully-packaged set boasts 115 tracks that display Denice Williams’ soulful artistry as a pre-eminent hitmaker and creative mainstay with a global audience.


• Disc 1: Combining her 1976 gold-certified debut solo LP, NIECY with the follow-up SONG BIRD (1977) – the former produced by the late Maurice White (of EW&F fame) and the late Charles Stepney, the latter produced by White – the 15 tracks include the timeless classic ‘Free’ and Niecy’s long-time show closer ‘God Is Amazing’.

• Disc 2: An expanded edition of THAT’S WHAT FRIENDS ARE FOR, 1978’s international best-selling LP of duets with the iconic Johnny Mathis and three bonus tracks, the across-the-board global No. 1 ‘Too Much, Too Little, Too Late’ as well as versions of The Bee Gees-penned ‘Emotion’ and a 1984 rendition of Major Harris’ ‘Love Won’t Let Me Wait’.

• Disc 3: WHEN LOVE COMES CALLING (1979) with production by Ray Parker Jr. and David Foster includes the R&B/dance hit ‘I’ve Got The Next Dance’; and 1981’s MY MELODY teams Deniece with legendary Philly soul producer/songwriter Thom Bell resulting in charted singles, ‘Silly’ and ‘It’s Your Conscience’.

• Disc 4: Deniece and Thom Bell followed up with 1982’s NIECY included one of her biggest hits, a cover of The Royalettes’ ‘It’s Gonna Take A Miracle’; while the 1983 set I’M SO PROUD marked the beginning of Niecy’s work with late musical maestro George Duke on several tracks such as the title cut, a revival of the Curtis Mayfield-penned classic.

• Disc 5: LET’S HEAR IT FOR THE BOY (1984) – title track produced by George Duke – brought Deniece her biggest global smash as well as the classic ‘Black Butterfly’ while she began producing herself (with Greg Mathieson) for a number of cuts for the LP as well as the follow up album, 1986’s HOT ON THE TRAIL.

• Disc 6: Standalone reissue of 1987’S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE, produced by Steve Levine (known for his work with Culture Club and many others), features US R&B charted singles ‘I Confess’ and ‘Never Say Never’.

• Disc 7: 1988’s AS GOOD AS IT GETS completed Niecy’s Columbia tenure, with production by Monte Moir (Of The Time), Brad Westering and George Duke and includes the Michael Jackson-co-penned ‘We Are Here To Change The World’ and Top 10 US R&B hit ‘I Can’t Wait’.

• Disc 8 comprises 15 tracks with a selection of single edits including the Verdine White co-penned ‘Baby, Baby My Love’s All For You’ (1977) and ‘Do What You Feel’ (1983) as well as 12” disco mixes of ‘I Found Love’ (1979), the 12” version of ‘Let’s Hear It For The Boy’ (1984) and 12” extended versions of ‘Wiser And Weaker’(1986) and ‘Never Say Never’ (1987).

Track Listing:

DISC ONE: THIS IS NIECY / SONG BIRD 1. IT’S IMPORTANT TO ME 2. THAT’S WHAT FRIENDS ARE FOR 3. HOW’D I KNOW THAT LOVE WOULD SLIP AWAY 4. CAUSE YOU LOVE ME BABY 5. FREE 6. WATCHING OVER 7. IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE 8. TIME 9. THE BOY I LEFT BEHIND 10. WE HAVE LOVE FOR YOU 11. GOD IS AMAZING 12. BABY, BABY MY LOVE’S ALL FOR YOU 13. SEASON 14. BE GOOD TO ME 15. THE PAPER

DISC TWO: JOHNNY MATHIS & DENIECE WILLIAMS: THAT’S WHAT FRIENDS ARE FOR (EXPANDED EDITION) 1. YOU’RE ALL I NEED TO GET BY 2. UNTIL YOU COME BACK TO ME (THAT’S WHAT I’M GONNA DO) 3. YOU’RE A SPECIAL PART OF MY LIFE 4. READY OR NOT 5. ME FOR YOU, YOU FOR ME 6. YOUR PRECIOUS LOVE 7. JUST THE WAY YOU ARE 8. THAT’S WHAT FRIENDS ARE FOR 9. I JUST CAN’T GET OVER YOU 10. TOUCHING ME WITH LOVE BONUS TRACKS 11. TOO MUCH, TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE 12. EMOTION 13. LOVE WON’T LET ME WAIT

DISC THREE: WHEN LOVE COMES CALLING / MY MELODY 1. I FOUND LOVE 2. ARE YOU THINKING? 3. MY PRAYER 4. I’VE GOT THE NEXT DANCE 5. TOUCH ME AGAIN 6. WHEN LOVE COMES CALLING 7. GOD KNOWS 8. LIKE MAGIC 9. TURN AROUND 10. WHY CAN’T WE FALL IN LOVE? 11. MY MELODY 12. IT’S YOUR CONSCIENCE 13. SILLY 14. STRANGERS 15. WHAT TWO CAN DO 16. YOU’RE ALL THAT MATTERS 17. SUSPICIOUS 18. SWEET SURRENDER

DISC FOUR: NIECY / I’M SO PROUD 1. WAITING BY THE HOTLINE 2. IT’S GONNA TAKE A MIRACLE 3. LOVE NOTES 4. I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES 5. HOW DOES IT FEEL 6. WAITING 7. NOW IS THE TIME FOR LOVE 8. A PART OF LOVE 9. DO WHAT YOU FEEL 10. I’M SO PROUD 11. SO DEEP IN LOVE 12. I’M GLAD IT’S YOU 13. HEAVEN IN YOUR EYES 14. THEY SAY 15. LOVE, PEACE AND UNITY 16. IT’S OKAY

DISC FIVE: LET’S HEAR IT FOR THE BOY / HOT ON THE TRAIL 1. LET’S HEAR IT FOR THE BOY 2. I WANT YOU 3. PICKING UP THE PIECES 4. BLACK BUTTERFLY 5. NEXT LOVE 6. HAUNTING ME 7. DON’T TELL ME WE HAVE NOTHING 8. BLIND DATING 9. WRAPPED UP 10. WHITER THAN SNOW 11. WISER AND WEAKER 12. HOT ON THE TRAIL 13. HE LOVES ME, HE LOVES ME NOT 14. VIDEO 15. I FEEL THE NIGHT 16. WE’RE TOGETHER 17. STRAIGHT FROM THE HEART 18. HEALING

DISC SIX: WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE 1. I CONFESS 2. NEVER SAY NEVER 3. WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE 4. LOVE FINDS YOU 5. NOT BY CHANCE 6. ONE LESS LONELY HEART 7. I BELIEVE IN YOU 8. SOMEONE FOR SOMEONE 9. BABY THIS IS LOVE 10. DON’T BLAME IT ON MY HEART

DISC SEVEN: AS GOOD AS IT GETS 1. I CAN’T WAIT 2. THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS 3. WE ARE HERE TO CHANGE THE WORLD 4. ALL I NEED 5. MEMORIES 6. THERE’S NO OTHER 7. I AM SURE 8. IT’S YOU I’M AFTER 9. DON’T STOP THE LOVE 10. HOLD ME TIGHT

DISC EIGHT: BONUS TRACKS 1. FREE (LONG SINGLE VERSION) 2. BABY BABY MY LOVE’S ALL FOR YOU (PROMOTIONAL SINGLE VERSION) 3. SILLY (SINGLE VERSION) 4. IT’S YOUR CONSCIENCE (SINGLE VERSION) 5. IT’S GONNA TAKE A MIRACLE (SINGLE VERSION) 6. DO WHAT YOU FEEL (SINGLE VERSION) 7. IT’S OKAY (SINGLE VERSION) 8. I FOUND LOVE (12″ DISCO MIX) 9. I’VE GOT THE NEXT DANCE (12″ DISCO MIX) 10. LET’S HEAR IT FOR THE BOY (12″ VERSION) 11. NEXT LOVE (12″ VERSION) 12. THE WISER GETS WEAKER (12″ EXTENDED VERSION) 13. NEVER SAY NEVER (12″ EXTENDED VERSION) 14. I CONFESS (12″ DANCE MIX) 15. I CAN’T WAIT (12″ VERSION)

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Reply #8 posted 07/12/21 11:12am

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So I have some qualms with the Soulmusic.com box sets for Phyllis and Deniece. Nothing new for me on either of these sets. Glaring omissions from the Phyllis box set is a track she recorded for her first album "Sounds Like A Love Song", which has only appeared on one compilation CD back in the 90s and extended and remixed versions of "Ain't You Had Enough Love" and "It's Not About You" are all missing. Not to mention I am disappointed Gamble & Huff decided not to use the opportunity to release some more vaullt material they have on Phyllis that was promised a few years ago but never surfaced.


The Deniece box set I would be more interested in just to have a remaster of "Water Under the Bridge". But, I can't see myself paying that price just for one album. I already have the original Japan & domestic CD pressings of every Deniece album thru 1984 along with the expanded reissues from BBR and FTG. So if I buy this particular box set, I would have triple copies of many of those titles. Not to mention the remastering on Soulmusic.com reissues have always been hit and miss.


But my main problem is the packaging. The original artwork is not replicated in these boxsets. Instead, small scans of the front/back of each album along with small scans of the side A & B label of the vinyls are used as the sleeve artwork.

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Reply #9 posted 07/12/21 2:01pm

SoulAlive

Artists that deserve box sets: Cameo,Maze featuring Frankie Beverly,The Commodores,Rufus featuring Chaka Khan.

I'd love to see box sets from all those bands.Fill the sets up with rare tracks,demos,outtakes,live stuff....and take my money! lol

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Reply #10 posted 07/13/21 1:01pm

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kitbradley said:

Glaring omissions from the Phyllis box set is a track she recorded for her first album "Sounds Like A Love Song", which has only appeared on one compilation CD back in the 90s

yeah,that should have been included.But I am glad that they included her rare 1976 single "Baby (I'm Gonna Love You)",which is fantastic music

Baby (I'm Gonna Love You) - YouTube

they also include the B-side "Do Me".Her first album is excellent and it's even better with these two bonus tracks on it.

Phyllis Hyman – Baby (I'm Gonna Love You) / Do Me (1976, Vinyl) - Discogs

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SoulAlive said:

The Commodores

I don't think Motown does box sets other than a series of all of the A & B sides of singles released during the 1960s to the early 1970s. I think those are out of print now, not sure. Some of the Jackson 5 singles were in mono instead of stereo, which are included in the singles box sets. Motown did release a box set of all of the solo albums Michael Jackson had on the label including single only songs. That was not long after he passed. Motown has released deluxe versions of albums, which were also done with other labels Universal owns.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #12 posted 07/13/21 4:46pm

SoulAlive

Isn’t Motown now owned by Universal? Surely they can give the Commodores’ catalog the respect and attention that it deserves.Their catalog has been ignored for too long now.I want a big,multi-disc box set that contains all of their Motown albums remastered and filled with bonus tracks,demos,outtakes and other rarities.For some strange reason,the CD of their 1978 album ‘Natural High’ has poor sound quality,even though it is supposed to be “remastered”.That is inexcusable.
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Reply #13 posted 07/13/21 5:34pm

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SoulAlive said:

Isn’t Motown now owned by Universal? Surely they can give the Commodores’ catalog the respect and attention that it deserves.Their catalog has been ignored for too long now.I want a big,multi-disc box set that contains all of their Motown albums remastered and filled with bonus tracks,demos,outtakes and other rarities.For some strange reason,the CD of their 1978 album ‘Natural High’ has poor sound quality,even though it is supposed to be “remastered”.That is inexcusable.

Motown had in the past and still does focus mostly on the 1960s. Probably because that's what the general public considers "Motown". Such as endless compilations with My Girl & Sugar Pie Honey Bunch. razz Or Broadway stage plays mainly featuring the 1960s era hits. Like I mentioned, the singles box sets stopped in the early 1970s around 1973 or 1974. After that maybe their focus is on 1970s Marvin Gaye albums, What's Going On in particular. I think Stevie Wonder owns his masters starting with Where I'm Coming From. So Motown has to get his approval to do anything with that material, but not with anything before that. The only thing Motown has done that was Commodores album related was a 2 disc deluxe version of Lionel's Can't Slow Down. Most of Jermaine Jackson's Motown albums have never been on CD and he was the son in law of Berry Gordy. lol

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #14 posted 07/13/21 7:30pm

SoulAlive

It’s just a shame that the Commodores’ catalog is being neglected.It's not like their music wasn’t popular.They were HUGE in the late 70s! I can name numerous lesser bands and artists who have big,multi-disc box sets on the market lol
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Reply #15 posted 07/13/21 8:39pm

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SoulAlive said:

It’s just a shame that the Commodores’ catalog is being neglected.It's not like their music wasn’t popular.They were HUGE in the late 70s! I can name numerous lesser bands and artists who have big,multi-disc box sets on the market lol

But are they on Motown? Hip-O was doing the deluxe albums & 2 albums on 1 CD for Motown, but I think Hip-O has been inactive for awhile now. There's also the case that I think the Commodores with JD Nicholas might have some issues with the former members. Or at least Walter Orange does. Lionel said once that he wanted to reunite and do a tour, but Walter declined in a statement. At this point JD has been in the band longer than any of the 3 living former members.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #16 posted 07/13/21 9:06pm

SoulAlive

I just recall hearing about a multi-disc Debbie Gibson box set…and wasn’t she pretty much a one-album wonder? lol :falloff:

anyway,hopefully we’ll hear about some great new box sets coming soon.These sets make excellent Christmas gifts.
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Reply #17 posted 07/13/21 9:46pm

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SoulAlive said:

I just recall hearing about a multi-disc Debbie Gibson box set…and wasn’t she pretty much a one-album wonder? lol falloff anyway,hopefully we’ll hear about some great new box sets coming soon.These sets make excellent Christmas gifts.

Her 2nd album Electric Youth was a hit. Debbie has been on popular shows like Dancing With The Stars, so new audiences have seen her. The Commodores hasn't had much mainstream recognition since Nightshift. Lionel has been seen by new younger audiences as the father of Nicole Richie, being a host of American Idol and releasing a duets album with current country stars. Hello is also a popular meme. I don't think how many albums an act released is necessarily a indicator of anything. I think The Sex Pistols only have 1 album, yet they often made the Top 10 best albums in Rolling Stone. Jimi Hendrix only released 3 albums while alive. He's still popular today and still gets written about in rock magazines.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #18 posted 07/14/21 12:48pm

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The Whispers 4-CD box set---covers their music from 1972 to 1987----

Four CD set that covers their Janus & Solar Records recording career spanning from 1971 through 1987. Includes all their biggest hits including their two R&B #1's "And The Beat Goes On" and "Rock Steady". And their Top 10 R&B Hits "One For The Money", "Make It With You", "(Let's Go) All The Way", "Lady", "It's A Love Thing", "In The Raw", "Tonight", "Keep On Lovin' Me" and "Contagious". The Whispers formed in 1963 in Watts, Los Angeles. The Band consisted of twin brothers Walter and Wallace "Scotty" Scott, Gary Harmon, Marcus Hutson and Nicholas Caldwell. Gary Harmon left the band and was replaced by Leavell Degree in 1973. The Whispers Also secured two Top 10 Hits in the U. K. and charted another seven tracks that are all featured in this Box Set. In 2013 they were presented a lifetime achievement award for their 50 years in the industry, and in 2014 The Whispers were inducted into the official R&B Music Hall Of Fame. This package includes comprehensive sleeve notes by Lois Wilson.

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Reply #19 posted 07/14/21 12:53pm

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that Whipers box set is a must-have biggrin I'm gonna have to order it.I have several of their albums but I wanna have a one-stop place for all of their music.The tracklist is superb and all of the big hits are accounted for.I just wish they had included the 1980 jam "Continental Shuffle".I don't think it was a single,but it's a popular track from the 1980 Imagination album.

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Reply #20 posted 07/15/21 8:19pm

SoulAlive

my Kleeer box set arrived today lol just in time for the weekend! Partytime,y’all biggrin
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Reply #21 posted 07/20/21 9:47pm

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SoulAlive said:


I just recall hearing about a multi-disc Debbie Gibson box set…and wasn’t she pretty much a one-album wonder? lol falloff anyway,hopefully we’ll hear about some great new box sets coming soon.These sets make excellent Christmas gifts.

Her 2nd album Electric Youth was a hit. Debbie has been on popular shows like Dancing With The Stars, so new audiences have seen her.




My point is that there are many more deserving artists and bands,with a string of successful albums,who should have some type of box set.It’s not about who is getting more mainstream attention these days.It’s about a catalog of music.

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Reply #22 posted 07/20/21 10:23pm

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SoulAlive said:

My point is that there are many more deserving artists and bands,with a string of successful albums,who should have some type of box set.It’s not about who is getting more mainstream attention these days.It’s about a catalog of music.

There's reissue labels like Numero & Light In the Attic that specialize in doing box sets or remastered albums of obscure acts that never had any hits. Just because somebody was popular at one time does not necessarily mean anything for today's audience. Like there's probably not many people who are checking for a Al Jolson box set. lol He was popular and had hits in his day. CDs in general don't sell in large quantities today, even for currently popular singers/rappers/bands. People stream music. With old R&B acts that were popular, many of their albums are out of print and only have a Greatest Hits/Best Of. Especially if they did not crossover. Or they're only available in Japan. If their albums are ignored, why would the labels put out a box set on them? They'll more likely do that with The Beatles or certain classic rock bands.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #23 posted 07/20/21 10:37pm

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Debbie Gibson was popular for two years in the late 80s.When the 80s ended,so did her musical career lol all I’m asking for is a Commodores box set…a successful band who really deserves one.I got all the albums but I want a nice,remastered set! biggrin Hell,I just purchased an 8-CD Kleeer box set! They are a great band but weren’t nearly as popular as the Commodores.
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Reply #24 posted 07/21/21 7:17am

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SoulAlive said:

Debbie Gibson was popular for two years in the late 80s.When the 80s ended,so did her musical career lol all I’m asking for is a Commodores box set…a successful band who really deserves one.I got all the albums but I want a nice,remastered set! biggrin Hell,I just purchased an 8-CD Kleeer box set! They are a great band but weren’t nearly as popular as the Commodores.

Did their original label put out the box set or was it put out by a Japan or UK company and has to be bought as an import? Were Kleer on Motown? Nobody deserves anything, labels put out stuff that they think will make money. Like this:

The original Commodores albums aren't hard to find and are cheap, even for an unopened copy. The original LPs don't need to be remastered, they were mastered for vinyl or tape when they were the main source for music. You can go crate digging like rap producers looking for records to sample. lol

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #25 posted 07/21/21 7:28am

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As far as Debbie Gibson goes, she was recently on a really successful tour. Can't say that for the Commodores (with JD Nicholas) or Kleer, but can be said for Lionel Richie.


You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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