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lastdecember

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A few Grammy takeaways

Just a few thoughts on this show, now I caught highlights and performances could really care less about winners and losers since I rarely listen to any of these artists for the most part. but a few takeaways.

Grammys can you figure out the best new artist criteria, you say it's you never could be on a record prior, now in some circumstances you make exceptions because of what the recording was released on, but Megan Thee Stallion is not new at all, this is not as bad when Lauryn Hill won the award but close.
Beyoncé that was really bad acting when you were getting that award making you the top receiving artist whatever. Also Grammy show how about more than fifteen seconds on Eddie Van Halen ? I mean he revolutionized the guitar almost if not more than Hendrix sorry but yes he fucking did. You couldn't get his son or some legendary thing together and play eruption ? You only had five months to figure it out. You had Brandi Carlisle perform for John Prine which I get Brandi is now the token country female or female musician that doesn't show her looks and ass off during the show so you can redeem yourself musicially. I get it it's nothing new been doing that for years. But I know a lot may have not known who Eddie Van Halen was but I can bet you no one knew who the F John prine was. And big thing, Billie Eilish I really do not care who you think should have won, now people have done this before, though it seems a little fake when it's a white artist saying it to an African American rapper, but I'm so sick of that posturing, also it's rude, you think she should have won but you're better than the others get F out of here, if you feel you know who should win, when the noms come out say, I would like my name removed and stay the F home. Sorry sick of these fake staged moments.


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Reply #1 posted 03/15/21 1:54pm

SoulAlive

If I were to watch a Grammy show nowadays,I wouldn’t even know who most of the artists are biggrin I stopped watching the Grammys over 10 years ago.
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Reply #2 posted 03/15/21 1:56pm

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^This^

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Reply #3 posted 03/15/21 2:35pm

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I barely know some of the acts and I tuned in thinking that i would fall asleep half way through. I expected to see an awkward COVID show but was so pleasantly surprised at how good the show was.

It was intimate and fresh. I watched the whole thing and was thoroughly entertained.

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I hope they produce more of these type of intimate awards shows going forward instead of the glossy over produced ones of the past.

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Reply #4 posted 03/15/21 3:23pm

CynicKill

v10letblues said:

I barely know some of the acts and I tuned in thinking that i would fall asleep half way through. I expected to see an awkward COVID show bt was so pleasantly surprised at how good the show was.

I was intimate and fresh. I watched the whole thing and was thoroughly entertained.

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I hope they produce more of these type of intamate awards shows going forward instead of the glossy over produced ones of the past.

I watched the whole damn thing. All 3:45 of it. But I typically do so..

It wasn't bad.

I liked that they highlighted small venues and maybe when all this is over they can do live remotes from all over the country with artists performing from where they started.

And they should always make the teacher award a big thing. I know this year was a mess but going forward they should get back into making it a big deal.

I agree the posturing from Billie Eilish was eyeroll inducing. How foolish would she had felt if Megan would've walked up to her and said ok I'll take it, thank you.

I guess she had the record of the year? It was THAT kind of year.

I know there's a bunch of Taylor Swift stans on this board but I just can't with her and the academy. Now she's slated to best Stevie Wonder for best album wins?!? And they didn't give Lana Del Rey her award last year and she truly deserved it. Leave it to me to always get mad at something with these awards and take them too seriously. Deep down it's obviously fun for me.

And congrats to Black Puma for the exposure. I was unfamiliar with them.

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Reply #5 posted 03/15/21 3:45pm

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If I were to watch a Grammy show nowadays,I wouldn’t even know who most of the artists are biggrin I stopped watching the Grammys over 10 years ago.

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I see it was the lowest-rated in history....not surprising, with all these bottom-of-the-barrel, so-called 'artists'. Cardi B? Mehan thee Stallion? They make Nicki Minaj sound intelligent. lol

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Reply #6 posted 03/15/21 3:56pm

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Every year the ratings for the Grammys seem to get lower and lower. I think the last Grammy show I watched was when they did the tribute to Sly Stone. All of the past artists that used to get me excited about watching the Grammys (and the "AMA"s) are sadly no longer around.

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Reply #7 posted 03/15/21 3:58pm

CynicKill

uPtoWnNY said:

SoulAlive said:

If I were to watch a Grammy show nowadays,I wouldn’t even know who most of the artists are biggrin I stopped watching the Grammys over 10 years ago.

nod

I see it was the lowest-rated in history....not surprising, with all these bottom-of-the-barrel, so-called 'artists'. Cardi B? Mehan thee Stallion? They make Nicki Minaj sound intelligent. lol

Apparently it was the most streamed show ever, and was broadcast over too many damn platforms to count and was trending on social media for 18 hours.

My takeaway?

People don't watch broadcast television anymore.

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Reply #8 posted 03/15/21 4:20pm

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Yeah, it was all woke n me too.

But, the most puzzelling aspect was, before the last award, there was a disclaimer stating, and i quote:

"The recording academy and cbs condemn and denounce all forms of racism (...), sexism (...), violence (...), anti-semitism and hate (...)..."

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Reply #9 posted 03/15/21 4:28pm

SoulAlive

uPtoWnNY said:



SoulAlive said:


If I were to watch a Grammy show nowadays,I wouldn’t even know who most of the artists are biggrin I stopped watching the Grammys over 10 years ago.


nod



I see it was the lowest-rated in history....not surprising, with all these bottom-of-the-barrel, so-called 'artists'. Cardi B? Mehan thee Stallion? They make Nicki Minaj sound intelligent. lol



I agree lol
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Reply #10 posted 03/15/21 4:39pm

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CynicKill said:

People don't watch broadcast television anymore.

That makes sense. Many of the shows on the major four networks seem to be targeted to older viewers with decades old programs like The Simpsons, Law & Order/NCIS whatever, The Young & The Restless, Days Of Our Lives, Let's Make A Deal, The Price Is Right, Celebrity Family Fued, America's Funniest Home Videos, etc. The newer singers/rappers/bands are more popular with streaming than with people buying records/CDs/tapes. So of course younger people are going to watch the Grammys as a stream. It's like what's the point of an MTV when you can watch videos anytime you want on Youtube as many times as you want. That's why they show reality shows instead of music videos

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Reply #11 posted 03/15/21 4:54pm

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How about the fact that you cater the show to a demographic that couldn't give two shits about watching a four hour award show it's that simple. There's a reason why artists basically only can pump out singles now, because that's what the listener can handle, look at the the album sales chart and the. Look a the billboard top 200, hmmm Alice Cooper and Willie Nelson have the number one and two selling album on the top 200 they are number 48 and 52, why hmmm maybe their fan base buys music still and doesn't rent it, it's that simple sorry, but I can't compare someone who has streaming singles numbers because technically if you listen to thirty seconds it counts as one stream, that's different than putting down and going to get it, it just is, it may not be how most do it now, but sorry a sale means tons more to a stream especially to an artists bank account. Also no one streamed this show fully let's look at that also, most streamed at a certain point or amount you watch counts as a stream, that's why I look at streaming numbers like steroid use in baseball back in the day, it's jacked up.


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Reply #12 posted 03/15/21 4:57pm

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nayroo2002 said:

Yeah, it was all woke n me too.

But, the most puzzelling aspect was, before the last award, there was a disclaimer stating, and i quote:

"The recording academy and cbs condemn and denounce all forms of racism (...), sexism (...), violence (...), anti-semitism and hate (...)..."


glad they posted it cause I thought they stood for it. Please with these statements, the nonsense that comes out of some of these artists mouth.


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Reply #13 posted 03/15/21 5:39pm

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I appreciate Eilish English tae but agree w/ OP n other posters comments on that moment, tacky. Exactly, what about the other artists? That Lipa girl was looking like rolleyes when they cut to her n she kept going on, but her grip on that shit (the award) wasn't budging for nothing lol, Megan was like f it I'll take it at 1 point lol. The only other part I peeped was the tail end of Swift's lip synced performance, she looked nice n I like that song n a lot of her work (folklore n evermore r my go to chill out albums atm), but as a Prince fan I can't get with no lip syncers sigh nuts.
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Reply #14 posted 03/15/21 6:08pm

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I appreciate Eilish English tae but agree w/ OP n other posters comments on that moment, tacky. Exactly, what about the other artists? That Lipa girl was looking like rolleyes when they cut to her n she kept going on, but her grip on that shit (the award) wasn't budging for nothing lol, Megan was like f it I'll take it at 1 point lol. The only other part I peeped was the tail end of Swift's lip synced performance, she looked nice n I like that song n a lot of her work (folklore n evermore r my go to chill out albums atm), but as a Prince fan I can't get with no lip syncers sigh nuts.


Her response just left a bad taste for me because It came off as others deserving others didn't and I make that call, which isn't cool obviously I don't think she's there too offend but you can easily make arguments for Post Malone that song is a million times bigger and Dua Lipa also gets quite a bit more play, another problem is way too many nominees these categories used to be five let's cut it back there were like eight nominated by the time they got to the last name I forgot who the other nominees were. As for Taylor I don't know if that was lip synched because they weren't album versions unless she recorded it prior as a performance and did it that way, though I will add Prince did quite a few lip synched appearances especially the Emancipation era, almost all his tv appearances were, his Chris rock tv show was, and they were very awkward, especially his performance of Emancipation I think it was on the essence awards truly horrific.

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Reply #15 posted 03/15/21 6:39pm

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SoulAlive said:

uPtoWnNY said:

nod

I see it was the lowest-rated in history....not surprising, with all these bottom-of-the-barrel, so-called 'artists'. Cardi B? Mehan thee Stallion? They make Nicki Minaj sound intelligent. lol

I agree lol

We've gone from Queen Latifah, Salt n Pepa, MC Lyte, Monie Love, etc., to THIS??? I hate sounding like some grouchy old timer, but come on. biggrin

Today at work I was listening to music from the summer of '82 (Just an Illusion, Show Me Where You're Coming From, I Specialize in Love, Murphy's Law, etc.). That shits on what I hear youngsters listening to now.

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Reply #16 posted 03/15/21 7:45pm

SoulAlive

uPtoWnNY said:



SoulAlive said:


uPtoWnNY said:



nod



I see it was the lowest-rated in history....not surprising, with all these bottom-of-the-barrel, so-called 'artists'. Cardi B? Mehan thee Stallion? They make Nicki Minaj sound intelligent. lol



I agree lol


We've gone from Queen Latifah, Salt n Pepa, MC Lyte, Monie Love, etc., to THIS??? I hate sounding like some grouchy old timer, but come on. biggrin



Today at work I was listening to music from the summer of '82 (Just an Illusion, Show Me Where You're Coming From, I Specialize in Love, Murphy's Law, etc.). That shits on what I hear youngsters listening to now.



I hear ya smile “Murphy’s Law” by Cheri.....hell yeah!! music I am forever listening to old school jams like that.I just can’t tolerate today’s crappy music.
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Reply #17 posted 03/15/21 7:46pm

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The decline in 1 year though. Last year it got a 5.4 rating among adults 18 - 49. This year a 2.1. The music wasn’t better last year or the 19 ceremonies before.
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Reply #18 posted 03/15/21 8:26pm

Margot

They say it got 39 million viewers via streaming.

I think most of this is geared to young people.

I glance @ it for 2-3 minutes and move on.

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Reply #19 posted 03/15/21 8:29pm

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Hudson said:

The decline in 1 year though. Last year it got a 5.4 rating among adults 18 - 49. This year a 2.1. The music wasn’t better last year or the 19 ceremonies before.

A lot of states were on lockdown during the 2020 Grammy ceremony so I'm sure that helped in the ratings.

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Reply #20 posted 03/15/21 8:38pm

CynicKill

Margot said:

They say it got 39 million viewers via streaming.

I think most of this is geared to young people.

I glance @ it for 2-3 minutes and move on.

Like lastdecember said I'm curious as to how they count the streaming.

If they count it by the hour then that's pretty impressive.

As someone who the ratings would consider an old fogey I'd kinda hate to see them go.

Me at this stage being more curious about pop music than an actual fan it's something I'll always look at or at least pop in on to see what's happening and complain.

But if they get rid of it then what? I know it's not important but it at the very least can be entertaining.

I know there's a lot of "entertainment" out there but honestly there really wasn't anything else on worth watching, so why get rid of something that is a once a year event?

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Reply #21 posted 03/15/21 9:41pm

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They had some Wet A** P***y on the Grammys!!!!

lol lol lol

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Reply #22 posted 03/15/21 10:09pm

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CynicKill said:

Margot said:

They say it got 39 million viewers via streaming.

I think most of this is geared to young people.

I glance @ it for 2-3 minutes and move on.

Like lastdecember said I'm curious as to how they count the streaming.

If they count it by the hour then that's pretty impressive.

As someone who the ratings would consider an old fogey I'd kinda hate to see them go.

Me at this stage being more curious about pop music than an actual fan it's something I'll always look at or at least pop in on to see what's happening and complain.

But if they get rid of it then what? I know it's not important but it at the very least can be entertaining.

I know there's a lot of "entertainment" out there but honestly there really wasn't anything else on worth watching, so why get rid of something that is a once a year event?

I guess I don't care too much one way or the other. It took me awhile to register the decline of the Grammy's because it used to be so important and truly meaningful, so I kept giving it chances.

I think the last Grammy nite I remember was in 2008 when Amy Winehouse toook so many awards. I was a big fan.

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Reply #23 posted 03/16/21 7:27am

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Nice to hear the show wasn't bad.

I'm not up in arms over the results like I would have been in years passed but I'm rolling my eyes at some of the winners Beyonce tying Quincy, Taylor winning yet another AotY; unsurprising but still... :roll:

I ended up missing Silk Sonic's performance but I saw it post-show and if I didn't know any better, would have thought it was an alternate music video so I didn't miss anything. Caught part of what I later found out to be their Little Richard tribute though and that was the extent of my viewing experience.
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Reply #24 posted 03/16/21 8:14am

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It was an OK show better than previous it seem like they listened when female artist spoke last year and venue owner was a cool add. Bruno did a good job on Little Richard and and glad Fiona won two awards. Haha th
that blond with looks lip synching what a 😲.
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Reply #25 posted 03/16/21 10:34am

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SoulAlive said:

uPtoWnNY said:

nod

I see it was the lowest-rated in history....not surprising, with all these bottom-of-the-barrel, so-called 'artists'. Cardi B? Mehan thee Stallion? They make Nicki Minaj sound intelligent. lol

I agree lol

Yes, I agree too.

I think I've seen Real porn which was less porn than that WAP video biggrin

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Reply #26 posted 03/16/21 10:36am

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uPtoWnNY said:

SoulAlive said:

uPtoWnNY said: I agree lol

We've gone from Queen Latifah, Salt n Pepa, MC Lyte, Monie Love, etc., to THIS??? I hate sounding like some grouchy old timer, but come on. biggrin

No, you're right. It's true.

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Reply #27 posted 03/16/21 10:59am

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I don't think ratings mean much in the age of a youtube, twitter or tik-tok link.

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jaawwnn said:

I don't think ratings mean much in the age of a youtube, twitter or tik-tok link.

nope!

i just found a d/l somewhere in shitty quality to match the shitty content.

there were some funny spots, though!

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Reply #29 posted 03/16/21 1:03pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

SoulAlive said:

If I were to watch a Grammy show nowadays,I wouldn’t even know who most of the artists are biggrin I stopped watching the Grammys over 10 years ago.

nod

I see it was the lowest-rated in history....not surprising, with all these bottom-of-the-barrel, so-called 'artists'. Cardi B? Mehan thee Stallion? They make Nicki Minaj sound intelligent. lol

^^^^^

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