hollywood0024 said:

I wonder why he didn't tour for Off The Wall and Thriller. Anyone know?

He put out "Triumph" with his brothers in 1980 and in 1981, they put out a live album so I assume that he toured with his brothers.

SoulAlive said:

hollywood0024 said:

I wish MJ would have put out more albums. Anyone know why he didn't do more albums?

I think a lot of people don't know that Jermaine has released more albums than Mike & Janet.

MickyDolenz said:

Off The Wall

Triumph

Jacksons Live

Destiny

Thriller

Outside of a few tracks here and there, he lost me with Bad and the others

hollywood0024 said:

I wonder why he didn't tour for Off The Wall and Thriller. Anyone know?

He was still part of The Jacksons. Material for Off The Wall padded The Triumph Tour set list. That tour was released on a live album. "Off The Wall," "She's Out Of My Life," "Rock With You," "Don't Stop 'Till You Get Enough," "Workin' Day and Night" were in the show.

If he toured exclusively for OTW, it would've been a short show. Or it would've been 70% Jackson 5 material and 30% OTW. He just didn't have enough under his belt to do a full show. Not one of MJ calibur. He wasn't going to build a show on material from Ben, Forever Michael, Music and Me, Got To Be There, etc. MJ was awlays more interested in the here and now, the new material. I would've LOL'd had he toured with all that old Motown shit and tried to highlight OTW around it. Hell, Janet didn't tour even after releasing 3 solo records. She didn't tour until Rhythm Nation 1814.

The Victory Tour highlighted Thriller material, but mostly "Beat It," "Billie Jean," "Human Nature," and "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'."

The BAD Tour felt right as a first for him as a solo artist. He had two huge albums under his belt. BAD would go on to release as many #1s as Thriller (if not more, I forget). Strangely, "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" and "Human Nature" didn't fare as well on US charts as previous songs. I think it's was, what I call, Thriller fatigue. It permeated radio and frankly something like Purple Rain or Like A Virgin was a welcome break. But "Thriller" shot to #1. All the other singles landed somewhere on one or more US charts. BAD, likewise, started with #1s, but floundered later. "Liberian Girl" didn't even chart.

But with all that behind him, that was a great platform on which to build his first solo tour. And while there were more Bad and Thriller songs to be had, he still (and forever) used the basic ass blueprint of previous Jacksons tours. New song, couple of old songs, new song, new song, ballad, J5 medley, etc etc.

MickyDolenz said:

hollywood0024 said:

I wish MJ would have put out more albums. Anyone know why he didn't do more albums?

I think a lot of people don't know that Jermaine has released more albums than Mike & Janet.

They do, maybe? But Jermaine, I believe, was more about getting thru that Motown time for him, supporting his family, etc. I don't know how well any of those albums sold or whatever, but he cranked them out. He had to make more to keep money flowing. They weren't selling like Thriller or Control would, or even a Jacksons record.

Michael was more about timing, making folks wait a while for the next thing. Hell, even Janet wasn't churning out records every 18 months. She took a much better nod from MJ than Jermaine when it came to releasing records. Jermaine released albums year after year after year, once two in a year. Is it spectacular material? Eeeehhhhh.

TrivialPursuit said:

Michael was more about timing, making folks wait a while for the next thing. Hell, even Janet wasn't churning out records every 18 months. She took a much better nod from MJ than Jermaine when it came to releasing records. Jermaine released albums year after year after year, once two in a year. Is it spectacular material? Eeeehhhhh.

Because he made that Thriller money. He could afford not to do anything. From 1969 to 1982, Mike was on an album every year, multiple albums in some cases during the Jackson 5 days on Motown. He also had guest appearances on others records during that time (Stevie Wonder, Kenny Loggins, Minnie Riperton, Roberta Flack, etc). The brothers toured more often in the 1970s too.

vainandy said:

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PatrickS77 said:

JayCrawford said:

PatrickS77 said:

Yeah. And in that regard he did better than Prince.

Now I wouldn't go that far now lol. Prince throughout the 80s was ridiculous. Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain, SOTT are considered are considered some of the best albums of all time. But after the 80s yeah I'd give it to Michael Jackson. Prince in the 90s was a joke

There is way less filler material on MJ albums than on Prince albums. And Thriller and Bad are also among the best albums of all time.

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alphastreet said:

hollywood0024 said:

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RODSERLING said:

ET storybook?! It s not a music album

An album is an album. You can go to the record store and buy a record/tape of stand up comedy, speeches, poetry, sound effects, etc. The Grammys give out an award for spoken word albums. The OP does not say "music album", it says rank his albums. E.T. is an album.

EmmaMcG said:

MickyDolenz said:

RODSERLING said:

RODSERLING said:

So a talking book is better for you than half the discography of MJ, including his masterpiece History? Wow.

Yes it is since that's where I put it.

MickyDolenz said:

RODSERLING said:

So a talking book is better for you than half the discography of MJ, including his masterpiece History? Wow.

Yes it is since that's where I put it.

Says the guy who puts Jacksons albums in a post about MJ solo albums.

vainandy said:

hollywood0024 said:

I wish MJ would have put out more albums. Anyone know why he didn't do more albums? Especially would have been awesome if he put out 1 between Thriller and Bad.

From what I remember, he was one of the first to milk an album for all it was worth before releasing another one. Back then, most artists made an album per year. Every now and then, they may have skipped a year, but most of them put out an album almost every year. Even Michael himself, between "Off The Wall" and "Thriller", he had an album with his brothers. I think the mass success of "Thriller" is what ruined him. They drug that album out for so long. Other artists that had albums come out the same time as "Thriller" already had another album out before they stopped milking it. Then he got to where every time he put an album out, he just had to get all these damn guest artists on it so I'm sure that took time too.

i agree ,he didn't have balls to develop as an artist,he become obssesed with selling more units of every new release than Thriller.The only thing changing was that

ballads got more cheesy,rock songs got heavier,beats go bigger

so going to extreme was what Mike was aiming for,and he didn't have

a home studio.how strange is that?

And how come he never wanted to learn an instrument?imagine what a funky keyboard or guitar player he could have been

thebanishedone said:

alphastreet said:

thebanishedone said:

i agree ,he didn't have balls to develop as an artist,he become obssesed with selling more units of every new release than Thriller.The only thing changing was that

ballads got more cheesy,rock songs got heavier,beats go bigger

so going to extreme was what Mike was aiming for,and he didn't have

a home studio.how strange is that?

And how come he never wanted to learn an instrument?imagine what a funky keyboard or guitar player he could have been

I guess he was formulatic since thriller, but still great music came out of it. He was credited with instruments on blood on the dance floor and unbreslable though I think it was probably just for percussion and playing some keyboard with direction

but everytime see Michael get a credit for playing instrument you also see like 3 or 4 additional players listed so even if he played you don't know which part.

George Michael played synth on Everything She Wants and he was the only synth player on the song

so you can tell how good he is,but Michael?

He is credited with playing guitar on Morphine along with Slash.

TrivialPursuit said:

MickyDolenz said:

I think a lot of people don't know that Jermaine has released more albums than Mike & Janet.

They do, maybe? But Jermaine, I believe, was more about getting thru that Motown time for him, supporting his family, etc. I don't know how well any of those albums sold or whatever, but he cranked them out. He had to make more to keep money flowing. They weren't selling like Thriller or Control would, or even a Jacksons record.

Michael was more about timing, making folks wait a while for the next thing. Hell, even Janet wasn't churning out records every 18 months. She took a much better nod from MJ than Jermaine when it came to releasing records. Jermaine released albums year after year after year, once two in a year. Is it spectacular material? Eeeehhhhh.

She was more into TV back then. "Good Times", "Different Strokes", and "Fame".

alphastreet said:

hollywood0024 said:

What do you think of the Victory album?

I don’t it has its good moments but is not the jacksons best work. Triumph was their last great album

Talk about a disappointment. Michael was at the biggest point of his career at this time and they had hyped that album up so much prior to that release and then when we got it, most of the album was just blah.