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Reply #30 posted 10/22/20 1:11am

SoulAlive

hell yeah! Just the other day,I was bumping "School Boy Crush" in my car biggrin headbang AWB were a very credible funk band.

phunkdaddy said:


Average White Band have quite a few funky numbers that would check Tom Tom Club.
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Reply #31 posted 10/22/20 1:27am

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MickyDolenz said:



phunkdaddy said:


We won't even start with KC and The Sunshine Band

Technically, that's a black band with a white singer. A better example would be the Muscle Shoals studio band (known as The Swampers) who played on a lot of R&B and soul records, such as Aretha Franklin's late 1960s albums and also some Wilson Pickett & Staple Singers stuff. I'll Take You There and Aretha's Respect &Think, that's The Swampers playing. There's also Dennis Coffey & Bob Babbitt who were in Motown's Funk Brothers. Dennis had a few hits himself like Scorpio. The jazz pianist Bob James had a lot of acts sample his music, like on Run-DMC's Peter Piper.



I would still give Harry Wayne Casey his props. He's the brainchild behind the band. He wrote and produced the money.
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Reply #32 posted 10/22/20 1:29am

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SoulAlive said:

hell yeah! Just the other day,I was bumping "School Boy Crush" in my car biggrin headbang AWB were a very credible funk band.





phunkdaddy said:



Average White Band have quite a few funky numbers that would check Tom Tom Club.


Check out some of their live clips from the 70's on YouTube.
They were killing it. They had some smooth ballads too.
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Reply #33 posted 10/24/20 12:36am

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Lol Oh, so we're gonna act like the late great Teens Marie didn't produce some of the most hard-hitting funkiest gems of all time, including SQUARE BIZ and I NEED YOUR LOVIN.'
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Reply #34 posted 10/24/20 5:22am

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No, they didn't.

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Reply #35 posted 10/24/20 12:32pm

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Lol Oh, so we're gonna act like the late great Teens Marie didn't produce some of the most hard-hitting funkiest gems of all time, including SQUARE BIZ and I NEED YOUR LOVIN.'
[Edited 10/24/20 0:37am]


I thought of square biz and mentioned it earlier
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Reply #36 posted 10/24/20 1:36pm

SoulAlive

phunkdaddy said:

SoulAlive said:

hell yeah! Just the other day,I was bumping "School Boy Crush" in my car biggrin headbang AWB were a very credible funk band.

Check out some of their live clips from the 70's on YouTube. They were killing it. They had some smooth ballads too.

nod their 1976 hit "A Love Of Your Own" is one of my favorites.....a truly soulful,hypnotic slow groove!

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Reply #37 posted 10/24/20 1:40pm

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Reply #38 posted 10/24/20 1:50pm

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What about her?

https://www.youtube.com/w...ki6GQRYVaY

Hell No... being an EW&F fanatic, i know very well who Allee Wilis is, and what is this funkiest song that SHE HERSELF wrote?

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Reply #39 posted 10/24/20 5:06pm

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U wish..........

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Reply #40 posted 10/24/20 5:24pm

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Reply #41 posted 10/24/20 10:50pm

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RJOrion said:

CynicKill said:

What about her?

https://www.youtube.com/w...ki6GQRYVaY

Hell No... being an EW&F fanatic, i know very well who Allee Wilis is, and what is this funkiest song that SHE HERSELF wrote?


She was so awesome.

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Reply #42 posted 10/25/20 2:24pm

RJOrion

TrivialPursuit said:



RJOrion said:




CynicKill said:


What about her?


https://www.youtube.com/w...ki6GQRYVaY





Hell No... being an EW&F fanatic, i know very well who Allee Wilis is, and what is this funkiest song that SHE HERSELF wrote?




She was so awesome.




great songwriter and collaborator... wouldnt say shes written any funky stuff... co-writing "September"with Maurice White is probably what shes known best for...legendary, iconic song no doubt... but no ones ever accused it of being "funky"
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Reply #43 posted 10/25/20 10:43pm

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RJOrion said:

TrivialPursuit said:


She was so awesome.

great songwriter and collaborator... wouldnt say shes written any funky stuff... co-writing "September"with Maurice White is probably what shes known best for...legendary, iconic song no doubt... but no ones ever accused it of being "funky"


Yeah, she's definitely had her fingers in many o'pie of hit songs we all know. She was definitely more of a lyricist than a music writer. But man, could she craft a melody and lyric.


My thoughts are with you
Holding hands with your heart to see you
Only blue talk and love
Remember, how we knew love was here to stay

I certainly didn't know what blue talk was as a kid, and didn't pay much attention to it later on in my 20s. But it's sort of a deep and slightly suggestive love song for the 70s.

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Reply #44 posted 10/26/20 5:58pm

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While we're on the subject, why is it that white Brits know how to emulate/convey soul and funk more than most white Americans?

I know in the UK, while racism was/is still very much a thing, black artists and black music seems to be far more respected, acknowledged and even revered by the general public as well as many of the notable stars to hail from there.

I'm just remembering the Northern Soul scene from the 60s and 70s and despite how prevalent black music (by black artists) was at that time here in the States, we never had a widespread hardcore movement anywhere here where white teenagers and young adults played the most obscure of black music and danced all night long to it.
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Reply #45 posted 10/27/20 3:01am

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TrivialPursuit said:

"Genius of Love" is funky-adjacent.

I believe some of the funkiest basslines were written by a little man named Rod Temperton. He wrote for Heatwave (and was the only white guy in the band for a long while), including "Boogie Nights," "The Groove Line," and "Always and Forever." He also wrote the title tracks for MJ's Off The Wall and Thriller. From wikipedia:


Temperton wrote successfully for other musicians, his hits including


"Stomp!" for The Brothers Johnson;


George Benson's "Give Me the Night";


"Baby, Come to Me" for Patti Austin and James Ingram;


"Love Is in Control (Finger on the Trigger)" for Donna Summer;


and "Yah Mo B There" for James Ingram and Michael McDonald.



He also wrote for Herbie Hancock, The Manhattan Transfer, Mica Paris, Rufus and Chaka Khan, and many others.





That's nothing to sneeze at, there! That's some funky stuff! So for me, Rod Temperton, by far.

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There is soul, and then there is funk. Many can claim titles to blue-eyed soul and white chocolate wizardry but if you are talking funky, Rod Temperton is an underrated and criminally unrecognized funk legend. Just the bass lines on two of his many hits, Stomp and Always and Forever should end all debate.
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Reply #46 posted 10/27/20 9:36am

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MotownSubdivision said:

While we're on the subject, why is it that white Brits know how to emulate/convey soul and funk more than most white Americans? I know in the UK, while racism was/is still very much a thing, black artists and black music seems to be far more respected, acknowledged and even revered by the general public as well as many of the notable stars to hail from there. I'm just remembering the Northern Soul scene from the 60s and 70s and despite how prevalent black music (by black artists) was at that time here in the States, we never had a widespread hardcore movement anywhere here where white teenagers and young adults played the most obscure of black music and danced all night long to it.



Recently learned about this from a friend who was there (he's Asian if it matters) and it's amazing.

Just couldn't believe that I had never heard about it other than Gamble and Huff but it goes much deeper than that.

Just listened to the Masqueraders first album and I was hooked... music

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Reply #47 posted 10/27/20 4:17pm

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thebanishedone said:

alphastreet said:

Another one that came to mind was play that funky music

You know that Play That Funky Music is a ripoff of Slippery When Wet by The Commodores?

As a Young'n in the 70's, even I KNEW that Wild Cherry was JOCKIN' The Commodores! I said it then! And at 52 Years of Age now, I STILL say it!!!

lol lol lol

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Reply #48 posted 10/29/20 12:15am

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How about a Rock Group Band QUEEN's 1980 Hit Single 'Another One Bites The Dust'?! Anyone or Anybody?

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Reply #49 posted 10/29/20 5:07am

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samuelmcneal said:

How about a Rock Group Band QUEEN's 1980 Hit Single 'Another One Bites The Dust'?! Anyone or Anybody?

Funky and it did BIG business on the Soul chart back in the day (when a white artist crossing over mattered) but I wouldn't even put it in the Top 10 of funkiest white songs.
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Reply #50 posted 10/29/20 5:40am

RJOrion

MotownSubdivision said:

samuelmcneal said:

How about a Rock Group Band QUEEN's 1980 Hit Single 'Another One Bites The Dust'?! Anyone or Anybody?

Funky and it did BIG business on the Soul chart back in the day (when a white artist crossing over mattered) but I wouldn't even put it in the Top 10 of funkiest white songs.

Top 10 Funkiest White Songs?..no black bands or black producers or black rhythm sections...off the top of my head:

1. "Bennie & The Jets" - Elton John

2. "Voices Inside My Head" - The Police

3. 'What A Fool Believes" - The Doobie Brothers

4. "Make Me Smile" - Chicago

5. "I Love You More Today Than Yesterday" - Spiral Staircase

6. "Another One Bites The Dust" - Queen

7. "Cut The Cake" - Average White Band

8. "Kashmir" - Led Zeppelin

9. "Dont Stand So Close To Me" - The Police

10. "White Room" - Cream

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Reply #51 posted 10/29/20 5:43am

Margot

woogiebear said:

thebanishedone said:

You know that Play That Funky Music is a ripoff of Slippery When Wet by The Commodores?

As a Young'n in the 70's, even I KNEW that Wild Cherry was JOCKIN' The Commodores! I said it then! And at 52 Years of Age now, I STILL say it!!!

lol lol lol

I agree, though it was kind of cool the lead singer could sing like that.

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Reply #52 posted 10/29/20 7:48am

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samuelmcneal said:

How about a Rock Group Band QUEEN's 1980 Hit Single 'Another One Bites The Dust'?! Anyone or Anybody?

This kinda sounds like Christmas Rappin' by Kurtis Blow which came out in 1979.

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Reply #53 posted 10/29/20 8:22am

RJOrion

MickyDolenz said:

samuelmcneal said:

How about a Rock Group Band QUEEN's 1980 Hit Single 'Another One Bites The Dust'?! Anyone or Anybody?

This kinda sounds like Christmas Rappin' by Kurtis Blow which came out in 1979.

oh shit...i never caught that.

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Reply #54 posted 10/29/20 8:33am

Krid

Listen to DR. JOHN and I guarantee y'all your head'll be nodding funky mumbo time

And HALL & OATES sure'nuff knew how to put on a groove

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Reply #55 posted 10/29/20 8:51am

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Such utter bs. Nothing touches this.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #56 posted 10/29/20 9:06am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Nothing touches this.

Mariah Carey, ODB, & Puffy P. Diddy touched it. "Whatcha gonna do when you get out of jail? I'm gon' do a remix"

#bhg from B|H|G

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Reply #57 posted 10/29/20 9:18am

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MickyDolenz said:



samuelmcneal said:


How about a Rock Group Band QUEEN's 1980 Hit Single 'Another One Bites The Dust'?! Anyone or Anybody?



This kinda sounds like Christmas Rappin' by Kurtis Blow which came out in 1979.



The baseline is actually influenced by Chic's "Good Times."
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Reply #58 posted 10/29/20 12:56pm

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ReddBlitz said:

The baseline is actually influenced by Chic's "Good Times."

It might be influenced by that, the same could be said for Kurtis' song. But Another One Bites The Dust bass sounds identical to Christmas Rappin' like Rappers Delight sounds identical to Good Times. although it was replayed by the Sugarhill Records house band. Christmas Rappin' was later sampled on the 1990s song Too Close by Next.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #59 posted 10/29/20 2:09pm

Margot

Little off-topic, but I thought Mitch Ryder,(Detroit Wheels), had some soul, for a white guy.

[Edited 10/29/20 14:11pm]

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