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Rolling Stone releases new, updated 500 greatest albums list. First time since 2003

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Reply #1 posted 09/23/20 9:12am

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A more apt title would be "500 albums we'll give credit to from artists we fawn over ad nauseam or are forced to begrudingly acknowledge due to popular demand."

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Reply #2 posted 09/23/20 9:21am

JoeTyler

And finally it has happened: the Rolling Stone magazine is oficially dead.

The old grandpa, who always bragged about 65-85, the best era ever (and he was right), but who progressively embraced (some of the) '90s and even early '00s music (looking hip in the process) has finally died and at the helm there's a hipster millenial that downgrades the Beatles, banishes the prophet (Dylan) and vastly overrates 2000-2019 music.

RIP Rolling Stone magazine.
[Edited 9/23/20 9:26am]
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Reply #3 posted 09/23/20 9:25am

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MattyJam said:

A more apt title would be "500 albums we'll give credit to from artists we fawn over ad nauseam or are forced to begrudingly acknowledge due to popular demand."

Not true if you take a moment to look at who voted


https://www.rollingstone....t-1062225/

It's a good snapshot of tastes in the general pop world of 2020, including some serious anomalies that would only appear in this year and no other.

My only major complaint would be how US-centric it is, but Rolling Stone is a US magazine so it makes sense.

As I said in the other thread, it's a thankless task.

[Edited 9/23/20 9:26am]

"I think people ought to know that we're anti-fascist, we're anti-violence, we're anti-racist and we're pro-creative. We're against ignorance."
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Reply #4 posted 09/23/20 9:41am

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jaawwnn said:

MattyJam said:

A more apt title would be "500 albums we'll give credit to from artists we fawn over ad nauseam or are forced to begrudingly acknowledge due to popular demand."

Not true if you take a moment to look at who voted


https://www.rollingstone....t-1062225/

It's a good snapshot of tastes in the general pop world of 2020, including some serious anomalies that would only appear in this year and no other.

My only major complaint would be how US-centric it is, but Rolling Stone is a US magazine so it makes sense.

As I said in the other thread, it's a thankless task.

[Edited 9/23/20 9:26am]


Yeah I thought "wtf" at Harry Styles too. lol

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Reply #5 posted 09/23/20 9:59am

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MattyJam said:

jaawwnn said:

Not true if you take a moment to look at who voted


https://www.rollingstone....t-1062225/

It's a good snapshot of tastes in the general pop world of 2020, including some serious anomalies that would only appear in this year and no other.

My only major complaint would be how US-centric it is, but Rolling Stone is a US magazine so it makes sense.

As I said in the other thread, it's a thankless task.

[Edited 9/23/20 9:26am]


Yeah I thought "wtf" at Harry Styles too. lol

lolol
Also, THREE Fiona Apple albums and nothing by, say, Nick Cave. or Soundgarden. or ZZ Top. or Frank Zappa? or Thin Lizzy??

Personally i'm a bigger fan of Fiona than any of the above but come on now, this is just the big Fiona Apple push of 2020.


[Edited 9/23/20 9:59am]

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Reply #6 posted 09/23/20 11:19am

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jaawwnn said:

MattyJam said:


Yeah I thought "wtf" at Harry Styles too. lol

lolol
Also, THREE Fiona Apple albums and nothing by, say, Nick Cave. or Soundgarden. or ZZ Top. or Frank Zappa? or Thin Lizzy??

Personally i'm a bigger fan of Fiona than any of the above but come on now, this is just the big Fiona Apple push of 2020.


[Edited 9/23/20 9:59am]


Yes, that stood out to me too.

Also, did I miss it, or were The Smiths nowhere to be found?

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Reply #7 posted 09/23/20 11:25am

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Nah, the Queen is Dead is on there somewhere.

"I think people ought to know that we're anti-fascist, we're anti-violence, we're anti-racist and we're pro-creative. We're against ignorance."
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Reply #8 posted 09/23/20 12:19pm

RJOrion

they tried too hard to show love to R&B and hiphop and ended up with some strange choices... im not mad at them for holding "Whats Goin On", "Purple Rain", and "It Takes A Nation of Millions", in high regard, tho..

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Reply #9 posted 09/23/20 12:41pm

RJOrion

10. Lauryn Hill - Miseducation of Lauryn Hill

17. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

19. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly

these 3 lps have NO business being ranked that high... in no way shape or form... MBDTF isnt even Kanye's best LP, and its arguably his worst... Kendrick Lamar's lp is some fakely deep gibberish, spit by a dude that sounds like Black Bugs Bunny, over some fairly decent production.... Lauryn Hill has been overrated since Day 1 and has about 3 good songs over the course of her entire career...and these lps are ranked higher than any lps by Earth Wind & Fire?...or Prince? (besides P.R.)...or Rotary Connection?.. or Barry White?...or Ramsey Lewis?...or The Police?...or Nas?...or WuTang Clan?...or JayZ?...or Depeche Mode?...or Duncan Sheik?

GTFOH...who made this list, Bill Maher?...Jimmy Fallon?...Kim Kardashian?

in what world is MBDTF a better album than "Stone Jam" by Slave?

in what world is Miseducation of Lauryn Hill a better album than Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, by Elton John?

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Reply #10 posted 09/23/20 12:45pm

RJOrion

jaawwnn said:

MattyJam said:


Yeah I thought "wtf" at Harry Styles too. lol

lolol
Also, THREE Fiona Apple albums and nothing by, say, Nick Cave. or Soundgarden. or ZZ Top. or Frank Zappa? or Thin Lizzy??

Personally i'm a bigger fan of Fiona than any of the above but come on now, this is just the big Fiona Apple push of 2020.


[Edited 9/23/20 9:59am]

i just noticed that, too.... im damn near a Fiona Apple groupie, and i was shocked to see her represented so heavily...youre probably right...her people have apparently given some "gifts" to the Rolling Stone staff

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Reply #11 posted 09/23/20 3:46pm

LouieLestate

So we decided to remake our greatest albums list from scratch. To do so, we received and tabulated Top 50 Albums lists from more than 300 artists, p...ry figures (from radio programmers to label heads, like Atlantic Records CEO Craig Kallman). The electorate includes Beyoncé, Taylor Swift, and Billie Eilish; rising artists like H.E.R., Tierra Whack, and Lindsey Jordan of Snail Mail; as well as veteran musicians, such as Adam Clayton and the Edge of U2, Raekwon of the Wu-Tang Clan, Gene Simmons, and Stevie Nicks.

These 300 people can FALL FAST & DIE SLOW

"We're not hitchhiking anymore!....we're riding!!"
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Reply #12 posted 09/23/20 4:02pm

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LouieLestate said:

So we decided to remake our greatest albums list from scratch. To do so, we received and tabulated Top 50 Albums lists from more than 300 artists, p...ry figures (from radio programmers to label heads, like Atlantic Records CEO Craig Kallman). The electorate includes Beyoncé, Taylor Swift, and Billie Eilish; rising artists like H.E.R., Tierra Whack, and Lindsey Jordan of Snail Mail; as well as veteran musicians, such as Adam Clayton and the Edge of U2, Raekwon of the Wu-Tang Clan, Gene Simmons, and Stevie Nicks.

These 300 people can FALL FAST & DIE SLOW

But doesn't this list and the one before that show that the whole "What are the best 500 albums of all time" lists/discussions is subjective, tho? lol

I mean, ask a group of people "what are, in your opinion, the best albums of all time? Cut it down to ten, maybe five." You'll see very different answers and you could argue the different points ad nauseam. lol

Hell take Prince.org as an example, people can't agree on his best album ever, let alone a top five. cause everybody's taste is different. Which is why some LOVE Rave, and some absolutely hate it. Such is life.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."

Poppys, Shanon319, Number23, Kares. #lifttheban
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Reply #13 posted 09/24/20 9:02am

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JoeTyler said:

And finally it has happened: the Rolling Stone magazine is oficially dead. The old grandpa, who always bragged about 65-85, the best era ever (and he was right), but who progressively embraced (some of the) '90s and even early '00s music (looking hip in the process) has finally died and at the helm there's a hipster millenial that downgrades the Beatles, banishes the prophet (Dylan) and vastly overrates 2000-2019 music. RIP Rolling Stone magazine. [Edited 9/23/20 9:26am]

TRANSLATION: ALL albums from the 21st century should stay disqualified from every music magazines' Top 500 Greatest albums of all times list until the year 2050, at least!

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OK Joe, it's been noticed. lol

[Edited 9/24/20 9:02am]

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Reply #14 posted 09/24/20 7:45pm

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10. Lauryn Hill - Miseducation of Lauryn Hill

17. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

19. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly

these 3 lps have NO business being ranked that high... in no way shape or form... MBDTF isnt even Kanye's best LP, and its arguably his worst... Kendrick Lamar's lp is some fakely deep gibberish, spit by a dude that sounds like Black Bugs Bunny, over some fairly decent production.... Lauryn Hill has been overrated since Day 1 and has about 3 good songs over the course of her entire career...and these lps are ranked higher than any lps by Earth Wind & Fire?...or Prince? (besides P.R.)...or Rotary Connection?.. or Barry White?...or Ramsey Lewis?...or The Police?...or Nas?...or WuTang Clan?...or JayZ?...or Depeche Mode?...or Duncan Sheik?

GTFOH...who made this list, Bill Maher?...Jimmy Fallon?...Kim Kardashian?

in what world is MBDTF a better album than "Stone Jam" by Slave?

in what world is Miseducation of Lauryn Hill a better album than Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, by Elton John?

You're just a dumb mf. Fakely deep gibberis? gtfo troll. They left out some albums they had before like Music from Madonna and Fresh from Sly and The Family and some others I can't remember.

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Reply #15 posted 09/24/20 8:11pm

beast44

I applaued them for trying to be inclusinve, but I honestly think companies should stay away from these lists cuz everyone will always disagree. I'm fine with looking at Billboard's lists honestly. They have at least SOME form of accuracy and a way to measure which albums are higher and lower. I know I know it's only based on the popularity of the albums, but it's at least one sure way to measure them.

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Reply #16 posted 09/25/20 3:49am

JoeTyler

TonyVanDam said:

JoeTyler said:

And finally it has happened: the Rolling Stone magazine is oficially dead. The old grandpa, who always bragged about 65-85, the best era ever (and he was right), but who progressively embraced (some of the) '90s and even early '00s music (looking hip in the process) has finally died and at the helm there's a hipster millenial that downgrades the Beatles, banishes the prophet (Dylan) and vastly overrates 2000-2019 music. RIP Rolling Stone magazine. [Edited 9/23/20 9:26am]

TRANSLATION: ALL albums from the 21st century should stay disqualified from every music magazines' Top 500 Greatest albums of all times list until the year 2050, at least!

.

OK Joe, it's been noticed. lol

[Edited 9/24/20 9:02am]

None of the albums of 2000-2019 rival the classics from 1967-1991. And you know it. At least the actual list from 2004 made sense, despite the criticism of being dominated by caucasian male rockers.

Also, the order itself is incredibly stupid. They have placed 1995-2015 albums in the Top40 to appease the millenials. Millenial Stone Magazine. Kanye West (with 6 albums??? is he officially better than Public Enemy now?) and Taylor Swift are the worst offenders. None of the albums from Swift should be in the top500. By that logic, Come On Over by Twain should be in the Top20.

Anyway Tony, good to see you again. It's been a long time (I left the Internet after the double shock of 2016, Bowie-Prince RIP).

[Edited 9/25/20 3:58am]

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Reply #17 posted 09/25/20 4:50am

RJOrion

slyjackson said:



RJOrion said:


10. Lauryn Hill - Miseducation of Lauryn Hill


17. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy


19. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly




these 3 lps have NO business being ranked that high... in no way shape or form... MBDTF isnt even Kanye's best LP, and its arguably his worst... Kendrick Lamar's lp is some fakely deep gibberish, spit by a dude that sounds like Black Bugs Bunny, over some fairly decent production.... Lauryn Hill has been overrated since Day 1 and has about 3 good songs over the course of her entire career...and these lps are ranked higher than any lps by Earth Wind & Fire?...or Prince? (besides P.R.)...or Rotary Connection?.. or Barry White?...or Ramsey Lewis?...or The Police?...or Nas?...or WuTang Clan?...or JayZ?...or Depeche Mode?...or Duncan Sheik?




GTFOH...who made this list, Bill Maher?...Jimmy Fallon?...Kim Kardashian?




in what world is MBDTF a better album than "Stone Jam" by Slave?



in what world is Miseducation of Lauryn Hill a better album than Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, by Elton John?



You're just a dumb mf. Fakely deep gibberis? gtfo troll. They left out some albums they had before like Music from Madonna and Fresh from Sly and The Family and some others I can't remember.




triggered much?...what does that say about you, if the opinion of a socalled "troll" can cause that type of emotional reaction from you?... grow up, Queen
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Reply #18 posted 09/25/20 12:33pm

slyjackson

RJOrion said:

slyjackson said:

You're just a dumb mf. Fakely deep gibberis? gtfo troll. They left out some albums they had before like Music from Madonna and Fresh from Sly and The Family and some others I can't remember.

triggered much?...what does that say about you, if the opinion of a socalled "troll" can cause that type of emotional reaction from you?... grow up, Queen

Ignorance makes me this angry.

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Reply #19 posted 09/25/20 1:48pm

RJOrion

slyjackson said:

RJOrion said:

slyjackson said: triggered much?...what does that say about you, if the opinion of a socalled "troll" can cause that type of emotional reaction from you?... grow up, Queen

Ignorance makes me this angry.

Dont be so angry at yourself...its not healthy.

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Reply #20 posted 09/25/20 6:11pm

TonyVanDam

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JoeTyler said:

TonyVanDam said:

TRANSLATION: ALL albums from the 21st century should stay disqualified from every music magazines' Top 500 Greatest albums of all times list until the year 2050, at least!

.

OK Joe, it's been noticed. lol

[Edited 9/24/20 9:02am]

None of the albums of 2000-2019 rival the classics from 1967-1991. And you know it. At least the actual list from 2004 made sense, despite the criticism of being dominated by caucasian male rockers.

Also, the order itself is incredibly stupid. They have placed 1995-2015 albums in the Top40 to appease the millenials. Millenial Stone Magazine. Kanye West (with 6 albums??? is he officially better than Public Enemy now?) and Taylor Swift are the worst offenders. None of the albums from Swift should be in the top500. By that logic, Come On Over by Twain should be in the Top20.

Anyway Tony, good to see you again. It's been a long time (I left the Internet after the double shock of 2016, Bowie-Prince RIP).

[Edited 9/25/20 3:58am]

True that. nod

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Reply #21 posted 09/25/20 8:03pm

S2DG

Rolling Stone trolls music lovers again...

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Reply #22 posted 09/26/20 6:55am

CoolMF

Sorry, but can't be mad over What's Going On being named #1. Incredible audio experience with lyrics just as pertinent today as they were when the album came out.

Picket Lines

And Picket Signs

Don't punish me

With brutality

Come on and talk to me

So you can see

What's Going On

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Reply #23 posted 09/26/20 7:19am

RJOrion

CoolMF said:

Sorry, but can't be mad over What's Going On being named #1. Incredible audio experience with lyrics just as pertinent today as they were when the album came out.

Picket Lines

And Picket Signs

Don't punish me

With brutality

Come on and talk to me

So you can see

What's Going On

so true about the relevance of his lyrics then, today:

"Whats Goin On"

"Mercy Mercy Me"

"Whats Happenin Brother"

"Inner City Blues (Makes Me Wanna Holler)"

"Save The Children"

"God Is Love"

...songs with words from a Detroit prophet

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Reply #24 posted 09/26/20 11:12am

alphastreet

Not impressed with what they said about mj under the thriller description
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Reply #25 posted 09/26/20 5:25pm

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JoeTyler said:

TonyVanDam said:

TRANSLATION: ALL albums from the 21st century should stay disqualified from every music magazines' Top 500 Greatest albums of all times list until the year 2050, at least!

.

OK Joe, it's been noticed. lol

[Edited 9/24/20 9:02am]

None of the albums of 2000-2019 rival the classics from 1967-1991. And you know it. At least the actual list from 2004 made sense, despite the criticism of being dominated by caucasian male rockers.

Also, the order itself is incredibly stupid. They have placed 1995-2015 albums in the Top40 to appease the millenials. Millenial Stone Magazine. Kanye West (with 6 albums??? is he officially better than Public Enemy now?) and Taylor Swift are the worst offenders. None of the albums from Swift should be in the top500. By that logic, Come On Over by Twain should be in the Top20.

Anyway Tony, good to see you again. It's been a long time (I left the Internet after the double shock of 2016, Bowie-Prince RIP).

[Edited 9/25/20 3:58am]

TRUTH

6 albums by the overrated Kanye West??? What bs.

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Reply #26 posted 09/27/20 8:48pm

gandorb

Well, Rolling Stone was in dire need of some publicitiy and this gets some for them. No list will every satisfy most perople, nor should it. I am glad there is some really good music every year inluding the 2000s., and it should be represented in the chart. This doesn't mean that their choices would have necessarily been mine.

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Reply #27 posted 10/06/20 11:05am

beast44

This isn't a good list imo, but I am glad to see more representation of women and black artists. Thats all I'll say

[Edited 10/6/20 11:05am]

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Reply #28 posted 10/06/20 11:06am

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MattyJam said:

A more apt title would be "500 albums we'll give credit to from artists we fawn over ad nauseam or are forced to begrudingly acknowledge due to popular demand."

THIS

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Not enough Kate Bush hmph!

Keep Calm & Listen To Prince
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