rdhull said:

RJP1205 said:

Listened to Chaka's version and I don't get what all the fuss is about. It wasn't awful. It wasn't my fav version ever (that would be Whitney's superbowl performance) but it was not awful at all. I think people just like to complain about everything.

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Yeah, I don't get what the fuss is, either. Not the traditional way of singining it, but so what?

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She was off key on her runs but I heard worse

paligap said:

RJP1205 said:

Listened to Chaka's version and I don't get what all the fuss is about. It wasn't awful. It wasn't my fav version ever (that would be Whitney's superbowl performance) but it was not awful at all. I think people just like to complain about everything.

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Yeah, I don't get what the fuss is, either. Not the traditional way of singining it, but so what?

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HEY!!! After all these years I STILL listen to your mix!!!!

MickyDolenz said:

I wonder why nobody sings the verse about slaves.

Exactly. Fuck that song.

It's over, no more to see here. Geez, this board moves along at a snail's pace....so boring!

looby said:

kitbradley said:

This is america and Yvonne has the constitutional right to express her opinion about the song and how people of color have been and continue to be treated in this country if she wants. As far as Chaka promoting the so-called new album, to my knowledge, she hasn't said a word about it's release on March 13th so obviously she's not making these appearances to promote the PBS DVD/CD.

Yes this is America, and the constitutional right to express one's opinion works both ways! EVERYONE has a right to express their opinion, not just those that don't like it when an opinion is something they don't like or want to hear! And people need to stop with the accusation of racism, and calling everyone a racist for everything, it's gotten old, fast! Yes, people of color were treated badly in this country, but that was a long time ago, things have changed and continue to change! Black people aren't slaves anymore, and they don't put up with the shit our ancestors had to endure and put up with! I find that the ones who keep harping on racism and calling everyone a racist, are the ones that are keeping racism going, the ones who are really dividing people, and keeping races from moving on! Maybe that's the way some really want it, so they keep up the racist garbage, calling everyone and everything racist! People are getting sick of it!

This is actually the truth, but you get called a racist for even saying it by todays snowflakes.

mltijchr said:

looby said:

Yes this is America, and the constitutional right to express one's opinion works both ways! EVERYONE has a right to express their opinion, not just those that don't like it when an opinion is something they don't like or want to hear! And people need to stop with the accusation of racism, and calling everyone a racist for everything, it's gotten old, fast! Yes, people of color were treated badly in this country, but that was a long time ago, things have changed and continue to change! Black people aren't slaves anymore, and they don't put up with the shit our ancestors had to endure and put up with! I find that the ones who keep harping on racism and calling everyone a racist, are the ones that are keeping racism going, the ones who are really dividing people, and keeping races from moving on! Maybe that's the way some really want it, so they keep up the racist garbage, calling everyone and everything racist! People are getting sick of it!

based on your comment, Looby, it might or might not be of benefit to you to do a youtube search for Dr. Robin DiAngelo. granted, the best video from her (that I've seen so far) is the 1 that's like 1 hr 42 minutes long:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrOFpaB-PQI

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not to get into a big discussion of it here, but "racism" is a SYSTEM, it's not "specific acts of discrimination made only by 'overtly racist' people"

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racism & discrimination did not end - at all - upon the emancipation of the stolen Africans who, through slavery, infinitely built up the wealth of this country.

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that people today (& yesterday.. & tomorrow) continue to call out "racism" & discrimination is not an indication or desire to "keep it going".. rather.. until more caucasians recognize that it exists & until they acknowledge its impact on everyone.. people will & should continue to call it out.

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myself included.

Excellent post - thank you! You'd be surprised how many knuckleheads believe that nonsense...that the fucked-up shit that unfortunately, still goes on in america, will disappear if we just stop talking about it. Ridiculous.

MotownSubdivision said:

macaylasdad said:

nope. Chaka NOW has that title of being the worst.

Nah... Fergie's is still worse.

did she pee at the same time??

jfenster said: