Seriously, why is the media so insecure that Taylor Swift more successful than Beyonce in every possible conciveable metric available in the music industry????

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That's why the desperation for her worthless Lion King cameo and other nonsense to make her appear relevant.

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And Taylor will end her career being more succesful than Beyonce too. She already solidified her fan base before any of the fake backlash could ever come.

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We know she's just as big as Beyonce (but obviously bigger) in the US and gets about as much attention as well and her success in Asia>Beyonce's success in Eurupe.

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Seriously, people NEVER used Jackson 5 statistics etc... when measuring Michael Jackson's success/impact because if it's solo Tayor Swift vs solo Beyonce, Taylor Swift DESTROYS her.

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Taylor Swift has now clearly continued her success despite lots of unmistakable backlash over the years and deserves the drawing attention to how much Taylor Swift crushes Beyonce in the music industry.

Well, if you do a google search, you would see her "Lemonade" album was #1 on the Billboard and R&B charts. So, she has been rather successful as of late. And I wouldn't consider the media "insecure" when it comes to Beyonce and Taylor Swift. Because, by every metric Beyonce is a far more talented and superior artist than Taylor. I'm not a fan of either artist. But, there simply isn't even a serious comparison of the two in the talent department.

Both Beyonce and Taylor's voices are like nails against a chalkboard to me. Really, I can't stand either one of them. if I were FORCED to choose between the two, I couldn't do it! Their music is equally wretched. I don't get either one's success. Especially Beyonce. U.S. media still talks about her like she is some kind of innovative genius and musical royalty. I don't hear Taylor receiving the same kind of accolades.

Not sure why the female superstars are always pitted against each other. Neither is a favorite of mine but I don't think they are devoid of talent either. Beyonce's last two studio solo albums were very much album focused and a purposeful move away from Top 40 pop music. The results were that each of the albums were one of the best selling albums in their respective years and they yielded several hits on urban radio. Taylor is way more focused on Top 40 and is a force there. While I agree that Beyonce is over praised by the press, I don't agree that they care much about the alleged competeition between Beyonce and Taylor.

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MotownSubdivision said:

She had a #1 hit with Ed Sheeran last year or the year before last. I think she was the featured artist though. Beyonce has had a successful career but her stats don't line up with the praise the media reaps upon her. To be fair though, no stats could measure up to that. As for the random Taylor Swift comparison, really the only thing Tay girl has Beyonce beat in is the songwriting department. Her lyrics generally ain't anything noteworthy but she doesn't have an entire album's personnel on a single track like Beyonce does. The only area where I would compare the 2 is in media reception (i.e. who gets their ass licked more by the media) and for a while post-1989, it seemed as if Tay was rising to Bey's level but more criticism has been leveled at her for various reasons while we've reached the point where the press is outlawing people having the audacity to say the "Almighty Queen" Beyonce is overrated. [Edited 5/7/19 2:07am]

KEY WORD FEATURED so her last top 5 was pre lemonade era...

kitbradley said:

Both Beyonce and Taylor's voices are like nails against a chalkboard to me. Really, I can't stand either one of them. if I were FORCED to choose between the two, I couldn't do it! Their music is equally wretched. I don't get either one's success. Especially Beyonce. U.S. media still talks about her like she is some kind of innovative genius and musical royalty. I don't hear Taylor receiving the same kind of accolades.

I would love to take a Percentage of either one or both Net Worth that they have made off of their "nails against a chalkboard voices!"

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kitbradley said:

I mess w/ both of them when they do somethin I like . I suppose if I had 2 choose, I'd go w/ Be. But hell, I just started likin her around 4 n her self titled 1. I was a big DC fan, but thought it got whack w/ all the lineup changes cuz I thought Letoya Luckett was fine as all outdoors , blamed Be n her Pops like sum ppl. Got over it, never got into Lemonade tho, but am listening to Everything Is Love as I type (Jay-Z fan 4eva ). The bonus track from her live album is fire (her cover of Before I Let Go ). Her sis is fire (more my type of tunes 2), just had 2 throw that in . Liked a handful of Taylor songs along the way also. Both sing fine, fine performers, etc. Who cares about #'s n all that shit, u like it, u don't, that's what should matter. My scatterbrain thoughts .

getxxxx said:

It's been a long while since her last to 5 according to Billboard. None of the Lemonade era where top 20 hits

Both Formation and Sorry actually were

getxxxx said:

jaawwnn said:

kitbradley said:

Both Beyonce and Taylor's voices are like nails against a chalkboard to me. Really, I can't stand either one of them. if I were FORCED to choose between the two, I couldn't do it! Their music is equally wretched. I don't get either one's success. Especially Beyonce. U.S. media still talks about her like she is some kind of innovative genius and musical royalty. I don't hear Taylor receiving the same kind of accolades.

To her credit(i give credit when it's due) even though I'm not really a fan of Beyonce. But admire her drive,endurance & hard work. I will honestly say she is the HARDEST working woman of her generation. But I admit her vocal layering is quite impressive.

BTW: I'm still trying to forgive her for releasing "Lemonade" THE WEEKEND of Prince's(r.i.p.) tragic transitioning. It was SO disrespectful. Since he greatly admired her. But she did apologize later. Plus her husband made Prince(r.i.p) very happy in his last year on earth with the TIDAL deal.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I think it's very fair to be aggressively critical of Beyonce's career.

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I respect her as a singer and performer.

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But what she did with songwriting credits in her career is no different than people who chastise lip-syncers or people 'who don't write their own songs'.

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In fact, it should be deemed much worse. I don't know how that isn't as 'fraudulent' as some of the other things acts are accused of.

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If you're saying well she's the 'creative director' or 'heavily involved in the music', what the hell does that have to do with songwriting? Especially when critics disparaged other acts who've done the same thing with their albums. At the end of the day, Beyonce is singing music other people wrote, just like many of her contemporaries.

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Yes, Taylor Swift does deserve the recognition of being much more successful than Beyonce, which she is.

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She surpassed her a long time ago.

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nextedition said:

getxxxx said:

It's been a long while since her last to 5 according to Billboard. None of the Lemonade era where top 20 hits

Both Formation and Sorry actually were

NOPE NOT AT ALL

Formation

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MotownSubdivision said:

getxxxx said:

KEY WORD FEATURED so her last top 5 was pre lemonade era...

Are we only talking about singles or albums as well? Because Lemonade hit #1 and I'm sure this live album is at #1 now or hit #1 and went down. [Edited 5/8/19 8:29am]

HITS aka SINGLES not LPs

HOMECOMIING hit #4 TOP 200 #2 R&B and Falling

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MotownSubdivision said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

To her credit(i give credit when it's due) even though I'm not really a fan of Beyonce. But admire her drive,endurance & hard work. I will honestly say she is the HARDEST working woman of her generation. But I admit her vocal layering is quite impressive.

BTW: I'm still trying to forgive her for releasing "Lemonade" THE WEEKEND of Prince's(r.i.p.) tragic transitioning. It was SO disrespectful. Since he greatly admired her. But she did apologize later. Plus her husband made Prince(r.i.p) very happy in his last year on earth with the TIDAL deal.

How was releasing Lemonade a few days after Prince's death disrespectful to Prince? Or are you referring to the story of her calculatively pushing back the album's release date in light of P's passing?

Because it took the attention away from his transitioning which was FAR more imporatnt than a documentation of a cheating husband. EVERYBODY started talking about "Becky with the good hair" & who she was referring to which was

TOTALLY UNIMPORTANT TO JUST LOSING A WORLD ICON!

ChocolateBox3121 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: How was releasing Lemonade a few days after Prince's death disrespectful to Prince? Or are you referring to the story of her calculatively pushing back the album's release date in light of P's passing?

Because it took the attention away from his transitioning which was FAR more imporatnt than a documentation of a cheating husband. EVERYBODY started talking about "Becky with the good hair" & who she was referring to which was

TOTALLY UNIMPORTANT TO JUST LOSING A WORLD ICON!

That's the way people are in our culture. If it hadn't been about Becky's hair, something else relatively trivial would have become the news of the day. People's attention to important matters, especially if it is sad or reminds them of their own mortality, have a thousand ways to get distracted thanks to electronics and sensationalized news. It's much funner to click on bait about how horribly deformed various stars have become from plastic surgery, right ?

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nextedition said:

Both Formation and Sorry actually were

NOPE NOT AT ALL

Formation

Beyonce

Peaked at #10 on 5.14.2016

Sorry

Beyonce

Peaked at #11 on 5.14.2016

TOP 20 yes TOP 5 NAH

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Huh? You said "None of the Lemonade era where top 20 hits", thats what i responded to.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince didn't pull his New York gig when John Lennon had been murdered in cold blood only blocks away the day before

mnbvc said:

Yes, Taylor Swift does deserve the recognition of being much more successful than Beyonce, which she is.

But Adele sold more than Taylor Swift. Drake, Lil Wayne, and Nicki Minaj have more Hot 100 hits than anyone including The Beatles, Elvis Presley, & Michael Jackson. What's your point?

There is no way she is flopping. I am wondering about the chart performance for her Jay Z collaboration? "Apeshit" by The Carters - the one with the video in The Louvre.

What I've noticed from a distance is that her songs/videos tend to rocket to the top because of genuine interest from the beehive and the general public at large. But shortly after the hype of "something new from Beyonce" dies down, it's usually only the beehive still drooling at the mouth of her simply breathing. Whereas everyone else go on with their lives.

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This pattern is probably not unique to Beyonce either.