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someone here said he sued victor guitierez successfully, i didn't hear about that if it was true. All the jacksons except for joe were submissive people, you see it in the interviews. barbaric walters be asking insane shit and reebie just be grinnin when she should be saying "what bitch"" Michael wasn't no fighter, none of them are, i watched an interview with jermaine last night, that greasy fuck was crying and begging to be left alone, not exactly a fighting man. Sweet people, fucked up a little but sweet. now, joe on the other hand, joe was a motherfucker, and even he sounded like a sweet old man in his interviews. you're right about heroes though, i really don't have them as such so not much really shocks me.
one other thing, don't know how true it is but paul mooney has told the story many times of how mj called him and asked him to stop joking about him, paul refused and mike asked him how much he would liike to be paid to stop? sounds like michael just had one way of dealing with problems, throw money at them. | |
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I understand the concerns about Hollywood stories in the era of Metoo, and not foolishly sharing beds, but it doesn’t make mj a part of that nor guilty. Maybe naive and out of it was more like it. | |
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alphastreet said: I understand the concerns about Hollywood stories in the era of Metoo, and not foolishly sharing beds, but it doesn’t make mj a part of that nor guilty. Maybe naive and out of it was more like it. it has NOTHING to do with #metoo movement..grown men, ESPECIALLY IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY, do not sleep in the same bed WITH other peoples' CHILDREN...MULTIPLE TIMES WITH DIFFERENT BOYS...what part of that doesnt make semse?..even if there are NO extra aleeping accomodations, somebody ass is sleeping on the couch or floor...and MJ was tickling boys and shit?...let a grown ass man with a missing nose and a Diana Ross voice tickle my son, and you can bet i will make the music will stop forever | |
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I agree he had poor boundaries with many he encountered, that was the cause of all this. It seems more like you’re pissed off/disappointed with him and I can’t blame you for that. | |
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there is a quincy jones interviewthat kind of pinged my radar, he and mj were sitting next to each other and they talked about laying on the floor and michael strangely blurted out "sleeping" like he was awkwardly divert what they may have been doing, always thought that was wierd. QJ might have been a major molestor if the rumours have any truth. [Edited 2/2/19 15:46pm] | |
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PeteSilas said: there is a quincy jones article that kind of pinged my radar, he and mj were sitting next to each other and they talked about laying on the floor and michael strangely blurted out "sleeping" like he was awkwardly divert what they may have been doing, always thought that was wierd. QJ might have been a major molestor if the rumours have any truth. Source? | |
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youtube baby, can't do it all for you.just saw i said "article' when i meant interveiew. [Edited 2/2/19 15:47pm] | |
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PeteSilas said:
youtube baby, can't do it all for you.just saw i said "article' when i meant interveiew. [Edited 2/2/19 15:47pm] Thanks! I never heard those rumours | |
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Oprah has NEVER been star struck by ANYBODY.
Besides Diana Ross & Tina Turner.. [Edited 2/2/19 16:09pm] "That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when  was doing the Purple Rain tour had a lot of people who knew 'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." |
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ChocolateBox3121 said:
Oprah has NEVER been star struck by ANYBODY. Oprah is that you? Or is it Gayle? Or maybe it's just Steadman doing his chores while Gayle and O enjoy a pillow talk. | |
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I don’t think she’s the starstruck type anyways either and I sure ain’t one of them . That mj fan tactic of saying they work for someone isn’t going to work. We can do better | |
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i didn't say she was starstruck, i said she was jealous, it's pretty transparent. not just me i assure you. | |
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alphastreet said: I don’t think she’s the starstruck type anyways either and I sure ain’t one of them . That mj fan tactic of saying they work for/are someone famous isn’t going to work. We can do better | |
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hear sonny, it proves nothing, just struck me and others as a little strange:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfR0U7ABRiA [Edited 2/2/19 16:35pm] | |
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Thanks for that, Quincy sure couldn’t keep his hands to himself eh? | |
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ChocolateBox3121 said:
Oprah has NEVER been star struck by ANYBODY.
Besides Diana Ross & Tina Turner.. [Edited 2/2/19 16:09pm] she sure was acting startstruck when she went to visit with JayZ in Brooklyn...she was definitely atarstruck when Prince and Mayte were on her show... | |
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alphastreet said: Thanks for that, Quincy sure couldn’t keep his hands to himself eh? A little weird huhh | |
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No, it's Michael. He was sexy on the legs. Everyone around him eventually fell for him: LMP went bonkers over him and chased his ass around the world to no avail; Debbie Rowe wanted to become Ms Michael Jackson so badly she ended up offering him her womb though nothing else since Michael had no interest in any other part of he reproduction system; a smitten Karen Faye bragged about sitting on his lap; Grace "The Nanny" Rwaramba used to get on his bed while he was asleep just to have him wake up with her shinny smile gazing at him; Tatiana Thumbzten hit on him- hard- only to be fired over it mercilessly; the great Leonard Bernstein french kissed Michael on a bathroom; Shana Mangatal dated him for years (though he didn't know it) and, if we are to believe his more delusional fans, he, like, banged Diana Ross everyday including sundays. Michael had an aura around him that captivated people. I think it was Bob Jones who said that every time world-renowned CEOs met Michael they never failed to be starstruck. Women and men of all types and backgrounds were interested in him and pushed for a romantic relationship. Yet Michael preferred the company of boys. I am sure he never touched those boys, especially the ones who came after Chandler. In fact, I don't think he had any interest in a sexual relationship with, you know, actual living, breathing human beings for a variety of reasons. The sexual instinct in him was still in a very primitive state, like that of a child, and he could not tolerate the physical exposure that comes with sex and the horrible childhood memories associated with it. But here's a man who walks around constantly with boys, has no romantic links with women or men and admits on live TV to sharing his bed with children. He mudied the waters and has only himself to blame for it. While I do not think, and evidence certainly does not suggest it, that he molested those boys he cannot complain about people being suspicious of him. Even after the Chandler nightmare he continued welcoming children into his bed and seeking out dangerously close relationships with them. He brought some of this onto himself. And here we are, the fans, to collect the pieces and try to protect his legacy which we will continue doing even though he was careless. But the fans is all Michael has and we will defend him knowing full well there's no one else out there who will lift a finger in that direction. The family could care less since they aren't making money off of his brand and are even responsible for the now perpetual junkie image associated with him and the estate are more about damage control just in case people stop buying those Cirque du Soleil shows even though they have been very competent in many other ways. | ||
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She's starstruck every time Gayle King comes into her vicinity. Especially with Steadman out of it. | |
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ONLY by Prince's(r.i.p.) beauty. When she first laid eyes on him she was really shocked by how pretty he really was. But Oprah is NOT the starstruck type. She has seen & interviewed EVERYBODY! [Edited 2/2/19 18:58pm] "That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when was doing the Purple Rain tour had a lot of people who knew 'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." |
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Is Gayle King INCLUDED? Just askin'. For a friend. [Edited 2/2/19 18:15pm] | |
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ItsLetoyaBaby said:
No, it's Michael. He was sexy on the legs. Everyone around him eventually fell for him: LMP went bonkers over him and chased his ass around the world to no avail; Debbie Rowe wanted to become Ms Michael Jackson so badly she ended up offering him her womb though nothing else since Michael had no interest in any other part of he reproduction system; a smitten Karen Faye bragged about sitting on his lap; Grace "The Nanny" Rwaramba used to get on his bed while he was asleep just to have him wake up with her shinny smile gazing at him; Tatiana Thumbzten hit on him- hard- only to be fired over it mercilessly; the great Leonard Bernstein french kissed Michael on a bathroom; Shana Mangatal dated him for years (though he didn't know it) and, if we are to believe his more delusional fans, he, like, banged Diana Ross everyday including sundays. Michael had an aura around him that captivated people. I think it was Bob Jones who said that every time world-renowned CEOs met Michael they never failed to be starstruck. Women and men of all types and backgrounds were interested in him and pushed for a romantic relationship. Yet Michael preferred the company of boys. I am sure he never touched those boys, especially the ones who came after Chandler. In fact, I don't think he had any interest in a sexual relationship with, you know, actual living, breathing human beings for a variety of reasons. The sexual instinct in him was still in a very primitive state, like that of a child, and he could not tolerate the physical exposure that comes with sex and the horrible childhood memories associated with it. But here's a man who walks around constantly with boys, has no romantic links with women or men and admits on live TV to sharing his bed with children. He mudied the waters and has only himself to blame for it. While I do not think, and evidence certainly does not suggest it, that he molested those boys he cannot complain about people being suspicious of him. Even after the Chandler nightmare he continued welcoming children into his bed and seeking out dangerously close relationships with them. He brought some of this onto himself. And here we are, the fans, to collect the pieces and try to protect his legacy which we will continue doing even though he was careless. But the fans is all Michael has and we will defend him knowing full well there's no one else out there who will lift a finger in that direction. The family could care less since they aren't making money off of his brand and are even responsible for the now perpetual junkie image associated with him and the estate are more about damage control just in case people stop buying those Cirque du Soleil shows even though they have been very competent in many other ways. Thanks for your honesty. I do feel like it’s scraps to pick up in an unanticipated way as well. It’s nice to be open about it here without being attacked by other superfans [Edited 2/2/19 18:31pm] | ||
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People need to wake up. | |
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That’s what I call getting woke! | |
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The MJCast Retweeted
The MJCast Retweeted Sunrise We just recorded #TheMJCastEp95 Roundtable with @tajjackson3, @MarcosCabota, @TheMJAP, @CEThomson, Jamon & myself Q. We will discuss #LeavingNeverland, the lack of evidence, Taj’s GoFundMe counter docu-series, + also how fans can best combat this. In meantime, Taj speaks on TV ^Q
Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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ChocolateBox3121 said:
ONLY by Prince's(r.i.p.) beauty. When she first laid eyes on him she was really shocked by how pretty he really was. But Oprah is NOT the starstruck type. She has seen & interviewed EVERYBODY
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Yes, Oprah was very star struck by Michael during their interview. She acted like a fawning fan. She wanted the interview to go even longer. In fact, the president of ABC said that he would have given her another hour or even more, if that is what Michael would have wanted. This interview was seen by over 90 million people and set a record. [Edited 2/2/19 19:47pm] | |
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RJOrion said: alphastreet said: I understand the concerns about Hollywood stories in the era of Metoo, and not foolishly sharing beds, but it doesn’t make mj a part of that nor guilty. Maybe naive and out of it was more like it. it has NOTHING to do with #metoo movement..grown men, ESPECIALLY IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY, do not sleep in the same bed WITH other peoples' CHILDREN...MULTIPLE TIMES WITH DIFFERENT BOYS...what part of that doesnt make semse?..even if there are NO extra aleeping accomodations, somebody ass is sleeping on the couch or floor...and MJ was tickling boys and shit?...let a grown ass man with a missing nose and a Diana Ross voice tickle my son, and you can bet i will make the music will stop forever I noticed you CONVENIENTLY left out that GIRLS and boys came into Michael’s bedroom suite. You did exactly as the media did. Why the manipulation? Lillian Chandler was there with Jordan and mother. Chantel Robson admiited that she was in Michael’s bedroom suite with her brother. Nicole Richie has admitted she was ther a lot. Again, why did you act as if only boys were there? I find your preoccupation with “boys” strangely unsettling. | |
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PeteSilas said:
someone here said he sued victor guitierez successfully, i didn't hear about that if it was true. All the jacksons except for joe were submissive people, you see it in the interviews. barbaric walters be asking insane shit and reebie just be grinnin when she should be saying "what bitch"" Michael wasn't no fighter, none of them are, i watched an interview with jermaine last night, that greasy fuck was crying and begging to be left alone, not exactly a fighting man. Sweet people, fucked up a little but sweet. now, joe on the other hand, joe was a motherfucker, and even he sounded like a sweet old man in his interviews. you're right about heroes though, i really don't have them as such so not much really shocks me.
one other thing, don't know how true it is but paul mooney has told the story many times of how mj called him and asked him to stop joking about him, paul refused and mike asked him how much he would liike to be paid to stop? sounds like michael just had one way of dealing with problems, throw money at them. 1.Yes, MJ sued Guiterrez and won a 2.7 million settlement. However, the NAMBLA advocate, fled to Chile and didn’t pay up. Michael also sued Dian Demon for a story she did on Hard Copy. She had to retract the entire lie, publicly on that show. 2. No Michael was never submissive. He publicly challenged the 1993 accusations during a LIVE statement. He challenged the 2005 accusations during a LIVE statement. He and his lawyers fought like hell in court and won 3. Joe Jackson always said Michael was the most like him as being the strongest. 4. Michael fought Tommy Mottola PUBLICLY and never backed down. Sony Japan kicked Mottola out the door. 5. I never saw Michael being submissive. I did see him hurt be the lies that the fake accusers and the media spewed. 6.Just because Michael acted as a gentleman and didn’t curse his accusers out PUBLICLY, doesn’t mean he was submissive. * Please show me your version of what submissive is. His kind, quiet demeanor was definitely not a sign of weakness of submissiveness. I will be waiting for your examples of submissive. 6. Paul Mooney was once Michael’s strongest critic. I have never heard Mooney say that Michael offered him money to stop talking negatively about him. I do know that Mooney was not one who would stop his negative attacks for anyone or any amount of money. Paul Mooney started reading evidence and realized he had been wrong about Michael. Before Michael died and after, Mooney started defending him. I don’t believe what you say about the offering of money. [Edited 2/2/19 20:40pm] | |
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fucking oprah was pushing hard for the drug angle and when she interviewed janet, janet didn't seem to fight it. from what we know, he wasn't as hooked as they are trying to say. either way, we've lost our best and brightest to the same stupid shit. | |
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michael fought in his own way but i'm telling you, the whole family is submissive. I mentioned rebbie, she's smiling while she's being asked if joe molested her. the kind of smile genuinely nice people put on because they don't want to come across and mean and angry which she was at latoya for starting that shit. she even smiled when she said she wouldn't talk to latoya. latoya looked good iin that mag though, damn, reebbie herself might have been the most naturally pretty out of all the girls, i always liked girls with fucked up noses too and all of them had fucked up noses.
Her'es paul mooney's interview: https://www.youtube.com/w...K8BNx3uUek also, it's ironic but those in the know have said that Paul Mooney actually raped/molested Richard Pryor's son. These talented people who we never meet, as someone else said, we don't really know. Maybe they are good, maybe they are bad, maybe they are like us, somewhere in between.
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