like I said before,Wade Robson has ZERO credibility.I don't believe a single word that comes out of his lying mouth.

SoulAlive said:

like I said before,Wade Robson has ZERO credibility.I don't believe a single word that comes out of his lying mouth.

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RJOrion said:

and btw, MJ sued the media for innaccurate reporting, but HE DID NOT SUE THE PARENTS WHO SUPPOSEDLY FALSELY ACCUSED HIM OF ABUSE...

Actually he did file a claim of extortion against Evan Chandler but when the settlement came, his lawyers agreed to withdraw it

late August 1993 – Barry Rothman quits representing the Chandlers after Jackson files extortion charges against him and Evan Chandler. According to Geraldine Hughes’ book: “Dr. Chandler and Mr. Rothman continued to put their heads together as they very carefully planned their next moves. Dr. Chandler continued to call our office at least four to five times per day (on a light day) to speak with Mr. Rothman, and he continued to give Dr. Chandler advice concerning his every move.”

January 24, 1994 – The prosecutor’s office announces that they decline to file charges against Evan Chandler for extortion as Jackson’s attorneys retracted the complaint, preparing for the settlement that would be signed the next day. As a part of the settlement agreement Jackson had to agree to withdraw the extortion charges. The investigation of the extortion allegation by Jackson was never given the same attention and effort by the authorities as the child molestation allegations against Jackson. They never subpoenaed any witnesses, no search warrants were issued, and not much at all was done with the extortion charges.

January 25, 1994 – An out of court settlement is reached in the civil case between Jackson and the Chandlers. The settlement was illegally leaked to Court TV’s Diane Dimond in 2003 and from that document we know the amount paid into a trust for Jordan Chandler was $15,331,250. The criminal investigation, however, was ongoing. Both sides stated, and it is also stated in the settlement itself, that the settlement is in no way an admission of guilt by Michael Jackson. Los Angeles District Attorney Gil Garcetti maintained that the settlement did not affect the criminal investigation. The settlement also did not prevent Jordan Chandler from testifying in any criminal case.

Also....

May 7, 1996 – Evan Chandler files a civil lawsuit against Michael Jackson, Jackson’s first wife Lisa Marie Presley, ABC Capitol Cities Broadcasting and others for allegedly breaching the Confidentiality Agreement of the 1994 settlement when Jackson maintained his innocence in an interview on the ABC television channel. Evan Chandler this time demands more than $60 million from Jackson and a record deal so that he could release a musical album about the alleged sexual molestation of his son. The lawsuit gets thrown out of Court in 2000.

Here's a timeline of the 1993 allegations

https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com/the-1993-allegations/

PeteSilas said:

RJOrion said:

to be clear, i have always been a fan of Michael Jackson music, and before him, The Jackson 5's music...but i am also aware that successful/wealthy child-to-entertainment"icons", are usually very emotionally flawed and damaged people, due to the lack of normalcy in their social, physical and emotional (even spiritual) development...also, there are so many CONFIRMED stories of pedophilia and overall hedonism and deviant behavior within the industry and in and around LA/Hollywood..as a parent, i would NEVER approve of ANY ADULT MAN OR WOMAN SHARING A BED WITH A CHILD...especially if the adult has been as much as accused of pedophilia before...i dont care how good he can sing or moonwalk...i dont know for sure that MJ is/was gulity, but it damn sure looks suspect...so much so that family members would warn him about it...where theres smoke theres usually fire...would YOU leave YOUR kids at MJs overnight, if he were here?...that strange looking man who carved up his face and had test tube babies and talked to llamas and chimps and snakes?...and had an amusement park built on his property?...just because he was one of the greatest entertainers on Earth? ..how come MJ NEVER sued anyone about these socalled slanderous accusations???...nah, MJ played victim (limping all disheveled,in and out of court) and paid off his accusers...what innocent man acts like that?...most of MJs actions, reactions, and even some of his family members reactions point to his possible guilt...i love the music, but im a parent FIRST...MJ acted like a guilty man... im not gonna ignore that just because "Cant Let Her Get Away" or "Remember The Time" is among my favorite joints of alltime... these socalled entertainment icons are strange people...their deviant behaviors and secret lifestyles are being exposed more and more everyday...after all, who would have EVER thought that Prince would die at 57 of an alleged drug overdose?...these people are NOT always who you think they are, or who youd like them to be...at all [Edited 2/2/19 15:10pm]

someone here said he sued victor guitierez successfully, i didn't hear about that if it was true. All the jacksons except for joe were submissive people, you see it in the interviews. barbaric walters be asking insane shit and reebie just be grinnin when she should be saying "what bitch"" Michael wasn't no fighter, none of them are, i watched an interview with jermaine last night, that greasy fuck was crying and begging to be left alone, not exactly a fighting man. Sweet people, fucked up a little but sweet. now, joe on the other hand, joe was a motherfucker, and even he sounded like a sweet old man in his interviews. you're right about heroes though, i really don't have them as such so not much really shocks me.

one other thing, don't know how true it is but paul mooney has told the story many times of how mj called him and asked him to stop joking about him, paul refused and mike asked him how much he would liike to be paid to stop? sounds like michael just had one way of dealing with problems, throw money at them.

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So true about the family and the Jermaine interview - apologetic and weak. The family, at least the older generation, aren't fighters. It'll be left to the youger ones like Taj to take this on.

RJOrion, yes MJ was emotionally-flawed in many ways - that's obvious. But I strongly doubt he was a molestor. And I know for sure, Robson wasn't getting banged in his ass 7 days a week for 7 years. If he thinks he can handle that type of treatment there are a few porn companies that will want to get in touch with him.

modified said:

modified said:

Why are people still defending Michael Jackson? On a Prince forum?

because some of us love them both, yes, love, they could find out michael was a cereal killer and i'd still love him. fuck everyone else.

modified said:

Why are people still defending Michael Jackson? On a Prince forum?

As if liking Prince or MJ is mutually exclusive

modified said:

PeteSilas said:

modified said:

Why are people still defending Michael Jackson? On a Prince forum?

because some of us love them both, yes, love, they could find out michael was a cereal killer and i'd still love him. fuck everyone else.

I think Michael was a messed up person who was walking, talking evidence that capitalism and western fame is completely toxic. He also had massive talent, more than most; some magic albums and songs, and a fanbase who hugely overrate him (in fairness, true for every fanbase). Having read the evidence I also think he's innocent of these charges

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alphastreet said:

PatrickS77 said:

The maid seized her moment, "only" got 2 mio, though. Don't recall if that was imsurance money too, but that happened around the same time as the Chandler one. Squash the big fire and stomp out the small one too. Years after any alleged molestation took place.

I just remembered it was in 1990/91 if that helps, not around chandler time. Could that have been the time the maid got fired and he paid her to leave you think ?

Yes. She stopped working for Michael in '91. Sold her story in '93, after the allegations broke and managed to get a settlement after the Chandler's.

MotownSubdivision said:

modified said:

Why are people still defending Michael Jackson? On a Prince forum?

This is the NON-Prince section of a Prince forum, brainiac. You do know that it's possible to like both Michael and Prince, right? You don't have to be an MJ fan but you (and others on here) need to stop being insecure Prince sycophants who feel the need to drag other popular artists that get praised (namely MJ) because they aren't your golden boy. Michael's fame and popularity takes nothing away from Prince. Get that through your head already. [Edited 2/4/19 1:32am]

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

PatrickS77 said:

alphastreet said:

PatrickS77 said:

Yes. She stopped working for Michael in '91. Sold her story in '93, after the allegations broke and managed to get a settlement after the Chandler's.

Thanks for that, though I wonder why she couldn’t have been sued instead . He would have won

Sure, he could have. But he got rid of the Chandler's. Why open that can of worms again? The two grand juries were still going on. So I guess similar reasons applied. And why subject himself to another lawsuit, when she would go away with money too? Those two settlements kinda go hand in hand.

PatrickS77 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

MotownSubdivision said:

modified said: This is the NON-Prince section of a Prince forum, brainiac. You do know that it's possible to like both Michael and Prince, right? You don't have to be an MJ fan but you (and others on here) need to stop being insecure Prince sycophants who feel the need to drag other popular artists that get praised (namely MJ) because they aren't your golden boy. Michael's fame and popularity takes nothing away from Prince. Get that through your head already. [Edited 2/4/19 1:32am]

They DEFINITELY don't defend Prince(r.i.p.) on the MJ fansites. They don't even like his successful sister Janet.

That's a lie, as several MJ forums (the ones that still exist) have discussed Prince and celebrated his life when he passed. In fact, some MJ fans were sending albums to younger fans in other regions who didn't know much about Prince, educating them on who he was after he passed

And many fans, while critical of Janet, do love her and still support her.

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PeteSilas said:

modified said:

Why are people still defending Michael Jackson? On a Prince forum?

because some of us love them both, yes, love, they could find out michael was a cereal killer and i'd still love him. fuck everyone else.

I don't think it would have been a problem had Michael been a cereal killer, because "cereal" is something you eat for breakfast, however I think it would have been a big problem if he was indeed an actual "serial" killer.

alphastreet said:

THat was nice of them to educate about prince but they are too hard on Janet

what are the reasons for this. i never thought janet had any musical talent of note, that would be an obvious one. is it something else? fans are funny, fans of no talents like janet and madonna need to see them as goddesses when they really don't deserve it on a basis of actual musical talent. They should be admired for their ability to manipulate situations and package themselves, you could say they are good at selling their bodies, images and sex more than talent. not that I care much, it just kinda amazes me that these people have such a strong hold on so many when they shouldn't have it on actual merit. Streetmusicians have more ability.

alphastreet said:

They are good entertainers and have strong catalogues. I was referring more to them being hard on Janet since kissing Jay Leno and since mjs death because she wasn’t kissing his ass. Someone even has a ridiculous idea that the no sleep song was insensitive to mj, doesn’t make any sense right?

What does that song have to do with MJ?

purplethunder3121 said:

alphastreet said:

purplethunder3121 said:

What does that song have to do with MJ?

Nothing!

Wonder what they say about "Broken Hearts Heal" in which Janet sounds like Michael and is about Michael...

purplethunder3121 said:

The whole Northam scandal brought up Michael Jackson at work today. Docu release, now 10 years after the guy's death. All profits go to charity for sexually abused victims? No? so this whole thing's just a big ka-ching for the director and the accusers? Ok then.

Has there ever been a pedophile on record who didn't own or has a history of viewing child porn on his computer? Don't think so. So many accusers, no evidence. IF this documentary were to be taken seriously in any way, the guy who said Jackson was innocent should be punished for his perjury. Put this guy in a mental institution for life, for the apparent trauma he's been suffering all this time. For someone who let a 'guilty man' walk twice, that's the only way he should be pardoned from perjury charges.

At this point, no point in going back and forth about Michael Jackson. I think if his kids ever said anything about him I'd believe them. Other kids who took a pic or two with Jackson back in the day...now in an unfortunate situation career/money-wise - hold zero credibility in my book.

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bboy87 said:

bboy87 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

They DEFINITELY don't defend Prince(r.i.p.) on the MJ fansites. They don't even like his successful sister Janet.

That's a lie, as several MJ forums (the ones that still exist) have discussed Prince and celebrated his life when he passed. In fact, some MJ fans were sending albums to younger fans in other regions who didn't know much about Prince, educating them on who he was after he passed

And many fans, while critical of Janet, do love her and still support her.

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