purplepolitician said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Surprised Bruno won AoTY. Makes me wonder though, will people be saying K Dot got robbed again?

I definitely will b . Bruno Mars!

It just makes me think a little because I like Bruno and 24K Magic is a hot album, I think Kendrick is super overrated albeit still one of the best we have today and couldn't get into DAMN but maybe he should have won, IDK. His album was critically acclaimed across the board (again), hit #1 and held the spot for a good amount of time and scored 3 Top 20 hits (one of which hit #1) but the NARAS seems to change qualifications for AotY annually so IDK what prompted their decision.

I do know that if Kendrick did win, the award would have reeked of a "Sorry we snubbed you twice already, hope this one makes up for it!" stench.

I haven't listened to the other nominees at all but I do feel that if Lorde walked away with AotY we'd be hearing more backlash and louder declarations of Kendrick being screwed over yet again and while the album may have been good, given the standards the NARAS apparently used to elect their AotY winner, Lorde's album shouldn't have won. Melodrama was well received but was quiet compared to the buzz surrounding the other nominees. I'll also say that even though Kendrick has received vocal support in losing AotY, a far bigger deal was made for Beyonce losing last year than for Kendrick counting both of his snubs.

Identity said:

I thought I'd awoken in a parallel dimension when Bruno Mars was awarded album of the year instead of Kendrick Lamar. What a freakin joke! 😳

Bruno was a better choice than Taylor Swift or Macklemore.

Hudson said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Holy shit! They did not give Tina Turner her Lifetime Achievement Award on air.

They would have announced that weeks ago if they were going to do that.

I thought there was going to be a seperate televised ceremony for that.

Can we, for a moment, focus on something glaring here? A song by a man, about the body of a woman and picking her up in a bar and just wanting to fuck her, won over four other songs, all performed by women.

TrivialPursuit said:

Can we, for a moment, focus on something glaring here? A song by a man, about the body of a woman and picking her up in a bar and just wanting to fuck her, won over four other songs, all performed by women.

Who?

TrivialPursuit said:

Can we, for a moment, focus on something glaring here? A song by a man, about the body of a woman and picking her up in a bar and just wanting to fuck her, won over four other songs, all performed by women.

Is that what we're doing now?

Exorcising innuendo from pop music?

Welcome to the world of #metoo.

206Michelle said:

Bruno cleaned up...song of the year...record of the year...album of the year...among others. His performance was great, although some of the other performances were better. My favourite was "Wild Thoughts".

I don't think he deserves any of them, neither Album Of The Year nor Song Of The Year. I like the album a lot, but there is no way for that album be better than DAMN. And his song is catchy enough but it's not a great song lyric wise for winning Song of the Year.

214 said:

206Michelle said:

Bruno cleaned up...song of the year...record of the year...album of the year...among others. His performance was great, although some of the other performances were better. My favourite was "Wild Thoughts".

I don't think he deserves any of them, neither Album Of The Year nor Song Of The Year. I like the album a lot, but there is no way for that album be better than DAMN. And his song is catchy enough but it's not a great song lyric wise for winning Song of the Year.

AotY, OK but what was wrong with him getting SotY? It was easily the best song out of all the noms in that category.

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I wasn't feeling Kenny prior to this album outside of a few songs, but he deserved to sweep. His album is amazing, forward thinking, with solid production and even better lyrics.

Bruno's outdated recycled music/album didn't deserve to even be nominated tbh. Mediocre album at best. Guess they figured, lets nominate black artist this year to quiet the critics (throw in Lorde's album for a female) and then pick the worst album of the 5. Well maybe 4th, I've never listened to Gambino's album.

lastdecember said:

Beyonce the First Lady of music, apparently Clive Davis has early stages of Alzheimer’s disease. What the hell kind of statement is this .

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It was painful to watch. Miley Cyrus and Elton John....

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That was the strangest Grammys I have ever seen.

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Why was Sting there, performing old song? Do they not have enough artists to perform?

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Bruno Mars?

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Most of the performances were pathetic. Music has lost it's soul.

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cloveringold85 said:

It was painful to watch. Miley Cyrus and Elton John....

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That was the strangest Grammys I have ever seen.

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Why was Sting there, performing old song? Do they not have enough artists to perform?

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Bruno Mars?

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Most of the performances were pathetic. Music has lost it's soul.

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OK now you're not chill. LOL But seriously...

I am not a fan of Miley, but she was dressed nice and the duet was good.

You forget the Sting connection. This was the first Grammys in NYC in 15 years. They were at Madison Square Garden. Sting sang "Englishman In New York". It was a nod to the location, and a bit of self-humor. He is English, ya know.

In general, I do agree with you about the lame performances. Childish Gambino - I literally laughed through it. I couldn't care less about Kendrick Lamar. Kesha seemed internally manic during her performance, and the other women with her seemed to be props rather than support. But I support her fight against Dr. Luke, et al. The duet w/ Stapleton and Emmylou Harris was just so awkward!. P!NK's performance was the best, by far. Bruno is Bruno, love him or hate him. He did mention the older artists he purposely paid tribute to on 24K Magic.

Frankly, one of the more interesting parts was Blue Ivy telling her parents to chill the fuck out during whoever's speech.

MotownSubdivision said:

214 said:

I don't think he deserves any of them, neither Album Of The Year nor Song Of The Year. I like the album a lot, but there is no way for that album be better than DAMN. And his song is catchy enough but it's not a great song lyric wise for winning Song of the Year.

AotY, OK but what was wrong with him getting SotY? It was easily the best song out of all the noms in that category.

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Lyrically speakin, what's so great about it?

IIAGY said:

I wasn't feeling Kenny prior to this album outside of a few songs, but he deserved to sweep. His album is amazing, forward thinking, with solid production and even better lyrics.

Bruno's outdated recycled music/album didn't deserve to even be nominated tbh. Mediocre album at best. Guess they figured, lets nominate black artist this year to quiet the critics (throw in Lorde's album for a female) and then pick the worst album of the 5. Well maybe 4th, I've never listened to Gambino's album.

Indeed. I loved Bruno's outfit.

214 said:

God what a party this was Well-deserved sweep. An unmatched talent in pop music. Kendrick inspires a whole generation of black and P.O.C youth all across the country and probably the world, but 24K Magic is an escapist portal to the wonderful world of joy, love and sex. The thing everyone agrees is a good thing. It's a powerhouse message on its own, and that seems to be hard to swallow by the hip hop community. The album reached more demographics, more ages, made everyone dance and cheer up. People sometimes just wanna forget shit and have fun to simple love songs and not experimental and socially-conscious rap pieces about the urban struggle regardless of how important that is, music doesn't necessarily need to be political. It's up to the artist's vision.

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Gunsnhalen said:

TrivialPursuit said:

cloveringold85 said:

It was painful to watch. Miley Cyrus and Elton John....

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That was the strangest Grammys I have ever seen.

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Why was Sting there, performing old song? Do they not have enough artists to perform?

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Bruno Mars?

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Most of the performances were pathetic. Music has lost it's soul.

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OK now you're not chill. LOL But seriously...

I am not a fan of Miley, but she was dressed nice and the duet was good.

You forget the Sting connection. This was the first Grammys in NYC in 15 years. They were at Madison Square Garden. Sting sang "Englishman In New York". It was a nod to the location, and a bit of self-humor. He is English, ya know.

In general, I do agree with you about the lame performances. Childish Gambino - I literally laughed through it. I couldn't care less about Kendrick Lamar. Kesha seemed internally manic during her performance, and the other women with her seemed to be props rather than support. But I support her fight against Dr. Luke, et al. The duet w/ Stapleton and Emmylou Harris was just so awkward!. P!NK's performance was the best, by far. Bruno is Bruno, love him or hate him. He did mention the older artists he purposely paid tribute to on 24K Magic.

Frankly, one of the more interesting parts was Blue Ivy telling her parents to chill the fuck out during whoever's speech.

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I get it now, on the Sting connection. I like Sting, actually. Why was U2 there singing with the Statue of Liberty in the background; they aren't even Americans. I'm a little hurt that there was no mention or tributes to Dolores O'Riordan who just passed away on January 15th in London. I'm kinda pissed at U2 for that, being they are from Ireland and The Cranberries was the biggest export out of Ireland, next to U2.

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It was hard to watch Kesha; she seemed to be struggling, but her performance was very emotional.

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I just don't feel there is anything very exciting going on in music right now. Bruno Mars is a good performer and he has talent, for sure -- but he's not really doing anything that hasn't been done before.

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I miss the days when Prince would come on stage and just blow everyone away. These Grammy shows today just don't seem very memorable. I guess I'm getting old.

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I thought it was hilarious how Blue Ivy was telling her parents to "Shhhh" LOL.....That was the cutest thing of the entire evening!

I really love this guy his show in the Apollo Theater was just astonishing, beautiful, I thoroughly enjoy his music. Havin said that, HOW IN THE WORLD the Grammys gave him Song of the Year but they never have given the Grammy to such a great songwriter like Bob Dylan or Cohen, or Prince?

Really what is so great lyrically wise about TWIL, there's nothing remarkable to it.

214 said:

I really love this guy his show in the Apollo Theater was just astonishing, beautiful, I thoroughly enjoy his music. Havin said that, HOW IN THE WORLD the Grammys gave him Song of the Year but they never have given the Grammy to such a great songwriter like Bob Dylan or Cohen, or Prince?

Really what is so great lyrically wise about TWIL, there's nothing remarkable to it.

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I agree; these award shows are silly anyhow, when you think about it. There are plenty of good artists that don't even get mentioned.

I am glad that Kraftwerk got a Grammy at the pre-show!

cloveringold85 said:

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I get it now, on the Sting connection. I like Sting, actually. Why was U2 there singing with the Statue of Liberty in the background; they aren't even Americans. I'm a little hurt that there was no mention or tributes to Dolores O'Riordan who just passed away on January 15th in London. I'm kinda pissed at U2 for that, being they are from Ireland and The Cranberries was the biggest export out of Ireland, next to U2.

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It was hard to watch Kesha; she seemed to be struggling, but her performance was very emotional.

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I just don't feel there is anything very exciting going on in music right now. Bruno Mars is a good performer and he has talent, for sure -- but he's not really doing anything that hasn't been done before.

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I miss the days when Prince would come on stage and just blow everyone away. These Grammy shows today just don't seem very memorable. I guess I'm getting old.

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I thought it was hilarious how Blue Ivy was telling her parents to "Shhhh" LOL.....That was the cutest thing of the entire evening!

Did we watch the same show?

First, I agree. I love Sting, and that song was so fun to hear live again. Sting is practically ageless, and his music is too.

U2 aren't Americans, so what? Sam Smith isn't either, but he performed. I'm not sure what the difference is there. Frankly, Bono has been a bigger champion for HIV/AIDS and human rights than some elected officials in the United States. For U2 to perform in front of the statue of liberty didn't seem odd at all.

The downfall of such huge songs like "Finesse" or when an artist is super hot at the moment is that you tend to see a lot of the same things over and over. How many times did Prince perform "Purple Rain" and go kiss Wendy on the cheek? How many times did MJ do the same tricks over and over and over and over through the course of TV performances and concerts? It's sort of an "era" thing. It's like Janet having a certain wig or two throughout the course of promotion for an album, or Beyonce wearing something similar throughout various TV performances. I'm not sure what else Bruno could have done w/ "Finesse" this close to the single's recent release.

Dolores was seen in the In Memorium and we heard her voice (I think).

I agree that for the 60th awards, and all the posters, etc. it was a very weak show. One of the lowest rated, too.

Blue Ivy stole the whole show.

Shawy89 said:

God what a party this was Well-deserved sweep. An unmatched talent in pop music. Kendrick inspires a whole generation of black and P.O.C youth all across the country and probably the world, but 24K Magic is an escapist portal to the wonderful world of joy, love and sex. The thing everyone agrees is a good thing. It's a powerhouse message on its own, and that seems to be hard to swallow by the hip hop community. an struggle regardless of how important that is, music doesn't necessarily need to be politicalThe album reached more demographics, more ages, made everyone dance and cheer up. People sometimes just wanna forget shit and have fun to simple love songs and not experimental and socially-conscious rap pieces about the urb. It's up to the artist's vision.

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You might be right.

That Finesse song is gah-bage

TrivialPursuit said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I get it now, on the Sting connection. I like Sting, actually. Why was U2 there singing with the Statue of Liberty in the background; they aren't even Americans. I'm a little hurt that there was no mention or tributes to Dolores O'Riordan who just passed away on January 15th in London. I'm kinda pissed at U2 for that, being they are from Ireland and The Cranberries was the biggest export out of Ireland, next to U2.

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It was hard to watch Kesha; she seemed to be struggling, but her performance was very emotional.

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I just don't feel there is anything very exciting going on in music right now. Bruno Mars is a good performer and he has talent, for sure -- but he's not really doing anything that hasn't been done before.

.

I miss the days when Prince would come on stage and just blow everyone away. These Grammy shows today just don't seem very memorable. I guess I'm getting old.

.

I thought it was hilarious how Blue Ivy was telling her parents to "Shhhh" LOL.....That was the cutest thing of the entire evening!

Did we watch the same show?

First, I agree. I love Sting, and that song was so fun to hear live again. Sting is practically ageless, and his music is too.

U2 aren't Americans, so what? Sam Smith isn't either, but he performed. I'm not sure what the difference is there. Frankly, Bono has been a bigger champion for HIV/AIDS and human rights than some elected officials in the United States. For U2 to perform in front of the statue of liberty didn't seem odd at all.

The downfall of such huge songs like "Finesse" or when an artist is super hot at the moment is that you tend to see a lot of the same things over and over. How many times did Prince perform "Purple Rain" and go kiss Wendy on the cheek? How many times did MJ do the same tricks over and over and over and over through the course of TV performances and concerts? It's sort of an "era" thing. It's like Janet having a certain wig or two throughout the course of promotion for an album, or Beyonce wearing something similar throughout various TV performances. I'm not sure what else Bruno could have done w/ "Finesse" this close to the single's recent release.

Dolores was seen in the In Memorium and we heard her voice (I think).

I agree that for the 60th awards, and all the posters, etc. it was a very weak show. One of the lowest rated, too.

Blue Ivy stole the whole show.

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I used to like U2, but not anymore. Bono just always seems to want to be the center of attention, and he gave a lame tribute to Dolores O'Riordan "Linger", by adding words to her song and he said nothing touching or heartfelt. Just rubs me the wrong way, and I'm Irish, so it really rubs me the wrong way! LOL

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I get what you are saying about Prince and MJ. Bruno is a good entertainer, no doubt.

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I didn't watch the entire show, but I searched and did see where they did tributes to those who have passed, and I saw Dolores mentioned.

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I have to say, I did like Logic/Khalid performance -- I think it's a good song and sends a strong message about suicide, and Logic did say some nice things at the end. I think Alessia Cara has a very nice voice as well.

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I don't think people really care about award shows anymore. Everybody watches stuff on the internet these days anyhow. News travels fast.

Shawy89 said:

IIAGY said:

IIAGY said:

Shawy89 said:

God what a party this was Well-deserved sweep. An unmatched talent in pop music. Kendrick inspires a whole generation of black and P.O.C youth all across the country and probably the world, but 24K Magic is an escapist portal to the wonderful world of joy, love and sex. The thing everyone agrees is a good thing. It's a powerhouse message on its own, and that seems to be hard to swallow by the hip hop community. The album reached more demographics, more ages, made everyone dance and cheer up. People sometimes just wanna forget shit and have fun to simple love songs and not experimental and socially-conscious rap pieces about the urban struggle regardless of how important that is, music doesn't necessarily need to be political. It's up to the artist's vision.

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What's funny about this post is Kendrick sold more pure ablums and was streamed more than Mr. Pop music Bruno's album. Did we forget Bruno's album was outsold by Metallica in its first week. Me ta llica in 2017. What a joke. Kenny album was well recieved by critics hands down and had culture impact. Bruno's album was typical pop crap with a non innovative twist. 24k has been done by many artist but universally ignored by the Grammys, what a coincidence.

lol who cares about US only?

24K Magic sold 4.5 million copies worldwide SPS (3.8m pure) while Kendrick sold over 3.6 million SPS. I know it's not a big margin but still, Bruno has more WW appeal, more countries listen to him.