rdhull said:

mjscarousal said:

Thats the same thing I said when I read your post. Yall (as the org) always stanning hard for this overrated bimbo and his overrated wife and its pathetic.

Ive never stanned for Jay or Beyonce lol. Plus he isnt overrated as rapper just because you dont like him. And why does it bother you so muh when someone likes (or stans) for someone you dislike? Wait..dont answer. I already know

It doesn't bother me. I am making an observation. Yall (the org) are a joke with gutter taste in music. From the stanning of Elvis, to the stanning overrated industry token Carters, to the trashing of the Jacksons and other talented artists over mediocre ones, yall are a joke. No Jay Z is overrated and he is not overrated because I dislike him. There are legitimate things that support why he is overrated such as this thread for example but since you are a fan of this quack, this post is not surprising Lol

mjscarousal said:

rdhull said:

Ive never stanned for Jay or Beyonce lol. Plus he isnt overrated as rapper just because you dont like him. And why does it bother you so muh when someone likes (or stans) for someone you dislike? Wait..dont answer. I already know

It doesn't bother me.

sure

rdhull said:

mjscarousal said:

It doesn't bother me.

sure

I call b.s. out on the org quite a bit (cause its a lot of it on here) like your post for instance. You and the other Jay Z fans are mad because we find him overrated and he is.

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mjscarousal said:

rdhull said:

sure

I call b.s. out on the org quite a bit (cause its a lot of it on here) like your post for instance. You and the other Jay Z fans are mad because we find him overrated and he is.

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mjscarousal said:

rdhull said:

sure

I call b.s. out on the org quite a bit (cause its a lot of it on here) like your post for instance. You and the other Jay Z fans are mad because we find him overrated and he is.

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If you havin' org problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems mjscarousal ain't one, hit me!

popgodazipa said:

mjscarousal said:

I call b.s. out on the org quite a bit (cause its a lot of it on here) like your post for instance. You and the other Jay Z fans are mad because we find him overrated and he is.

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If you havin' org problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems mjscarousal ain't one, hit me!

mjscarousal said:

Jay is a rapper tho, different to being compared to pop writers like Madonna and George.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

mjscarousal said:

But in this case, its appropiate to call Jay Z overrated. He was selected to be inducted in the songwriters Hall of Fame over Madonna and George Michael. That is absurd.

Jay is a rapper tho, different to being compared to pop writers like Madonna and George.

The written word is the written word. Jay-Z is not even the best writer in Hip-Hop/Spoken Word genre.

laurarichardson said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

mjscarousal said: Jay is a rapper tho, different to being compared to pop writers like Madonna and George.

The written word is the written word. Jay-Z is not even the best writer in Hip-Hop/Spoken Word genre.

and yet..he's in HOF

rdhull said:

laurarichardson said:

The written word is the written word. Jay-Z is not even the best writer in Hip-Hop/Spoken Word genre.

and yet..he's in HOF

Because he paid for it. Also who makes the decision about who is going to be in the HOF?

laurarichardson said:

Why would he need to pay? He's been a top rapper since his debut album in 96. And he's released some of the best Hip-Hop albums of all-time well before he became "THE" Jay-Z that we all know today.

mjscarousal said:

rdhull said:

Ive never stanned for Jay or Beyonce lol. Plus he isnt overrated as rapper just because you dont like him. And why does it bother you so muh when someone likes (or stans) for someone you dislike? Wait..dont answer. I already know

It doesn't bother me. I am making an observation. Yall (the org) are a joke with gutter taste in music. From the stanning of Elvis, to the stanning overrated industry token Carters, to the trashing of the Jacksons and other talented artists over mediocre ones, yall are a joke. No Jay Z is overrated and he is not overrated because I dislike him. There are legitimate things that support why he is overrated such as this thread for example but since you are a fan of this quack, this post is not surprising Lol

Ugh; you're still on that? Nobody was stanning for Elvis Presley, and nobody trashes Michael Jackson,
either.

Don't get me wrong: I think Jay-Z is boring too, but don't act like your taste in music is so much more
sophisticated than anybody else.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

laurarichardson said:

Because he paid for it. Also who makes the decision about who is going to be in the HOF?

Why would he need to pay? He's been a top rapper since his debut album in 96. And he's released some of the best Hip-Hop albums of all-time well before he became "THE" Jay-Z that we all know today.

Do some reserch people do shell out money to get awards and he is promoting his new album? Do you really think it is a coincedence that the new music is coming out when he is getting this award?

laurarichardson said:

He got nominated for this award last year. It may be the other way around.

Jay has earned his stripes from rapping with Jaz-O to being Big Daddy Kanes hype man.

popgodazipa said:

mjscarousal said:

I call b.s. out on the org quite a bit (cause its a lot of it on here) like your post for instance. You and the other Jay Z fans are mad because we find him overrated and he is.

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If you havin' org problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems mjscarousal ain't one, hit me!

LOL

You wrote that line better than Jay Z wrote it.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

mjscarousal said:

But in this case, its appropiate to call Jay Z overrated. He was selected to be inducted in the songwriters Hall of Fame over Madonna and George Michael. That is absurd.

Jay is a rapper tho, different to being compared to pop writers like Madonna and George.

It doesn't matter hun, its called the SONGWRITERS Hall of Fame. That means its not looking specifically at musical genre. Its examining SONGWRITERS who were influential and demonstrated a superior level of songwriting and he is not more superior than Madonna and George Michael in that respect.

Dasein said:

mjscarousal said:

It doesn't bother me. I am making an observation. Yall (the org) are a joke with gutter taste in music. From the stanning of Elvis, to the stanning overrated industry token Carters, to the trashing of the Jacksons and other talented artists over mediocre ones, yall are a joke. No Jay Z is overrated and he is not overrated because I dislike him. There are legitimate things that support why he is overrated such as this thread for example but since you are a fan of this quack, this post is not surprising Lol

Ugh; you're still on that? Nobody was stanning for Elvis Presley, and nobody trashes Michael Jackson,
either.

Don't get me wrong: I think Jay-Z is boring too, but don't act like your taste in music is so much more
sophisticated than anybody else.

There are people in here who think Jay Z deserved to be inducted over Madonna and George Michael.... that speaks for itself of the level of their "taste".

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

laurarichardson said:

Because he paid for it. Also who makes the decision about who is going to be in the HOF?

Why would he need to pay? He's been a top rapper since his debut album in 96. And he's released some of the best Hip-Hop albums of all-time well before he became "THE" Jay-Z that we all know today.

I really like you as a poster but you are delusional if you think he deserves to be inducted OVER Madonna and George Michael. He is not even the best rap songwriter, there are way more talented rap songwriters than him. Off the top of my head Nas and Tupac are way more superior. You keep throwing up his albums but that is not why he is being inducted. He is being inducted because of his SONGWRITING and his songwriting is mediocre compared to other more superior rappers, Madonna and George Michael.

laurarichardson said:

rdhull said:

and yet..he's in HOF

Because he paid for it. Also who makes the decision about who is going to be in the HOF?

The org doesn't believe in artists paying for their awards, tokenism and industry politics.

There not the brightest bulbs on the lamp....

mjscarousal said:

laurarichardson said:

Because he paid for it. Also who makes the decision about who is going to be in the HOF?

The org doesn't believe in artists paying for their awards, tokenism and industry politics.

There not the brightest bulbs on the lamp....

It's spelled 'they're' bright one

mjscarousal said:

Why isn't Jay a better songwriter than Madonna or GM?

Rolling stone's 500 Greatest Song all-time

Jay-Z = 2 (is a featured artist on 2 other)
Madonna = 1
George Michael = 0

rdhull said:

mjscarousal said:

The org doesn't believe in artists paying for their awards, tokenism and industry politics.

There not the brightest bulbs on the lamp....

It's spelled 'they're' bright one

LittleBLUECorvette said:

mjscarousal said:

It doesn't matter hun, its called the SONGWRITERS Hall of Fame. That means its not looking specifically at musical genre. Its examining SONGWRITERS who were influential and demonstrated a superior level of songwriting and he is not more superior than Madonna and George Michael in that respect.

Why isn't Jay a better songwriter than Madonna or GM? Rolling stone's 500 Greatest Song all-time Jay-Z = 2 (is a featured artist on 2 other) Madonna = 1 George Michael = 0

Since when has Rolling Stones been credible? RS is trash. The lists and critiques they create are biased and politically driven. They always snub, neglect or minimize the impact of a lot of legendary artists and bands. So not sure why are you even mentioning them. Jay Z is a token Black which is why he is unfairly overrated on these lists. Madonna and George are not industry darlings like him so its not fair to refer to these lists as a accurate reflection of the impact of these artists.

You obviously don't listen to Madonna or GM, just say that. It is misguided to say a rapper you like is a better songwriter than another artist, "just because you prefer them"

What song has Jay Z written that has been more influential and groundbreaking than any of Madonna's classics she has written???

What song has Jay Z written that has been more artistic and superior to Nas?

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mjscarousal said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

mjscarousal said: Why isn't Jay a better songwriter than Madonna or GM? Rolling stone's 500 Greatest Song all-time Jay-Z = 2 (is a featured artist on 2 other) Madonna = 1 George Michael = 0

Since when has Rolling Stones been credible? RS is trash. The lists and critiques they create are biased and politically driven. They always snub, neglect or minimize the impact of a lot of legendary artists and bands. So not sure why are you even mentioning them. Jay Z is a token Black which is why he is unfairly overrated on these lists. Madonna and George are not industry darlings like him so its not fair to refer to these lists as a accurate reflection of the impact of these artists.

You obviously don't listen to Madonna or GM, just say that. It is misguided to say a rapper you like is a better songwriter than another artist, "just because you prefer them"

What song has Jay Z written that has been more influential and groundbreaking than any of Madonna's classics she has written???

What song has Jay Z written that has been more artistic and superior to Nas?

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they're

mjscarousal said:

Dasein said:

Ugh; you're still on that? Nobody was stanning for Elvis Presley, and nobody trashes Michael Jackson,
either.

Don't get me wrong: I think Jay-Z is boring too, but don't act like your taste in music is so much more
sophisticated than anybody else.

There are people in here who think Jay Z deserved to be inducted over Madonna and George Michael.... that speaks for itself of the level of their "taste".

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Yes; it only speaks to their level of taste is different than yours - nothing else. Stop acting like
your taste is so much better than anybody else's as you and I both know that you do not have
the ability to tell us why your taste is better than anybody else's in the first place without appeal-
ing to "But, it's my opinion!"



I think Jay-Z sucks for reasons enumerated; but, I don't think that those who do like him have
"gutter taste." Stop being such a taste-snob and a taste-bully.

mjscarousal said:

Dasein said:

I'm gonna get killed for this but Jay-Z is the most overrated rapper of all time. His flow is boring;
his voice is boring; and he's said nothing in the past 20 years that gave me pause.

Wow, we finally agree on something. He is the most overrated rapper.

Makes sense that he's married to Beyonce - those two are a match in mediocre yet overrated heaven

mjscarousal said:

SNIP, do you listen to his music. This isn't Will Smith.

Jay is a rapper that's all that needs to be said. People still go crazy that rappers are in the Rock Hall.

And who said I like Jay-Z? It's obvious you don't like Jay.

rdhull said:

mjscarousal said:

Since when has Rolling Stones been credible? RS is trash. The lists and critiques they create are biased and politically driven. They always snub, neglect or minimize the impact of a lot of legendary artists and bands. So not sure why are you even mentioning them. Jay Z is a token Black which is why he is unfairly overrated on these lists. Madonna and George are not industry darlings like him so its not fair to refer to these lists as a accurate reflection of the impact of these artists.

You obviously don't listen to Madonna or GM, just say that. It is misguided to say a rapper you like is a better songwriter than another artist, "just because you prefer them"

What song has Jay Z written that has been more influential and groundbreaking than any of Madonna's classics she has written???

What song has Jay Z written that has been more artistic and superior to Nas?

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they're

We know you have nothing intelligent to add to this discussion. Given you stan for Jay Z, this is not surprising.

NaughtyKitty said:

mjscarousal said:

Wow, we finally agree on something. He is the most overrated rapper.

Makes sense that he's married to Beyonce - those two are a match in mediocre yet overrated heaven

Exactly.

LOL The org is shit now.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

mjscarousal said:

Since when has Rolling Stones been credible? RS is trash. The lists and critiques they create are biased and politically driven. They always snub, neglect or minimize the impact of a lot of legendary artists and bands. So not sure why are you even mentioning them. Jay Z is a token Black which is why he is unfairly overrated on these lists. Madonna and George are not industry darlings like him so its not fair to refer to these lists as a accurate reflection of the impact of these artists.

You obviously don't listen to Madonna or GM, just say that. It is misguided to say a rapper you like is a better songwriter than another artist, "just because you prefer them"

What song has Jay Z written that has been more influential and groundbreaking than any of Madonna's classics she has written???

What song has Jay Z written that has been more artistic and superior to Nas?

[Edited 6/21/17 10:03am]

SNIP, do you listen to his music. This isn't Will Smith. Jay is a rapper that's all that needs to be said. People still go crazy that rappers are in the Rock Hall. And who said I like Jay-Z? It's obvious you don't like Jay.

Instead of saying "I don't like Jay Z", why don't you answer the questions I asked you.

If you feel Jay Z is a stronger songwriter than Madonna, George Michael or Nas, why not just list all the Jay Z songs you think are more superior to M, GM or Nas songs?

It shouldn't be that hard since you think Jay Z is so much better than them.

Jay Z IS a token Black and he is largely successful because of tokenism.