I heard some1 make that comparision on another site.. think about it.. both are greatly esteemed for their looks and have stunning features and versatile fashion sense.. and an undeniable "IT" factor and sexual appeal that radiates off of them... Rihanna drives the guys crazy just like Vanity did back in the day... Rihanna is the kiddies new "Vanity"... Agree or No?

Not really. Rihanna is more iconic than Vanity now.

paisleypark4 said:

Not really. Rihanna is more iconic than Vanity now.

I mean in terms of sex appeal, talent, and looks

bigblunda said:

I think what sets Rihanna apart from the other pop girls is that she is funny, intelligent, charismatic and has interesting personality.

Even if she wasn't beautiful, she could still command a crowd because she is intelligent, she is not a air head which I greatly respect. In terms of comparing her to Vanity. I think Rihanna stands on her own merits and I think Rihanna is more open and transparent than Vanity. I think they both have the same level of talent and both have a charm to them that is alluring.

Nope. Rihanna actually has talent. Exhibit A: Anti.

no cause Vanity had like barely one year of a relevant music career.

No, there is only one Rihanna and there is only one Vanity, you can't compare them generation wise.....it was a diffrent time, opportunities when Vanity came up in the late 70s etc.

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dancerella said:

Both are talented in their own way (I think Vanity was a better actress than singer). Rihanna is lucky to be on the scene today where there are more opportunities etc compared to 40 years ago.

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I really don't think it's a fair comparison. Both have something to offer for their generations.

mjscarousal said:

I think what sets Rihanna apart from the other pop girls is that she is funny, intelligent, charismatic and has interesting personality.

Even if she wasn't beautiful, she could still command a crowd because she is intelligent, she is not a air head which I greatly respect. In terms of comparing her to Vanity. I think Rihanna stands on her own merits and I think Rihanna is more open and transparent than Vanity. I think they both have the same level of talent and both have a charm to them that is alluring.

Honestly I started this thread curious to what you guys would say. (Not directed at you) And it seems like most of you guys don't remember watching Vanity's live performances or interviews to make an apporpiate comparision to begin with/

Their connection to the crowd is different, first Vanity DID come off as an air-head but her vibe was very magnetic, ethereal, and primal all at once. Rihanna is more egotistical, stronger, and empowered.

They're similar in ways because of their beauty, fashion, and music but Vanity had a projection about her that seemed delicately feminine and mischevious as well. Rihanna is more feisty and "bad bitch" image. Both are unique but Rihanna is probably closer in the vein of Aaliyah. My generation has yet to see a Vanity and I don't think they could appreciate a Vanity in a purer sense.

Vanity was pretty, and had charisma. Rihanna is a very talented artist and singer as well.

When I was a kid I thought Vanity was the hottest popstar. Now that I am very grown up I think Rihanna is the hottest popstar. So I guess I kinda agree with your statement as far as sexiness. Rihanna is the better singer though and had a far more succesful music career.

MotownSubdivision said:

dancerella said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Unique doesn't mean talented. Rihanna could've easily outsung and outperformed Vanity onstage.

I guess technically you're right. I'm just a huge Vanity fan and I think Rihanna is way overrated. Her singing has definitely improved but damn her lyrics are so vulgar. Then again, Pretty Mess?

This could be Rihanna and anyone, and my answer will still be this: Rihanna is absolutely rancid. Her voice is horrible, her music is canned and boring, or tries too hard, and her image is a hot mess of a train wreck.

bigblunda said:

mjscarousal said:

I think what sets Rihanna apart from the other pop girls is that she is funny, intelligent, charismatic and has interesting personality.

Even if she wasn't beautiful, she could still command a crowd because she is intelligent, she is not a air head which I greatly respect. In terms of comparing her to Vanity. I think Rihanna stands on her own merits and I think Rihanna is more open and transparent than Vanity. I think they both have the same level of talent and both have a charm to them that is alluring.

Honestly I started this thread curious to what you guys would say. (Not directed at you) And it seems like most of you guys don't remember watching Vanity's live performances or interviews to make an apporpiate comparision to begin with/

Their connection to the crowd is different, first Vanity DID come off as an air-head but her vibe was very magnetic, ethereal, and primal all at once. Rihanna is more egotistical, stronger, and empowered.

They're similar in ways because of their beauty, fashion, and music but Vanity had a projection about her that seemed delicately feminine and mischevious as well. Rihanna is more feisty and "bad bitch" image. Both are unique but Rihanna is probably closer in the vein of Aaliyah. My generation has yet to see a Vanity and I don't think they could appreciate a Vanity in a purer sense.

Rihanna may be a lot of things but she is far from egotistical. She is very down to earth and humble. I see why people like her.

mjscarousal said:

bigblunda said:

Honestly I started this thread curious to what you guys would say. (Not directed at you) And it seems like most of you guys don't remember watching Vanity's live performances or interviews to make an apporpiate comparision to begin with/

Their connection to the crowd is different, first Vanity DID come off as an air-head but her vibe was very magnetic, ethereal, and primal all at once. Rihanna is more egotistical, stronger, and empowered.

They're similar in ways because of their beauty, fashion, and music but Vanity had a projection about her that seemed delicately feminine and mischevious as well. Rihanna is more feisty and "bad bitch" image. Both are unique but Rihanna is probably closer in the vein of Aaliyah. My generation has yet to see a Vanity and I don't think they could appreciate a Vanity in a purer sense.

Rihanna may be a lot of things but she is far from egotistical. She is very down to earth and humble. I see why people like her.

And she was great in Home (2015) I give 4 out of 5 Rihanna - Dancing In The Dark (Audio & Home Trailer)

mjscarousal said:

bigblunda said:

Honestly I started this thread curious to what you guys would say. (Not directed at you) And it seems like most of you guys don't remember watching Vanity's live performances or interviews to make an apporpiate comparision to begin with/

Their connection to the crowd is different, first Vanity DID come off as an air-head but her vibe was very magnetic, ethereal, and primal all at once. Rihanna is more egotistical, stronger, and empowered.

They're similar in ways because of their beauty, fashion, and music but Vanity had a projection about her that seemed delicately feminine and mischevious as well. Rihanna is more feisty and "bad bitch" image. Both are unique but Rihanna is probably closer in the vein of Aaliyah. My generation has yet to see a Vanity and I don't think they could appreciate a Vanity in a purer sense.

Rihanna may be a lot of things but she is far from egotistical. She is very down to earth and humble. I see why people like her.

I mean that's the image, you have to admit her image has a bragaddico kind of arrogance about it but still down to earth at the same time

bigblunda said:

mjscarousal said:

Rihanna may be a lot of things but she is far from egotistical. She is very down to earth and humble. I see why people like her.

I mean that's the image, you have to admit her image has a bragaddico kind of arrogance about it but still down to earth at the same time

I still disagree. There are other pop stars who fit that egotistical image criteria. However, The only thing I will say is that she has a overly sexualize image but to be fair all the pop girls do besides Adele

mjscarousal said:

bigblunda said:

I mean that's the image, you have to admit her image has a bragaddico kind of arrogance about it but still down to earth at the same time

I still disagree. There are other pop stars who fit that egotistical image criteria. However, The only thing I will say is that she has a overly sexualize image but to be fair all the pop girls do besides Adele

Bitch Betta Have my Money, Needed Me, Rude Boy doesn't have some arrogant sort of self-grandeur about it? She's like a male artist in some way that's why she has one of the biggest heterosexual male fans out of all the main pop girls right now

"I was good on my own, that's the way it was, that's the way it was
You was good on the low for a faded fuck, on some faded love
Shit, what the fuck you complaining for?
Feeling jaded, huh?
Used to trip off that shit I was kickin' to you
Had some fun on the run though I give it to you

But, baby, don't get it twisted
You was just another nigga on the hit list
Tryna fix your inner issues with a bad bitch
Didn't they tell you that I was a savage?
Fuck your white horse and a carriage
Bet you never could imagine
Never told you, you could have it"

She used to be known for going after people on social media and being unapologetic about it. her fans love her for her bluntness , honesty, down-to-earthedness but also cool and natural "yeah i know i'm bad, yeah i know i'm stylish and all that" but just because she doesn't shove it on your face doesn't mean it's not there

It's like the natural cockiness and swagger that makes her cool and that always comes with some form of cockiness and self-assurance. So yeah... I don't see how it's not "egotistical".. unless U have a negative connotation of the meaning or I just used my words wrong

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bigblunda said:

mjscarousal said:

I still disagree. There are other pop stars who fit that egotistical image criteria. However, The only thing I will say is that she has a overly sexualize image but to be fair all the pop girls do besides Adele

Bitch Betta Have my Money, Needed Me, Rude Boy doesn't have some arrogant sort of self-grandeur about it? She's like a male artist in some way that's why she has one of the biggest heterosexual male fans out of all the main pop girls right now

"I was good on my own, that's the way it was, that's the way it was
You was good on the low for a faded fuck, on some faded love
Shit, what the fuck you complaining for?
Feeling jaded, huh?
Used to trip off that shit I was kickin' to you
Had some fun on the run though I give it to you

But, baby, don't get it twisted
You was just another nigga on the hit list
Tryna fix your inner issues with a bad bitch
Didn't they tell you that I was a savage?
Fuck your white horse and a carriage
Bet you never could imagine
Never told you, you could have it"

She used to be known for going after people on social media and being unapologetic about it. her fans love her for her bluntness , honesty, down-to-earthedness but also cool and natural "yeah i know i'm bad, yeah i know i'm stylish and all that" but just because she doesn't shove it on your face doesn't mean it's not there

It's like the natural cockiness and swagger that makes her cool and that always comes with some form of cockiness and self-assurance. So yeah... I don't see how it's not "egotistical".. unless U have a negative connotation of the meaning or I just used my words wrong

[Edited 11/25/16 3:01am]

She snapped on Needed Me. That's some real man type shit because I did the exact same thing to many a dude i feel that song.

paisleypark4 said:

bigblunda said:

Bitch Betta Have my Money, Needed Me, Rude Boy doesn't have some arrogant sort of self-grandeur about it? She's like a male artist in some way that's why she has one of the biggest heterosexual male fans out of all the main pop girls right now

"I was good on my own, that's the way it was, that's the way it was
You was good on the low for a faded fuck, on some faded love
Shit, what the fuck you complaining for?
Feeling jaded, huh?
Used to trip off that shit I was kickin' to you
Had some fun on the run though I give it to you

But, baby, don't get it twisted
You was just another nigga on the hit list
Tryna fix your inner issues with a bad bitch
Didn't they tell you that I was a savage?
Fuck your white horse and a carriage
Bet you never could imagine
Never told you, you could have it"

She used to be known for going after people on social media and being unapologetic about it. her fans love her for her bluntness , honesty, down-to-earthedness but also cool and natural "yeah i know i'm bad, yeah i know i'm stylish and all that" but just because she doesn't shove it on your face doesn't mean it's not there

It's like the natural cockiness and swagger that makes her cool and that always comes with some form of cockiness and self-assurance. So yeah... I don't see how it's not "egotistical".. unless U have a negative connotation of the meaning or I just used my words wrong

[Edited 11/25/16 3:01am]

She snapped on Needed Me. That's some real man type shit because I did the exact same thing to many a dude i feel that song.

Right? That shit was stone cold bad as hell. She broke some barriers with female singers and women in mainstream overall IMO. Was getting tired of the "sex kitten while stimulateously good girl" crap they were trying to push during the 80s and 90s anyway lol

bigblunda said:

paisleypark4 said:

She snapped on Needed Me. That's some real man type shit because I did the exact same thing to many a dude i feel that song.

Right? That shit was stone cold bad as hell. She broke some barriers with female singers and women in mainstream overall IMO. Was getting tired of the "sex kitten while stimulateously good girl" crap they were trying to push during the 80s and 90s anyway lol

Yup either be bad and own up to it or let it go. She been like this since the 2nd album and never let up.