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Lisa Marie on Michael... "I was the most real thing I think he's had".

After reading this, it doesn't really seem all that fake now... at least according to her, now that she's talked about it.

It doesn't all look bad on Michael Jackson either... seems like there was some love there afterall...

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Lisa Marie vs. Jacko
Thu Apr 3, 5:35 PM ET
By Josh Grossberg

Jacko may have left the building, but leave it to his ex-wife to tell him who's bad.

Out to promote her debut album, To Whom It May Concern, Lisa Marie Presley finally came clean about her bizarre mid-'90s merger, um, marriage, to Michael Jackson, admitting she left him because of his strange behavior.

In a series of interviews this week, the spawn of Elvis said she was indeed smitten with Jackson, her second husband, and the two of them did sleep together (try not to imagine it, if you can).

"I can't say what his intentions were, but I can tell you mine was that I absolutely fell in love with him and fell into this whole thing which I'm not proud of now," Presley, 35, told Rolling Stone magazine for its cover story hitting newsstands on Thursday.

Their union, however, quickly began to unravel when Presley felt that Jackson was using her to try and revive his sagging career, which had taken a hit due to allegations of child molestation. She says she now questions his motivations behind their marriage--and that now famous smooch at the 1994 MTV Music Video Awards.

Presley said the kiss was the idea of Jackson's manager, and she was "naïve" enough to go along with it. It's only now, she said, that she's realizing why people had suspicious minds about whether their love was genuine.

"It took me a while to realize that maybe he manipulated stories or did things for public reasons, and that I was getting dragged into it," Presley told this week's edition of Newsweek. "I can see that now...I can't say what his intentions were with me, but I can say it was the most real thing I think he's had."

Eventually, she said, it got to the point where Jackson would beat it for weeks at a time, leaving her home alone and tracking his whereabouts through press accounts. Presley says one of the final straws came when her ever-morphing hubby claimed in an interview with TV Guide that her dad, the King, had a nose job.

"I started asking questions, and it was always a different story," Presley told Newsweek, regarding the time Jackson was hospitalized but refused to explain what was wrong with him. "He said I was 'causing trouble' and 'stirring up problems.' He told me, 'You're making my heart rate go up,' and asked me to go home, and I said, 'Good. I want out.'

"This person is one of the biggest entertainers out there. He is not stupid. He's very charming when he wants to be, and when you go into his world you step into this whole other realm," Presley continued. "I could tell you all about the craziness--all these things that were odd, different, evil or not cool--but it still took me two and a half years to get my head out of it."

According to Presley, she went into a two-year depression after they divorced, but the experience was good inspiration for her music. In the track "Disciple," she vents about his "masturbative ways," though she avoids calling him a bad guy in real-life.

With Presley bashing him right and left, and scheduled to get up close and personal in an interview with Diane Sawyer in ABC's Primetime tonight, Jackson released a statement today through his publicist.

"Michael Jackson wishes Lisa Marie all the best in the world. However, as to a comment on anything to do with their marriage, as a gentleman Michael prefers not to respond," the Jacko camp said.

In the Primetime interview, Presley also talks about her short-lived marriage to actor Nicolas Cage. When Sawyer asked if she really tossed a $65,000 engagement ring into the Pacific while on Cage's yacht (which reportedly prompted Cage to send divers on a failed mission to retrieve), Presley candidly quipped: "It was more than $65,000."

The budding singer also said that--like her relationship with Jackson--all the commitments that go along with being a celebrity spouse, including the omnipresent entourage, took a toll on her and Cage, too, and led to their split after only 100 days.

Finally, Presley said growing up in Graceland wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

"Thousands of people were coming through my house to look at his body. I remember watching them all and being so confused. I couldn't really have my own grieving time," she told Newsweek. She said she was a "deep, dark kid who was always melancholy."

If Presley can generate as many record sales as headlines, she should make her daddy proud. So far, so good. While her album doesn't hits stores until next Tuesday, her first single, "Lights Out," has already landed in the number 24 spot on the Radio & Records Hot AC airplay chart.
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Reply #1 posted 04/04/03 2:11pm

mistermaxxx

too funny.Lisa Marie needs to stop already!!Mike ain't tripping on her no More.
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Reply #2 posted 04/04/03 2:28pm

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I am not sure why but I am

intrigued by Lisa Marie. Will

be interesting to see how she does.

I wish her the best!
He calls me "Holi" cuz he says everyday w/ me is like a Holiday...
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Reply #3 posted 04/04/03 2:41pm

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MJ's response:

Tuesday, April 1, 2003:

"Michael has only the highest regard for Lisa Marie and wishes her well. He has a positive attitude about the whole thing."

- Stu Backerman, Michael's Publicist


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So my take is this: He's over it, she isn't.
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Reply #4 posted 04/04/03 2:53pm

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Their union, however, quickly began to unravel when Presley felt that Jackson was using her to try and revive his sagging career, which had taken a hit due to allegations of child molestation. She says she now questions his motivations behind their marriage--and that now famous smooch at the 1994 MTV Music Video Awards.

Bullshit. I'll bet you she questioned it long before now -if she questioned it at all. This is just a calculated way to get her music more attention. Funny that she only decides to talk about her life with Mike when her album is set to be released very soon. She knows being connected to Mike brings more attention than simply being Presley's daughter.
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Reply #5 posted 04/04/03 2:55pm

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Well she has been seen out with him looking VERY happy jetting around the world some 3-4 years after they divorced.

And why the hell was she stark naked in his You ARe Not Alone video in August-September 1995?
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Reply #6 posted 04/04/03 3:02pm

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Their union, however, quickly began to unravel when Presley felt that Jackson was using her to try and revive his sagging career, which had taken a hit due to allegations of child molestation. She says she now questions his motivations behind their marriage--and that now famous smooch at the 1994 MTV Music Video Awards.

Bullshit. I'll bet you she questioned it long before now -if she questioned it at all. This is just a calculated way to get her music more attention. Funny that she only decides to talk about her life with Mike when her album is set to be released very soon. She knows being connected to Mike brings more attention than simply being Presley's daughter.


I think its a good selling idea, the whole "Michaels a Idiot" thing is going on right now, it was a perfect time for her.And so what if it brings her more attention, either way, it was a good idea for her.
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Reply #7 posted 04/04/03 3:10pm

mistermaxxx

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Well she has been seen out with him looking VERY happy jetting around the world some 3-4 years after they divorced.

And why the hell was she stark naked in his You ARe Not Alone video in August-September 1995?
Yes Indeed.Pure Calculation.She is a Trip.the whole Nick Cage thing was a Joke in the real Big Picture IMHO.
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Reply #8 posted 04/04/03 3:13pm

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Sdldawn said:

Supernova said:

Their union, however, quickly began to unravel when Presley felt that Jackson was using her to try and revive his sagging career, which had taken a hit due to allegations of child molestation. She says she now questions his motivations behind their marriage--and that now famous smooch at the 1994 MTV Music Video Awards.

Bullshit. I'll bet you she questioned it long before now -if she questioned it at all. This is just a calculated way to get her music more attention. Funny that she only decides to talk about her life with Mike when her album is set to be released very soon. She knows being connected to Mike brings more attention than simply being Presley's daughter.


I think its a good selling idea, the whole "Michaels a Idiot" thing is going on right now, it was a perfect time for her.And so what if it brings her more attention, either way, it was a good idea for her.
[This message was edited Fri Apr 4 15:02:52 PST 2003 by Sdldawn]

And so what if you think the whole "Michaels a Idiot" is a "good selling idea"...
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Reply #9 posted 04/04/03 3:24pm

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Poor Nic Cage. Even he's being asked about MJ by Barbara Walters, a man he met once about 20 years ago. It's ridiculous. It's like asking Vanesa Paradis what she thinks of Winona Ryder.
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Reply #10 posted 04/04/03 3:28pm

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Poor Nic Cage. Even he's being asked about MJ by Barbara Walters, a man he met once about 20 years ago. It's ridiculous. It's like asking Vanesa Paradis what she thinks of Winona Ryder.
exactly.the Bottom line is that the Journalist are Using a Lisa Marie or a Nick Cage to find out about Mike.now Lisa Marie who has a Mother who is a Actress&Elvis Her Daddy isn't that Interesting.Nick Cage a Coppola&Born Into Hollywood High Society&also a Oscar Winner,etc.. ain't that interesting when MJ is involved.speaks volumes for MJ.
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Reply #11 posted 04/04/03 3:29pm

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Poor Nic Cage. Even he's being asked about MJ by Barbara Walters, a man he met once about 20 years ago. It's ridiculous. It's like asking Vanesa Paradis what she thinks of Winona Ryder.

or Lenny
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Reply #12 posted 04/04/03 5:58pm

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I tried to watch her interview with Diane Sawyer, but her monotone was giving me a headache and boring me to death at the same time. What's so hard about speaking with inflections in your voice? She needs a speech tutor.

Anyway, Lisa sure has a lot to say all of a sudden. Does she have an album coming out or something? That was a corny joke, sorry. lol.
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Supernova said:

Sdldawn said:

Supernova said:

Their union, however, quickly began to unravel when Presley felt that Jackson was using her to try and revive his sagging career, which had taken a hit due to allegations of child molestation. She says she now questions his motivations behind their marriage--and that now famous smooch at the 1994 MTV Music Video Awards.

Bullshit. I'll bet you she questioned it long before now -if she questioned it at all. This is just a calculated way to get her music more attention. Funny that she only decides to talk about her life with Mike when her album is set to be released very soon. She knows being connected to Mike brings more attention than simply being Presley's daughter.


I think its a good selling idea, the whole "Michaels a Idiot" thing is going on right now, it was a perfect time for her.And so what if it brings her more attention, either way, it was a good idea for her.
[This message was edited Fri Apr 4 15:02:52 PST 2003 by Sdldawn]

And so what if you think the whole "Michaels a Idiot" is a "good selling idea"...



well, she's not exactly jumping on the pile lately. she's got a better perspective of him than almost anyone (being famous her whole life, and being married to him). yeah, she says he's kinda weird, but she does give some insight into it, and doesn't just throw him under the bus like a lot of others.

she's trying to push her album. she's an untested entity. she's got these interviews lined up, and they're obviously going to ask her about it. she doesn't have the pull as a star in her own right to tell them beforehand what they can and cannot ask. people aren't exactly beating down the door to interview Lisa Marie on her own merits. she's basically got 3 things in her life to talk about: her dad, her ex-husbands, and her new CD. unsurprisingly, the 3rd is the least interesting thing to hear her talk about. what's she supposed to do?
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Reply #14 posted 04/04/03 7:18pm

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AaronFantastic said:

Supernova said:

Sdldawn said:

Supernova said:

Their union, however, quickly began to unravel when Presley felt that Jackson was using her to try and revive his sagging career, which had taken a hit due to allegations of child molestation. She says she now questions his motivations behind their marriage--and that now famous smooch at the 1994 MTV Music Video Awards.

Bullshit. I'll bet you she questioned it long before now -if she questioned it at all. This is just a calculated way to get her music more attention. Funny that she only decides to talk about her life with Mike when her album is set to be released very soon. She knows being connected to Mike brings more attention than simply being Presley's daughter.


I think its a good selling idea, the whole "Michaels a Idiot" thing is going on right now, it was a perfect time for her.And so what if it brings her more attention, either way, it was a good idea for her.
[This message was edited Fri Apr 4 15:02:52 PST 2003 by Sdldawn]

And so what if you think the whole "Michaels a Idiot" is a "good selling idea"...



well, she's not exactly jumping on the pile lately. she's got a better perspective of him than almost anyone (being famous her whole life, and being married to him). yeah, she says he's kinda weird, but she does give some insight into it, and doesn't just throw him under the bus like a lot of others.

she's trying to push her album. she's an untested entity. she's got these interviews lined up, and they're obviously going to ask her about it. she doesn't have the pull as a star in her own right to tell them beforehand what they can and cannot ask. people aren't exactly beating down the door to interview Lisa Marie on her own merits. she's basically got 3 things in her life to talk about: her dad, her ex-husbands, and her new CD. unsurprisingly, the 3rd is the least interesting thing to hear her talk about. what's she supposed to do?

Oh jeez, I don't know, develop some integrity? rolleyes Nahh, I know that's too much to ask of someone in her position.
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Reply #15 posted 04/04/03 9:57pm

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Supernova said:

Their union, however, quickly began to unravel when Presley felt that Jackson was using her to try and revive his sagging career, which had taken a hit due to allegations of child molestation. She says she now questions his motivations behind their marriage--and that now famous smooch at the 1994 MTV Music Video Awards.

Bullshit. I'll bet you she questioned it long before now -if she questioned it at all. This is just a calculated way to get her music more attention. Funny that she only decides to talk about her life with Mike when her album is set to be released very soon. She knows being connected to Mike brings more attention than simply being Presley's daughter.


Exactly nod I question the integrity of both of them for getting married. He needed positive, "Look, I'm straight & married!" pub & she's been wanting to build a singing career for years. She probably thought that marriage would help... NOT! lol Well, not until now rolleyes
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Reply #16 posted 04/04/03 10:42pm

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"masturbative ways"
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Personally I think she's naive when it comes to the media. She comes across as a strong charcter who likes to speak her mind, but all her life she has successfully avoided the media attention. Now she wants it, she's finding herself in a situation where she has to answer some pretty personal questions and I think she probably feels like spilling her heart out all in one go is going to create a clean slate.

I'm not sure if it's going to work. The woman is 35, which is quite old for any singer making a debut, and no matter what she says about MJ and her father, it's not going to be enough for the media. They're always going to want more, and will always be more interested in them than her.

The one thing I don't like about her is that she claims that MJ acts up on a "poor me" type of attitude to gain sympathy... which I won't deny. But she's doing the exact same thing. 3 failed marriages, and she doesn't seem to blame herself for any of them.
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Reply #18 posted 04/04/03 11:03pm

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CalhounSq said:

Supernova said:

Their union, however, quickly began to unravel when Presley felt that Jackson was using her to try and revive his sagging career, which had taken a hit due to allegations of child molestation. She says she now questions his motivations behind their marriage--and that now famous smooch at the 1994 MTV Music Video Awards.

Bullshit. I'll bet you she questioned it long before now -if she questioned it at all. This is just a calculated way to get her music more attention. Funny that she only decides to talk about her life with Mike when her album is set to be released very soon. She knows being connected to Mike brings more attention than simply being Presley's daughter.


Exactly nod I question the integrity of both of them for getting married. He needed positive, "Look, I'm straight & married!" pub & she's been wanting to build a singing career for years. She probably thought that marriage would help... NOT! lol Well, not until now rolleyes

nod Yeahhh!

And being Presley's daughter ought to be enough to get the type of attention she wants for her music. Mike exploits himself, he doesn't need her to add to it. Seems to me now more than ever she's using Mike even after the marriage is over with. If they were using each other before, it was mutual and that was their business. Now she's divulging private (whether true or not isn't the issue) aspects of their relationship for the sake of selling a damn album. Uncouth...uncouth. I don't care about what fans say about Mike, that comes with the territory of leading the life he has and they can't use him. But isn't being Lisa phuckin Marie Presley enough to get your ass in the door without continuing to use Michael Jackson??? :O


sounding more like the Michael Jackson fan I was back in the 70s... omg
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Reply #19 posted 04/04/03 11:23pm

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Hey, Michael shouldn't be bitter if her scam works. The more albums she sells, the more money he makes - her songs are published by Sony/ATV biggrin
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Reply #20 posted 04/04/03 11:26pm

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Supernova said:

Now she's divulging private (whether true or not isn't the issue) aspects of their relationship for the sake of selling a damn album. Uncouth...uncouth. I don't care about what fans say about Mike, that comes with the territory of leading the life he has and they can't use him. But isn't being Lisa phuckin Marie Presley enough to get your ass in the door without continuing to use Michael Jackson???


sounding more like the Michael Jackson fan I was back in the 70s...


As much as Mike brings a lot of things on himself, I think it's becoming more obvious to a lot of people that he's been in a no win situation with the media for a long time.
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Reply #21 posted 04/05/03 12:03am

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Ellie said:

Supernova said:

Now she's divulging private (whether true or not isn't the issue) aspects of their relationship for the sake of selling a damn album. Uncouth...uncouth. I don't care about what fans say about Mike, that comes with the territory of leading the life he has and they can't use him. But isn't being Lisa phuckin Marie Presley enough to get your ass in the door without continuing to use Michael Jackson???


sounding more like the Michael Jackson fan I was back in the 70s...


As much as Mike brings a lot of things on himself, I think it's becoming more obvious to a lot of people that he's been in a no win situation with the media for a long time.
The Brother can't get a Far Shake.But SuperNova is On the Money How can you have the Last Name Presley&still gotta try to Pimp off someone else to get in??
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Reply #22 posted 04/05/03 12:41am

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what matter is if what she said is true, she didn't described him as an evil man or a murderer but as a fucked up hypocrite , she has slept with him she knows mj more than any of his fans I guess
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Reply #23 posted 04/05/03 1:12am

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Funny that people are knocking her for being calculating when he is the king of that. The only thing he is the king of.

I think she went way to easy on him. First of all, I don't buy that they had sex. You can tell that he has never had sex with a woman. That's why he hooked up with her. She was his beard. He didn't even have kids the normal way with that ugly women after lisa.

I bet you she can tell you stuff about freak boy that would curl your hair.
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Spats said:

Funny that people are knocking her for being calculating when he is the king of that. The only thing he is the king of.

I think she went way to easy on him. First of all, I don't buy that they had sex. You can tell that he has never had sex with a woman. That's why he hooked up with her. She was his beard. He didn't even have kids the normal way with that ugly women after lisa.

I bet you she can tell you stuff about freak boy that would curl your hair.



You can tell he's never had sex with a woman? Exactly how? Is there a bright neon flashing light that one gets when they start bangin' women? Really, enlighten me.

And..yeah, according to Jackson and Rowe, he did have his kids the "normal" way with her (at least the first two, the jury is out on the third).

You really don't know a damn thing about the man, so it isn't your place to contradict those who are in a position to speak of him because they actually know him.
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Supernova said:

AaronFantastic said:

Supernova said:

Sdldawn said:

Supernova said:

Their union, however, quickly began to unravel when Presley felt that Jackson was using her to try and revive his sagging career, which had taken a hit due to allegations of child molestation. She says she now questions his motivations behind their marriage--and that now famous smooch at the 1994 MTV Music Video Awards.

Bullshit. I'll bet you she questioned it long before now -if she questioned it at all. This is just a calculated way to get her music more attention. Funny that she only decides to talk about her life with Mike when her album is set to be released very soon. She knows being connected to Mike brings more attention than simply being Presley's daughter.


I think its a good selling idea, the whole "Michaels a Idiot" thing is going on right now, it was a perfect time for her.And so what if it brings her more attention, either way, it was a good idea for her.
[This message was edited Fri Apr 4 15:02:52 PST 2003 by Sdldawn]

And so what if you think the whole "Michaels a Idiot" is a "good selling idea"...



well, she's not exactly jumping on the pile lately. she's got a better perspective of him than almost anyone (being famous her whole life, and being married to him). yeah, she says he's kinda weird, but she does give some insight into it, and doesn't just throw him under the bus like a lot of others.

she's trying to push her album. she's an untested entity. she's got these interviews lined up, and they're obviously going to ask her about it. she doesn't have the pull as a star in her own right to tell them beforehand what they can and cannot ask. people aren't exactly beating down the door to interview Lisa Marie on her own merits. she's basically got 3 things in her life to talk about: her dad, her ex-husbands, and her new CD. unsurprisingly, the 3rd is the least interesting thing to hear her talk about. what's she supposed to do?

Oh jeez, I don't know, develop some integrity? rolleyes Nahh, I know that's too much to ask of someone in her position.


consider the 3 things she has to talk about: her dad, her ex-husbands, and her brand-spankin-new recording career.

it's obvious the girl has 3 strikes against her in showing good judgement. cut her some slack lol
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Reply #26 posted 04/05/03 3:34am

Essence

AaronFantastic said:

Supernova said:

AaronFantastic said:

Supernova said:

Sdldawn said:

Supernova said:

Their union, however, quickly began to unravel when Presley felt that Jackson was using her to try and revive his sagging career, which had taken a hit due to allegations of child molestation. She says she now questions his motivations behind their marriage--and that now famous smooch at the 1994 MTV Music Video Awards.

Bullshit. I'll bet you she questioned it long before now -if she questioned it at all. This is just a calculated way to get her music more attention. Funny that she only decides to talk about her life with Mike when her album is set to be released very soon. She knows being connected to Mike brings more attention than simply being Presley's daughter.


I think its a good selling idea, the whole "Michaels a Idiot" thing is going on right now, it was a perfect time for her.And so what if it brings her more attention, either way, it was a good idea for her.
[This message was edited Fri Apr 4 15:02:52 PST 2003 by Sdldawn]

And so what if you think the whole "Michaels a Idiot" is a "good selling idea"...



well, she's not exactly jumping on the pile lately. she's got a better perspective of him than almost anyone (being famous her whole life, and being married to him). yeah, she says he's kinda weird, but she does give some insight into it, and doesn't just throw him under the bus like a lot of others.

she's trying to push her album. she's an untested entity. she's got these interviews lined up, and they're obviously going to ask her about it. she doesn't have the pull as a star in her own right to tell them beforehand what they can and cannot ask. people aren't exactly beating down the door to interview Lisa Marie on her own merits. she's basically got 3 things in her life to talk about: her dad, her ex-husbands, and her new CD. unsurprisingly, the 3rd is the least interesting thing to hear her talk about. what's she supposed to do?

Oh jeez, I don't know, develop some integrity? rolleyes Nahh, I know that's too much to ask of someone in her position.


consider the 3 things she has to talk about: her dad, her ex-husbands, and her brand-spankin-new recording career.

it's obvious the girl has 3 strikes against her in showing good judgement. cut her some slack lol


It's like anyone else. When you have something to promote you cash in your publciity chips. I assume she's used up all the anicdotes about her dad so now it's MJ marriage. In the future she will probably brings more revelations come the next LP/book...
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Reply #27 posted 04/05/03 3:35am

Essence

Got this spam mail about the interview yesterday, don't why, haven't seen it obviously and wasn't that interested to be honest:

"Did you HEAR that on the Diane Sawyer interview? When asked what her reaction
would be if she found out the molestation rumors about Michael Jackson were
true?

SHE CHOSE TO SAY, "I would have him hanging on a tree." (And for the CLUELESS
- there are OTHER methods of punishment. What the fuck did she go "there"
for?)

This racist BITCH would do what racist WHITE BITCHES have had done to black
males all through out history.

Lisa Marie Presley = RACIST KKK BITCH"
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rolleyes
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Reply #29 posted 04/05/03 4:14am

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Michael Jackson = err
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