mjscarousal said:

214 said:

Better music... i'm not so sure, by her third album i'm sure Adele's formula will get old.

So you think "I fuq my man good and take him to redlobser" or "suck on my balls" or " surfboard on me" or "Im spinning with my hands up and Im flexin" or "Bow down bitches" or "eat the cake anna mae" Mind you these were Beyonce lyrics in her so called "hit songs" so you think this trash is better than an Adele song? I am not the biggest Adele fan but she definitly makes more quality music than Beyonce. It might not be innovative but at least the lyrics are relatable and not so deragotory or vulgar. I am not here for this Beyonce propaganda. Her music is trash.

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I like Adele but her music at the end is boring and goes just one direction so far, Beyonce's music is much more interesting. After 25 album i don't think she csn go far with his same style making ballads as she has done so far, her formula is getting old.

214 said:

mjscarousal said:

So you think "I fuq my man good and take him to redlobser" or "suck on my balls" or " surfboard on me" or "Im spinning with my hands up and Im flexin" or "Bow down bitches" or "eat the cake anna mae" Mind you these were Beyonce lyrics in her so called "hit songs" so you think this trash is better than an Adele song? I am not the biggest Adele fan but she definitly makes more quality music than Beyonce. It might not be innovative but at least the lyrics are relatable and not so deragotory or vulgar. I am not here for this Beyonce propaganda. Her music is trash.

[Edited 11/3/16 19:00pm]

I like Adele but her music at the end is boring and goes just one direction so far, Beyonce's music is much more interesting. After 25 album i don't think she csn go far with his same style making ballads as she has done so far, her formula is getting old.

Everyone said 25 wouldn't sell as much as 21 but 25 also went diamond and is the biggest selling album this year even outselling Beyonces overhyped Lemonade which only sold 2 million compared to Adele's 18 million and the album was released last year.

You don't go diamond back to back on formulaic music. Adele sings adult contemporary and its clear with her newest diamond album that millions and millions like her that is largely because between her and Bruno, she makes quality music compared to her peers.

Adele makes quality music and her music is universal and relatable. I am sorry but you can't convince me those vulgar and trashy Beyonce lyrics are interesting. I will never understand why Adele gets so much hate on this site but then I see people hyping Beyonce . Adele keeps her clothes on, she is not arrogant, stays her lane, is not a attention whore, makes quality music, writes her music and plays instruments unlike 90% of the mainstream singers now. No one is saying that her music is the greatest but her music is lightyears better than what is playing on radio.

She is not yet head of the entire Illuminati, so no.

mjscarousal said:

214 said:

I like Adele but her music at the end is boring and goes just one direction so far, Beyonce's music is much more interesting. After 25 album i don't think she csn go far with his same style making ballads as she has done so far, her formula is getting old.

Everyone said 25 wouldn't sell as much as 21 but 25 also went diamond and is the biggest selling album this year even outselling Beyonces overhyped Lemonade which only sold 2 million compared to Adele's 18 million and the album was released last year.

You don't go diamond back to back on formulaic music. Adele sings adult contemporary and its clear with her newest diamond album that millions and millions like her that is largely because between her and Bruno, she makes quality music compared to her peers.

Adele makes quality music and her music is universal and relatable. I am sorry but you can't convince me those vulgar and trashy Beyonce lyrics are interesting. I will never understand why Adele gets so much hate on this site but then I see people hyping Beyonce . Adele keeps her clothes on, she is not arrogant, stays her lane, is not a attention whore, makes quality music, writes her music and plays instruments unlike 90% of the mainstream singers now. No one is saying that her music is the greatest but her music is lightyears better than what is playing on radio.

Don't really? come one, what is groundbreakin or new about Adele, i like her, but come on, she is not that great, Amy Winehouse was much better in all fields than Adele but she did not sell as much as Adele, sorry but Adele is as overrated as Beyoncé. I'm with you Beyoncé is an overrated artist but no much more than Adele, but saying her music is trash is an over the top statement. One of Adele's appeal is her great personality and that she is a "safe" act, in any way offensive or threatening to society, moms, dads, grandpas and children can listen to her music. About the vulgar lyrics, well, you like Prince so... i don't consider her lyrics more vulgar than Prince lyrics. Don't come up and say Prince is classy and all that, his lyrics were quite vulgar sometimes. You just don't like her, and it's fine. But, indeed she is overrated.

214 said:

mjscarousal said:

Everyone said 25 wouldn't sell as much as 21 but 25 also went diamond and is the biggest selling album this year even outselling Beyonces overhyped Lemonade which only sold 2 million compared to Adele's 18 million and the album was released last year.

You don't go diamond back to back on formulaic music. Adele sings adult contemporary and its clear with her newest diamond album that millions and millions like her that is largely because between her and Bruno, she makes quality music compared to her peers.

Adele makes quality music and her music is universal and relatable. I am sorry but you can't convince me those vulgar and trashy Beyonce lyrics are interesting. I will never understand why Adele gets so much hate on this site but then I see people hyping Beyonce . Adele keeps her clothes on, she is not arrogant, stays her lane, is not a attention whore, makes quality music, writes her music and plays instruments unlike 90% of the mainstream singers now. No one is saying that her music is the greatest but her music is lightyears better than what is playing on radio.

Don't really? come one, what is groundbreakin or new about Adele, i like her, but come on, she is not that great, Amy Winehouse was much better in all fields than Adele but she did not sell as much as Adele, sorry but Adele is as overrated as Beyoncé. I'm with you Beyoncé is an overrated artist but no much more than Adele, but saying her music is trash is an over the top statement. One of Adele's appeal is her great personality and that she is a "safe" act, in any way offensive or threatening to society, moms, dads, grandpas and children can listen to her music. About the vulgar lyrics, well, you like Prince so... i don't consider her lyrics more vulgar than Prince lyrics. Don't come up and say Prince is classy and all that, his lyrics were quite vulgar sometimes. You just don't like her, and it's fine. But, indeed she is overrated.

I never said that Adele was groundbreaking. In fact, in my last post I even acknowledge that she is not that great BUT compared to her current pop peers which INCLUDES Beyonce, her music is light years better. Um.... I never said that all Prince music was "classy" and I am not even sure why you are bringing him in this conversation and what this has to do with Adele or Beyonce. You sound like a pressed Adele hater and a closet Beyonce fan. You keep making excuses for her trashy music. I don't care if you like or her music but its pure comedy that you find "suck on my balls" to being interesting music. I don't own any of Adele's music so I am not even a huge fan of hers BUT if I had to choose whether or not I wanted to listen to an Adele song over "suck on my balls" or "surfboard in my face" by Beyonce I would definitly choose Adele. No, you just don't like Adele and I don't take any of your opinions seriously after this point.

Revolution said:

I am not a fan. Lets get THAT straight. However, i see ppl praising her performance ability. Wrong. She comes from the over choreographed school of MJ. Britney, christina, janet, bruno also went there. Its garbage and lazy entertainment. What makes u special if 50 dancers are doing the same moves behind you? I do like her voice WHEN SHE DOES NOT OVER-SING. Over exposed and not legendary...yet. To the OP's point, i think time has run out on her.

How is doing choreography lazy. Thats alot more physically taxing than standing in one place with a guitar. And for performers who dance its not really about the choreography its about the energy they generate on stage the choregraphy becomes another tool or aspect of the overall show. And as far as mj his choreography came off looking spontanous do to him drilling it so many times and thats not a bad thing.

mjscarousal said:

214 said:

Don't really? come one, what is groundbreakin or new about Adele, i like her, but come on, she is not that great, Amy Winehouse was much better in all fields than Adele but she did not sell as much as Adele, sorry but Adele is as overrated as Beyoncé. I'm with you Beyoncé is an overrated artist but no much more than Adele, but saying her music is trash is an over the top statement. One of Adele's appeal is her great personality and that she is a "safe" act, in any way offensive or threatening to society, moms, dads, grandpas and children can listen to her music. About the vulgar lyrics, well, you like Prince so... i don't consider her lyrics more vulgar than Prince lyrics. Don't come up and say Prince is classy and all that, his lyrics were quite vulgar sometimes. You just don't like her, and it's fine. But, indeed she is overrated.

I never said that Adele was groundbreaking. In fact, in my last post I even acknowledge that she is not that great BUT compared to her current pop peers which INCLUDES Beyonce, her music is light years better. Um.... I never said that all Prince music was "classy" and I am not even sure why you are bringing him in this conversation and what this has to do with Adele or Beyonce. You sound like a pressed Adele hater and a closet Beyonce fan. You keep making excuses for her trashy music. I don't care if you like or her music but its pure comedy that you find "suck on my balls" to being interesting music. I don't own any of Adele's music so I am not even a huge fan of hers BUT if I had to choose whether or not I wanted to listen to an Adele song over "suck on my balls" or "surfboard in my face" by Beyonce I would definitly choose Adele. No, you just don't like Adele and I don't take any of your opinions seriously after this point.

Actually i like Adele more than Beyoncé, but i just can't see, why Adele's music is better than Beyoncé.

heathilly said:

Well you have to admit she managing her career great. No scandals and as of late critics are taking her music more seriously.

I still need to know the truth behind that elevator video with Jay and Solange.

TrivialPursuit said:

heathilly said:

Well you have to admit she managing her career great. No scandals and as of late critics are taking her music more seriously.

I still need to know the truth behind that elevator video with Jay and Solange.

that was pretty shocking to see that footage .

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TrivialPursuit said:

heathilly said:

You should know by now Beyoncé doesn't talk and niether do people around her. The ones who do disappear never to be seen again. Lol

Is she a Clinton by birth?

TrivialPursuit said:

She is a huge star. Get over it. I do like that commercial artists are using indy song writers. cool.

She earns her money. She has to practice her ass off all the time. Ten hours a day I'm sure. She cannot eat a thing. She cannot drink. She has to work out every day. She has to write hits. She has to do media. She has to kiss ass. Nobody here who disses her has that work ethic.

RodeoSchro said:

She is not yet head of the entire Illuminati, so no.

bingo..but CAN a woman "head" that?

2freaky4church1 said:

She earns her money. She has to practice her ass off all the time. Ten hours a day I'm sure. She cannot eat a thing. She cannot drink. She has to work out every day. She has to write hits. She has to do media. She has to kiss ass. Nobody here who disses her has that work ethic.

Thats one thing about her thats super impressive I bet she would out work prince mj and james brown. She has crazy work ethic. Admirable trait.

heathilly said:

MotownSubdivision said:

heathilly said:

Thats one thing about her thats super impressive I bet she would out work prince mj and james brown. She has crazy work ethic. Admirable trait.

I wouldn't go that far. Not to undermine Beyonce's work ethic but Michael was a known perfectionist and rehearsed religiously even after shows and performed even when injured once. Prince had tireless sessions which regularly ran from sunrise to sunset, performing even when ill and James Brown I'm sure was a hard worker as well. [Edited 11/5/16 14:25pm]

Im familar with the ladder but beyonce isnt no slouch either im sure shes went on stage with injuries before and she seems to always sing live unlike mj. Did you see the video of her continuing to sing when her hair ripped out her earring. Im just saying she works as hard as anyone before her thats one thing I have to give her.

heathilly said:

MotownSubdivision said:

heathilly said:

MotownSubdivision said:

I can't believe this is even a discussion on the Org. My how times have changed...

SeventeenDayze said:

I can't believe this is even a discussion on the Org. My how times have changed...

heathilly said:

I have always been neutral about Bey. Never bought her work, but I'm too old to be a hater of any pop star. What I do respect is that she has purposely stop courting pop radio and has become more of an album artist who is more AFro-centic in her lyrics and approach. So, her lack of pop hits lately is not due to misfires but her conscious decision to change her focus. Indeed, it has worked with her last two CDs being in the top 10 sellers of their respective years and having multiple R & B and Rhythmic Top 40 hits. I actually appreciate this, as I didn't see it coming. She seems to have inspired Rihanna, who has done the same with her last release as well.

MotownSubdivision said:

heathilly said:

That's true hardwork doesn't equate to fame you also have to be strategic and cease opportunities. Artist on the chitlin circuit were black and black artist generally don't sell well anyway. You can take prince and mj as an example how they made strategic moves with there music and image not to appear to black or R&B. That being said I don't see it in Bruno I mean I'm sure he puts in work. But I just don't see him going above and beyond and then going above and beyond that. Than keep going. But maybe he is I don't know. Mj prince James brown and Beyoncé to a slight lesser extent worked obsessively where they have no lives outside of there work. No work life balance and that can be a double edge sword. I think Beyoncé is handling the best sticking with family to stay grounded.

The Chitlin' Circuit was not for the faint of heart though, especially when they toured the South back when America was still openly racist. Having to put up with that and the circumstances of it in addition to basically living on a bus with in cramped conditions with a vast amount of your labelmates, being put up in rundown motels and performing multiple times in a single day for several months all across the country is something I don't see many aspiring stars putting up with today. Bey does have a nice balance with her professional and personal lives. She's got it good and she works hard for it but nobody is denying that about her. Of all the problems people have with Beyonce, her work ethic isn't one of them.

I believe she benefits from coming after prince and mj on how manage her life stay away from the media so bloodsuckers are kept at bay(mj) but keep family around you and interact with people dont cut yourself off from the people who really care and become a hermit. (Prince) just like sammy davis before mj. Prince and mj payed alot of dues for people like her.