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Reply #180 posted 08/14/16 4:36pm

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Fun article on Dangerous. Thanks for sharing.

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Reply #181 posted 08/14/16 4:43pm

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Scorp said:

bboy87 said:

The well hasn't run dry, the problem is that people would rather rehash the same stuff over and over and over. It's been like that since the "MJ sticky" began not directed at Conor, the info about Prince doing his own version of Bad is new and hilarious lol [Edited 8/14/16 12:45pm]

the well hasn't run dry? lolllllll

it's ova....

that OTW documentary was all she wrote......curtains

I hear that Spike Lee is gonna do a doco about Thriller.....

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Reply #182 posted 08/14/16 4:45pm

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Scorp said:



bboy87 said:


The well hasn't run dry, the problem is that people would rather rehash the same stuff over and over and over. It's been like that since the "MJ sticky" began not directed at Conor, the info about Prince doing his own version of Bad is new and hilarious lol [Edited 8/14/16 12:45pm]



the well hasn't run dry? lolllll



it's ova....



that OTW documentary was all she wrote.....curtains



No it hasn't. When people start focusing more on his work as the creative force that he was and move away from the caricature, then discussion can happen

There's people who want to know what went into those tours or the recording sessions, the creative process, but then you got the people who want to make money and rehash the same crap

Why haven't we heard about the post Motown 1975 recording sessions with Bobby Taylor or the 1978 sessions with James Whitney? Michael recording at Hayvenhurst in 1983-1986 and having Roger Troutman on 'Tomboy'?

Who's talking about the rumored sessions with Devante Swing or Jazzie B? When people decide they want to focus and talk about Michael's work, then they have a lot to learn
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Reply #183 posted 08/14/16 4:48pm

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Goddess4Real said:



Scorp said:




bboy87 said:


The well hasn't run dry, the problem is that people would rather rehash the same stuff over and over and over. It's been like that since the "MJ sticky" began not directed at Conor, the info about Prince doing his own version of Bad is new and hilarious lol [Edited 8/14/16 12:45pm]



the well hasn't run dry? lolllll



it's ova....



that OTW documentary was all she wrote.....curtains




I hear that Spike Lee is gonna do a doco about Thriller.....



and Branca wants him to do one on HIStory

"The Last Photoshoots" documentary may be coming as the guy who has the footage and the estate are in settlement talks
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Reply #184 posted 08/14/16 4:50pm

Goddess4Real

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bboy87 said:

Scorp said:

the well hasn't run dry? lolllllll

it's ova....

that OTW documentary was all she wrote......curtains

No it hasn't. When people start focusing more on his work as the creative force that he was and move away from the caricature, then discussion can happen There's people who want to know what went into those tours or the recording sessions, the creative process, but then you got the people who want to make money and rehash the same crap Why haven't we heard about the post Motown 1975 recording sessions with Bobby Taylor or the 1978 sessions with James Whitney? Michael recording at Hayvenhurst in 1983-1986 and having Roger Troutman on 'Tomboy'? Who's talking about the rumored sessions with Devante Swing or Jazzie B? When people decide they want to focus and talk about Michael's work, then they have a lot to learn

Plus all the Jackson 5/The Jackson's material.....and all the live concerts which I hope one will be released on dvd/blu-ray.

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Reply #185 posted 08/14/16 4:52pm

Goddess4Real

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bboy87 said:

Goddess4Real said:

I hear that Spike Lee is gonna do a doco about Thriller.....

and Branca wants him to do one on HIStory "The Last Photoshoots" documentary may be coming as the guy who has the footage and the estate are in settlement talks

Don't forget Ghosts lol oh wait Shana would want to be a part of that after all she was a "star" in it lol wacky loser

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Reply #186 posted 08/14/16 4:57pm

bboy87

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Goddess4Real said:



bboy87 said:


Scorp said:




the well hasn't run dry? lolllll



it's ova....



that OTW documentary was all she wrote.....curtains



No it hasn't. When people start focusing more on his work as the creative force that he was and move away from the caricature, then discussion can happen There's people who want to know what went into those tours or the recording sessions, the creative process, but then you got the people who want to make money and rehash the same crap Why haven't we heard about the post Motown 1975 recording sessions with Bobby Taylor or the 1978 sessions with James Whitney? Michael recording at Hayvenhurst in 1983-1986 and having Roger Troutman on 'Tomboy'? Who's talking about the rumored sessions with Devante Swing or Jazzie B? When people decide they want to focus and talk about Michael's work, then they have a lot to learn


Plus all the Jackson 5/The Jackson's material.....and all the live concerts which I hope one will be released on dvd/blu-ray.




And of the final recording sessions he had from 2003-09, only 2 or 3 songs have been officially released .Best of Joy and Hollywood Tonight were worked on in '08 but they're originally from 1991 and 1999
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Reply #187 posted 08/14/16 5:19pm

Scorp

bboy87 said:

Scorp said:

the well hasn't run dry? lolllllll

it's ova....

that OTW documentary was all she wrote......curtains

No it hasn't. When people start focusing more on his work as the creative force that he was and move away from the caricature, then discussion can happen There's people who want to know what went into those tours or the recording sessions, the creative process, but then you got the people who want to make money and rehash the same crap Why haven't we heard about the post Motown 1975 recording sessions with Bobby Taylor or the 1978 sessions with James Whitney? Michael recording at Hayvenhurst in 1983-1986 and having Roger Troutman on 'Tomboy'? Who's talking about the rumored sessions with Devante Swing or Jazzie B? When people decide they want to focus and talk about Michael's work, then they have a lot to learn

that's the problem, that's the kicker, there's a missing link in all this.......

none of that is going to happen until once and for all, the truth about what really happened to Michael Jackson over time is brought forth, until then, the propogating of the madness is going to intensify.....

that's the only way it's going to happen......

only reason that OTW documentary saw the light of day was because that period of his career when the public, the greater public was endeared to him and the focus WAS on the music and the talent because those were the elements that were presented to the public by the performer himself

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Reply #188 posted 08/14/16 5:20pm

Goddess4Real

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bboy87 said:

Goddess4Real said:

Plus all the Jackson 5/The Jackson's material.....and all the live concerts which I hope one will be released on dvd/blu-ray.

And of the final recording sessions he had from 2003-09, only 2 or 3 songs have been officially released .Best of Joy and Hollywood Tonight were worked on in '08 but they're originally from 1991 and 1999

Just bascially everything lol same thing with Prince I want to hear and see it all beg

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Reply #189 posted 08/14/16 5:44pm

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Goddess4Real said:



bboy87 said:


Goddess4Real said:



Plus all the Jackson 5/The Jackson's material.....and all the live concerts which I hope one will be released on dvd/blu-ray.



And of the final recording sessions he had from 2003-09, only 2 or 3 songs have been officially released .Best of Joy and Hollywood Tonight were worked on in '08 but they're originally from 1991 and 1999


Just bascially everything lol same thing with Prince I want to hear and see it all beg



I think we will, because its all stored and archived (although its been said among fans things were a complete mess in the mid 00s)
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Reply #190 posted 08/14/16 8:09pm

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bboy87 said:

Goddess4Real said:

Just bascially everything lol same thing with Prince I want to hear and see it all beg

I think we will, because its all stored and archived (although its been said among fans things were a complete mess in the mid 00s)

I see, but if rough cuts of footage are available on YT....their has to be more pristine versions in the vaults........just like with all the Prince goodies eg. Homecoming concert and aftershow 1983 in Mn or the Jackson's Victory tour 1984 with extras. Well that is what I'm hoping. Also didn't Prince see the Jackson's in concert at the Forum? if so which one and is there footage of him there?

Victory Tour Torondo 1984

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Reply #191 posted 08/14/16 8:32pm

scorp84

What needs to see the light of day is the "Thriller" short film the way it was meant to be seen, as in remastered original 35mm print.

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Reply #192 posted 08/14/16 8:37pm

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scorp84 said:

What needs to see the light of day is the "Thriller" short film the way it was meant to be seen, as in remastered original 35mm print.

yeahthat nod

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Reply #193 posted 08/14/16 9:10pm

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bboy87 said:

Goddess4Real said:

Plus all the Jackson 5/The Jackson's material.....and all the live concerts which I hope one will be released on dvd/blu-ray.

And of the final recording sessions he had from 2003-09, only 2 or 3 songs have been officially released .Best of Joy and Hollywood Tonight were worked on in '08 but they're originally from 1991 and 1999

MJ's posthumous albums have gotten successively worse since This Is It. And the reason is that all the songs on "Michael" and Xscape were ones that MJ didn't feel were good enough to be released as A-side singles. If the best his estate had to offer was songs written in the 90s, it means the songs from 2003-2009 are even worse than what's already been released. It's highly unlikely he was writing any songs during the grueling two-year trial he went through.

Unless Will.i.am changes his mind and lets the songs he worked on with MJ be released, there is little in the 2000s worthy of being packaged into more albums.

Not even the finest producers can turn B-side singles into top notch material.

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Reply #194 posted 08/14/16 9:34pm

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bboy87 said:

Goddess4Real said: And of the final recording sessions he had from 2003-09, only 2 or 3 songs have been officially released .Best of Joy and Hollywood Tonight were worked on in '08 but they're originally from 1991 and 1999

MJ's posthumous albums have gotten successively worse since This Is It. And the reason is that all the songs on "Michael" and Xscape were ones that MJ didn't feel were good enough to be released as A-side singles. If the best his estate had to offer was songs written in the 90s, it means the songs from 2003-2009 are even worse than what's already been released. It's highly unlikely he was writing any songs during the grueling two-year trial he went through.

Unless Will.i.am changes his mind and lets the songs he worked on with MJ be released, there is little in the 2000s worthy of being packaged into more albums.

Not even the finest producers can turn B-side singles into top notch material.

I too had mixed feelings about those releases.....those 3 Casino tracks didn't feel authentic.....to me like it sounded a rough demos, MJ skeleton vocals, mixed with an impersonator, and bits and pieces from other recordings, hey presto MJ tracks. With Xscape I preferred the tracks to remain the same without the fancy producers to "modernise" it and I didn't like them adding JT to Love Never Felt So Food track shrug When and if they release any future Prince albums I don't want some new producer to "modernise" his tracks....especially his older ones, if u know what I mean......cause authentic Prince is the BEST Prince.

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Reply #195 posted 08/15/16 1:26am

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Goddess4Real said:

MichaelJackson5 said:

MJ's posthumous albums have gotten successively worse since This Is It. And the reason is that all the songs on "Michael" and Xscape were ones that MJ didn't feel were good enough to be released as A-side singles. If the best his estate had to offer was songs written in the 90s, it means the songs from 2003-2009 are even worse than what's already been released. It's highly unlikely he was writing any songs during the grueling two-year trial he went through.

Unless Will.i.am changes his mind and lets the songs he worked on with MJ be released, there is little in the 2000s worthy of being packaged into more albums.

Not even the finest producers can turn B-side singles into top notch material.

I too had mixed feelings about those releases.....those 3 Casino tracks didn't feel authentic.....to me like it sounded a rough demos, MJ skeleton vocals, mixed with an impersonator, and bits and pieces from other recordings, hey presto MJ tracks. With Xscape I preferred the tracks to remain the same without the fancy producers to "modernise" it and I didn't like them adding JT to Love Never Felt So Good track shrug When and if they release any future Prince albums I don't want some new producer to "modernise" his tracks....especially his older ones, if u know what I mean......cause authentic Prince is the BEST Prince.

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I didn't appreciate it either; I heard the original piano track way before the remake or JT duet. The simple joy in his voice accompaying the piano was everything...

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Reply #196 posted 08/15/16 12:29pm

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Goddess4Real said:

I too had mixed feelings about those releases.....those 3 Casino tracks didn't feel authentic.....to me like it sounded a rough demos, MJ skeleton vocals, mixed with an impersonator, and bits and pieces from other recordings, hey presto MJ tracks. With Xscape I preferred the tracks to remain the same without the fancy producers to "modernise" it and I didn't like them adding JT to Love Never Felt So Good track shrug When and if they release any future Prince albums I don't want some new producer to "modernise" his tracks....especially his older ones, if u know what I mean......cause authentic Prince is the BEST Prince.

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I didn't appreciate it either; I heard the original piano track way before the remake or JT duet. The simple joy in his voice accompaying the piano was everything...

I don't like his demo, besides lirycally and musically is very weak song. I prefer the Timberlake version.

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Reply #197 posted 08/15/16 12:49pm

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MichaelJackson5 said:



bboy87 said:


Goddess4Real said:



Plus all the Jackson 5/The Jackson's material.....and all the live concerts which I hope one will be released on dvd/blu-ray.



And of the final recording sessions he had from 2003-09, only 2 or 3 songs have been officially released .Best of Joy and Hollywood Tonight were worked on in '08 but they're originally from 1991 and 1999



MJ's posthumous albums have gotten successively worse since This Is It. And the reason is that all the songs on "Michael" and Xscape were ones that MJ didn't feel were good enough to be released as A-side singles. If the best his estate had to offer was songs written in the 90s, it means the songs from 2003-2009 are even worse than what's already been released. It's highly unlikely he was writing any songs during the grueling two-year trial he went through.



Unless Will.i.am changes his mind and lets the songs he worked on with MJ be released, there is little in the 2000s worthy of being packaged into more albums.



Not even the finest producers can turn B-side singles into top notch material.



'Michael' was a complete rush job and clusterfuck of a project

"Xscape" was a vast improvement. I like the songs chosen but they're so gung ho on remixing everything which sucks imo

for example, the demo of Lovin' You was great. No need to remix it
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Reply #198 posted 08/15/16 2:33pm

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With Xscape I preferred the tracks to remain the same without the fancy producers to "modernise" it and I didn't like them adding JT to Love Never Felt So Food track shrug

Yeah. Didn't make sense at all, especially, since they didn't even bother to create a new verse for him. To have him just sing the same words as Michael made it pointless and lazy. I love the Michael solo version though. They did an outstanding job on it.

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Reply #199 posted 08/16/16 9:46am

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What's your favourite scene on "Living With Michael Jackson"? Mine would be Michael feeding Blanket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjdA3Cz8D_8


Hilarious! Such a lovable, normal and non-eccentric human being! How come he was so misunderstood?

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Reply #200 posted 08/16/16 2:02pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #201 posted 08/16/16 5:28pm

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http://www.nwitimes.com/n...74bb4.html

It will never happen.....after all who is gonna pay for it? Neverthless they are doing a b'day celebration again next week in Gary http://www.prweb.com/rele...613818.htm

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Reply #202 posted 08/17/16 8:36am

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Most surprising was the unsolicited proposition Hard Copy got from a representative of Michael Jackson's father. For $150,000 Joe Jackson would appear on the show to talk about Michael's troubles. The price quickly dropped to $50,000, but negotiations broke down because the show wanted Katherine Jackson too, and her husband couldn't guarantee her signature on a contract. The relationship between father and son had come down to a tabloid-TV deal.

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Reply #203 posted 08/17/16 3:54pm

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Scorp said:

Adorecream said:

There is a thread about Shana Mantangle or what ever the hell her bizarre ass name is, and the opinions there are that she is just another deluded groupie clutching at something she didn't have. She claims that her and Michael were pretty much a married couple and he loved her for years.

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Needless to say I am sure we are all weary of every other odd person who enncountered Michael saying they are doing a book. The amount of hack journalism and literary pablum written about Michael since his death could fill a Library.

Over 300 books written since 2009 that do nothing but continue perpetuating the madness or avoid the truth of what happened to this man over time But there is one book that dont roll like that and get to the core problem of what happened to Michael Jackson and why music has taken the path ot has traveled

Of all his alleged lovers, the most bizarre was Jason Pfeiffer, a Jewish gay chub, since when would MJ even be gay let alone chase big fat white boys. He threatened to write a book about it, fortunately he never did. Pfeiffer worked at the same clinic that Debbie Rowe and Arnold Klein did MJ's surgeries.

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Another one was Marck Schaffer, another Jew who calimed MJ was his client for years and was made to get fries for MJ (Slang for cash) and MJ only fired him when he found out the gay Schaffer was making homosexual porno movies. Thank God he did not write a book, but his nonsense fills up most of Randall Sullivan's book (A lot of gossip there) and the treachereous Schaffer ended up marrying Debbie Rowe!!!! It is likely Schaffer or Klein is the true father of MJ's kids Prince and Paris, both are very Jewish looking even though Rowe was not really Jewish ethnically, just adopted by Jewish parents, her real parents religion was unknown.

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Another bad book was by a Jewish rabbi called Schmuley Botech or some name like that, complete hogwash could not finish it. Amazing how all these people scattered when MJ started hanging out with the Muslims - so its possible MJ was considering new religions and there was even the rumour in 2008 he had embraced Islam and taken the name Mikal.

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #205 posted 08/17/16 5:05pm

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Spike Lee is gonna do another one of his MJ B'day Block Party Bashes and its a free event biggrin https://www.facebook.com/...elJackson/

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Reply #206 posted 08/17/16 11:37pm

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The Soul Brother Show salutes @michaeljackson this Friday on @KPFTHouston! #soulbrothershow #michaeljackson

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Reply #207 posted 08/18/16 8:13am

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Adorecream said:

Scorp said:

Adorecream said: Over 300 books written since 2009 that do nothing but continue perpetuating the madness or avoid the truth of what happened to this man over time But there is one book that dont roll like that and get to the core problem of what happened to Michael Jackson and why music has taken the path ot has traveled

Of all his alleged lovers, the most bizarre was Jason Pfeiffer, a Jewish gay chub, since when would MJ even be gay let alone chase big fat white boys. He threatened to write a book about it, fortunately he never did. Pfeiffer worked at the same clinic that Debbie Rowe and Arnold Klein did MJ's surgeries.

.

Another one was Marck Schaffer, another Jew who calimed MJ was his client for years and was made to get fries for MJ (Slang for cash) and MJ only fired him when he found out the gay Schaffer was making homosexual porno movies. Thank God he did not write a book, but his nonsense fills up most of Randall Sullivan's book (A lot of gossip there) and the treachereous Schaffer ended up marrying Debbie Rowe!!!! It is likely Schaffer or Klein is the true father of MJ's kids Prince and Paris, both are very Jewish looking even though Rowe was not really Jewish ethnically, just adopted by Jewish parents, her real parents religion was unknown.

.

Another bad book was by a Jewish rabbi called Schmuley Botech or some name like that, complete hogwash could not finish it. Amazing how all these people scattered when MJ started hanging out with the Muslims - so its possible MJ was considering new religions and there was even the rumour in 2008 he had embraced Islam and taken the name Mikal.

And the Chandlers were jewish. And so is Larry Feldman. Interesting.

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Reply #208 posted 08/18/16 10:19am

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ML2016 said:

Adorecream said:

Of all his alleged lovers, the most bizarre was Jason Pfeiffer, a Jewish gay chub, since when would MJ even be gay let alone chase big fat white boys. He threatened to write a book about it, fortunately he never did. Pfeiffer worked at the same clinic that Debbie Rowe and Arnold Klein did MJ's surgeries.

.

Another one was Marck Schaffer, another Jew who calimed MJ was his client for years and was made to get fries for MJ (Slang for cash) and MJ only fired him when he found out the gay Schaffer was making homosexual porno movies. Thank God he did not write a book, but his nonsense fills up most of Randall Sullivan's book (A lot of gossip there) and the treachereous Schaffer ended up marrying Debbie Rowe!!!! It is likely Schaffer or Klein is the true father of MJ's kids Prince and Paris, both are very Jewish looking even though Rowe was not really Jewish ethnically, just adopted by Jewish parents, her real parents religion was unknown.

.

Another bad book was by a Jewish rabbi called Schmuley Botech or some name like that, complete hogwash could not finish it. Amazing how all these people scattered when MJ started hanging out with the Muslims - so its possible MJ was considering new religions and there was even the rumour in 2008 he had embraced Islam and taken the name Mikal.

And the Chandlers were jewish. And so is Larry Feldman. Interesting.

Magician Uri Geller, another Jew, was the one who introduced MJ to Martin Bashir for the Living with Michael Jackson documentary.

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Reply #209 posted 08/18/16 10:22am

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MichaelJackson5 said:

ML2016 said:

And the Chandlers were jewish. And so is Larry Feldman. Interesting.

Magician Uri Geller, another Jew, was the one who introduced MJ to Martin Bashir for the Living with Michael Jackson documentary.

I always tend to think that Bashir gave Michael the rope but Michael hanged himself. His behaviour in that documentary is ridiculous beyond belief. The man was certifiably insane.

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