whatsgoingon said:

Not surprised about Prince's reaction towards Michael's death. We forget MJ was around since childhood. Michael had always been part of his life one way or another, so I can believe he took his death very hard.

He must have grown up listening to J-5 music like the rest of us did...

purplethunder3121 said:

Random thought. Don't you all love it, when greasy Jermaine Jackson says Michael would be nothing without the Jackson 5 and that his sucess and money are the family's? I'd say it's the otehr way around!

ML2016 said:

Scorp said:

ML2016 said:

Random thought. Don't you all love it, when greasy Jermaine Jackson says Michael would be nothing without the Jackson 5 and that his sucess and money are the family's? I'd say it's the otehr way around!

Jermaine always said the influence of the Jackson Five set the foundation for everyone's success, he's been saying that for decades because its true And the reason he keeps stressing because he knows the antagonists are so driven to erase that from the history books in order to keep exploiting Michael Jackson's name, which that formula has akready ran outta formula [Edited 7/1/16 9:25am]

You're the loony Jackson family advocate of the forum. After 7 years you're still here, blindly believing and spewing their crap. I ignored you back then and I will continue to ignore you now. Jackson fam loony toons are not welcome in the discussion: this is for minimally intelligent users only. But I'll tell you this, knowing full well you're in a psycho bubble and even though your opinion on this matter has as much credibility as the people who claim Illuminati killed MJ. The Jacksons are nothing but leeches who feel entitled to MJ's money and overall success. They were his worst enemies. Not even people like Diane Dimond did what they did: drown the press with pejorative rumours about their brother every time they couldn't get their way or passing a certain dark image of him to get money. I'll never forget how they told police MJ had "tad heroin and stockpiles of marijuana in the house" in addition to motivating them to find "more narcotics" while portraying him as a raging drug-addict who needed interventions. As if the Jacksons ever tried an intervention! Most of them abandoned their own children let alone care for their brother!!! All so they could have an argument to sue AEG: let's claim negligence on their part because they knew he was a junkie and still pressured him to perform. Joe Jackson and buddy Leonard Rowe started bombarding the press with slandering rumours on Michael as soon as they realized they couldn't get a piece of the TII pie (after harrassing him and coming up with all kinds of schemes including a lawsuit). Randy Jackson, the biggest schemer of the brothers, was the one planting rumours of MJ the drug AND alcohol addict. His family is trash. They're going to hound those 3 kids and come up with all kinds of schemes to get their money.

Scorp said:

ML2016 said:

Random thought. Don't you all love it, when greasy Jermaine Jackson says Michael would be nothing without the Jackson 5 and that his sucess and money are the family's? I'd say it's the otehr way around!

Jermaine always said the influence of the Jackson Five set the foundation for everyone's success, he's been saying that for decades because its true And the reason he keeps stressing because he knows the antagonists are so driven to erase that from the history books in order to keep exploiting Michael Jackson's name, which that formula has akready ran outta formula [Edited 7/1/16 9:25am]

This is not what he said. That is, simply put, a lie. Your record is one of a shameless liar, actually. Jermaine said Michael would be NOTHING without the J5 and that "his success is the family's". That's why they always felt entitled to his money: they believe they made MJ which is ridiculous.

Stop editing things.

ML2016 said:

ML2016 said:

Random thought. Don't you all love it, when greasy Jermaine Jackson says Michael would be nothing without the Jackson 5 and that his sucess and money are the family's? I'd say it's the otehr way around!

I think Jermaine is very talented and I liked the music he did with Whitney. I thought by now he'd be a producer for hire. In fact I thought all of them would branch out in different areas of the entertainment field. But I think Joe raised the siblings to believe that they couldn't be successful without MJ, and MJ was nothing without them......as a means of control. As a result Michael resented some of his family for relying to heavily on him for money/businness deals etc and some of the siblings resenting him for his talent and success. Thus creating the drama we have seen over the years.

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Exactly, I got that feeling too, Joe was emphasising the brothers as a family and a unit and on the surface did not want to elevate one brother amongst the other. But even Joe could not be so blind to see Michael was much more talented than all the others and that he was a one in a zillion talent, still Joe for all his faults was a family man.

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He may have sawn too, that involving all the brothers in the music, would keep them off the streets and doing something productive with their time, that would bring happiness to many people. And it is not like the brothers had no talent, they had heaps. Jackie wrote a lot of songs with MJ and he had a good voice. Tito was the self taught instrumentalist and without him, there would be no J5 had he not been caught messing around with Joe's guitar (Plus he had to take one for the team when Joe whopped his ass for it). Jermaine also had a lot of talent and played bass, his voice was pretty good too. Marlon may be the less talented one, but he learnt how to become a good dancer quickly and plus Marlon is a real extrovert and like Jermaine, he can be the face of the group. Plus put them together, and they are a fabulous song and dance team with great blending harmonies.

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I would never write these guys off, their talent and their discipline and despite his flaws, Joe had the talent too, he may have whopped his kids asses, but he also ensured they never went hungry and was the first person to believe in and get completely behind them in their talent. Okay Joe was a bully, but at elast he cared about his kids and wanted to see them succeed, and of course Katherine was the rock, all the brothers loved her and respected her deeply.

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So yeah I think the Jackson family, not just the Jackson 5 were responsible for a lot of Michael's talent, Joe and Katherine both sang a bit and Michael must have inherited some his talent off them, some was a gift from God and the rest was created by Michael Jackson, after all he was magic!

I know alot of the media are bringing up MJ's name over the recent Lisa Marie Presley's divorce announcement, which she now has changed to filing a legal separation. http://www.eonline.com/ne...separation where she accussing him of stealing her money, verbal abuse and requesting monitored visitation of their children.

I find this very ironic how Priscilla Presley over the years (especially on The Oprah Winfrey 2005 show) was accussing MJ of wanting her daughter's name, babies and fortune to latch onto his own legacy, yet this guy she supported so openly and gushing about (even proclaiming that he reminded her of Elvis ) is the one hurting Lisa for his own gain. IMO I think Lisa let her hubby manage her money because she had a mental breakdown after Michael's death 7 years ago, and after she fired some of the long time staff of manipulating and stealing from her. Interesting news indeed

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Adorecream said:

Exactly, I got that feeling too, Joe was emphasising the brothers as a family and a unit and on the surface did not want to elevate one brother amongst the other. But even Joe could not be so blind to see Michael was much more talented than all the others and that he was a one in a zillion talent, still Joe for all his faults was a family man.

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He may have sawn too, that involving all the brothers in the music, would keep them off the streets and doing something productive with their time, that would bring happiness to many people. And it is not like the brothers had no talent, they had heaps. Jackie wrote a lot of songs with MJ and he had a good voice. Tito was the self taught instrumentalist and without him, there would be no J5 had he not been caught messing around with Joe's guitar (Plus he had to take one for the team when Joe whopped his ass for it). Jermaine also had a lot of talent and played bass, his voice was pretty good too. Marlon may be the less talented one, but he learnt how to become a good dancer quickly and plus Marlon is a real extrovert and like Jermaine, he can be the face of the group. Plus put them together, and they are a fabulous song and dance team with great blending harmonies.

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I would never write these guys off, their talent and their discipline and despite his flaws, Joe had the talent too, he may have whopped his kids asses, but he also ensured they never went hungry and was the first person to believe in and get completely behind them in their talent. Okay Joe was a bully, but at elast he cared about his kids and wanted to see them succeed, and of course Katherine was the rock, all the brothers loved her and respected her deeply.

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So yeah I think the Jackson family, not just the Jackson 5 were responsible for a lot of Michael's talent, Joe and Katherine both sang a bit and Michael must have inherited some his talent off them, some was a gift from God and the rest was created by Michael Jackson, after all he was magic!

Top that off add JohVonnie Jackson to the mix, an illegitimate child who is allowed to call Joe "dad" while MJ and his siblings were not allowed to address him as that!

Goddess4Real said:

Scorp said:

Goddess4Real said:

I know alot of the media are bringing up MJ's name over the recent Lisa Marie Presley's divorce announcement, which she now has changed to filing a legal separation. http://www.eonline.com/ne...separation where she accussing him of stealing her money, verbal abuse and requesting monitored visitation of their children.

I find this very ironic how Priscilla Presley over the years (especially on The Oprah Winfrey 2005 show) was accussing MJ of wanting her daughter's name, babies and fortune to latch onto his own legacy, yet this guy she supported so openly and gushing about (even proclaiming that he reminded her of Elvis ) is the one hurting Lisa for his own gain. IMO I think Lisa let her hubby manage her money because she had a mental breakdown after Michael's death 7 years ago, and after she fired some of the long time staff of manipulating and stealing from her. Interesting news indeed

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There wasn't any money in the end

He probably spent LMP's money on those expensive custom guitars and fancy hats Don't u find it funny that the 3 major men in her life was named "Michael"?

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Goddess4Real said:

I know alot of the media are bringing up MJ's name over the recent Lisa Marie Presley's divorce announcement, which she now has changed to filing a legal separation. http://www.eonline.com/ne...separation where she accussing him of stealing her money, verbal abuse and requesting monitored visitation of their children.

I find this very ironic how Priscilla Presley over the years (especially on The Oprah Winfrey 2005 show) was accussing MJ of wanting her daughter's name, babies and fortune to latch onto his own legacy, yet this guy she supported so openly and gushing about (even proclaiming that he reminded her of Elvis ) is the one hurting Lisa for his own gain. IMO I think Lisa let her hubby manage her money because she had a mental breakdown after Michael's death 7 years ago, and after she fired some of the long time staff of manipulating and stealing from her. Interesting news indeed

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Thats dumb on Lisa's part. I am not sure why she would allow her husband to manage her money. He has no experience in management or finance. I honestly don't feel sorry for her. She seems to be the problem in her failed marriages. She can't blame the men anymore. Its obviously her. She should try being single for a while and raising her kids.

Priscilla is a racist bish and never liked Michael.

Goddess4Real said:

Scorp said:

Goddess4Real said: There wasn't any money in the end

He probably spent LMP's money on those expensive custom guitars and fancy hats Don't u find it funny that the 3 major men in her life was named "Michael"?

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Very interesting you point that out. I wonder what happened in her relationship with Lockwood. For her to want monitored visitation it sounds like that marriage was rocky for some time.

mjscarousal said:

Goddess4Real said:

I know alot of the media are bringing up MJ's name over the recent Lisa Marie Presley's divorce announcement, which she now has changed to filing a legal separation. http://www.eonline.com/ne...separation where she accussing him of stealing her money, verbal abuse and requesting monitored visitation of their children.

I find this very ironic how Priscilla Presley over the years (especially on The Oprah Winfrey 2005 show) was accussing MJ of wanting her daughter's name, babies and fortune to latch onto his own legacy, yet this guy she supported so openly and gushing about (even proclaiming that he reminded her of Elvis ) is the one hurting Lisa for his own gain. IMO I think Lisa let her hubby manage her money because she had a mental breakdown after Michael's death 7 years ago, and after she fired some of the long time staff of manipulating and stealing from her. Interesting news indeed

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Thats dumb on Lisa's part. I am not sure why she would allow her husband to manage her money. He has no experience in management or finance. I honestly don't feel sorry for her. She seems to be the problem in her failed marriages. She can't blame the men anymore. Its obviously her. She should try being single for a while and raising her kids.

Priscilla is a racist bish and never liked Michael.

Don't u know Michael Lockwood is a Gretsch Addict https://www.youtube.com/w...cysXSgae7k Last year I got Child Bride: The Untold Story of Priscilla Beaulieu Presley by Suzanne Finstad from a bookfair, and its a page turner that cover's LMP unpleasant upbringing (in particular the Michael Edwards drama) and why Priscilla disliked MJ.

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mjscarousal said:

Goddess4Real said:

He probably spent LMP's money on those expensive custom guitars and fancy hats Don't u find it funny that the 3 major men in her life was named "Michael"?

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Very interesting you point that out. I wonder what happened in her relationship with Lockwood. For her to want monitored visitation it sounds like that marriage was rocky for some time.

Maybe he got bored being a "kept man". When LMP said in those court doc that she didn't want any of his money.......I was like he has NONE, that is why he is spending her money and all the perks that come with it.

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mjscarousal said:

Goddess4Real said:

He probably spent LMP's money on those expensive custom guitars and fancy hats Don't u find it funny that the 3 major men in her life was named "Michael"?

[Edited 7/1/16 19:40pm]

Very interesting you point that out. I wonder what happened in her relationship with Lockwood. For her to want monitored visitation it sounds like that marriage was rocky for some time.

And he has gone into hiding according to People Mag, so she can't serve those divorce papers (that has now been changed to legal separation). I remember LMP saying in one of those interviews (using MJ to promote her music around 2005 when she was in full bashfest along with her mother) that she didn't want kids with MJ because she was worried about a custody fight etc.......but look what has happend to her now? her "soul mate" is the one doing her wrong. I wonder also if Lockwood is also getting back at her for all the songs about MJ (eg. Just a Dream, I was Wrong etc) on her last album? What surprised me when it came out in 2012 she kept the MJ talk to a minimum, when everyone and their momma was using MJ to promote themselves. Go figure.

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Goddess4Real said:

mjscarousal said:

Very interesting you point that out. I wonder what happened in her relationship with Lockwood. For her to want monitored visitation it sounds like that marriage was rocky for some time.

Maybe he got bored being a "kept man". When LMP said in those court doc that she didn't want any of his money.......I was like he has NONE, that is why he is spending her money and all the perks that come with it.

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He did seem to be her lap dog. Lisa seems to like submissive men that cater to her beck and call. She is spoiled and bratty and likes to be the "center of attention" He didn't mind it because of the perks and money.

Goddess4Real said:

mjscarousal said:

Very interesting you point that out. I wonder what happened in her relationship with Lockwood. For her to want monitored visitation it sounds like that marriage was rocky for some time.

And he has gone into hiding according to People Mag, so she can't serve those divorce papers (that has now been changed to legal separation). I remember LMP saying in one of those interviews (using MJ to promote her music around 2005 when she was in full bashfest along with her mother) that she didn't want kids with MJ because she was worried about a custody fight etc.......but look what has happend to her now? her "soul mate" is the one doing her wrong. I wonder also if Lockwood is also getting back at her for all the songs about MJ (eg. Just a Dream, I was Wrong etc) on her last album? What surprised me when it came out in 2012 she kept the MJ talk to a minimum, when everyone and their momma was using MJ to promote themselves. Go figure.

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Yea she was raving about how she always knew that Lockwood would have her kids and that he was her soul mate...blah blah blah. Lisa is one fake confused bish. I really can't stand her. Your right, she insisted how she did not want to have kids with Michael because she didnt want to get into a big custody battle but that appears to be what might happen now with this seperation. I honestly dont think lisa ever planned on having kids with Michael. She seems confused, immature, and doesn't know what she wants.

mjscarousal said:

Goddess4Real said:

And he has gone into hiding according to People Mag, so she can't serve those divorce papers (that has now been changed to legal separation). I remember LMP saying in one of those interviews (using MJ to promote her music around 2005 when she was in full bashfest along with her mother) that she didn't want kids with MJ because she was worried about a custody fight etc.......but look what has happend to her now? her "soul mate" is the one doing her wrong. I wonder also if Lockwood is also getting back at her for all the songs about MJ (eg. Just a Dream, I was Wrong etc) on her last album? What surprised me when it came out in 2012 she kept the MJ talk to a minimum, when everyone and their momma was using MJ to promote themselves. Go figure.

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Yea she was raving about how she always knew that Lockwood would have her kids and that he was her soul mate...blah blah blah. Lisa is one fake confused bish. I really can't stand her. Your right, she insisted how she did not want to have kids with Michael because she didnt want to get into a big custody battle but that appears to be what might happen now with this seperation. I honestly dont think lisa ever planned on having kids with Michael. She seems confused, immature, and doesn't know what she wants.

Yuupppp, The Presleys saw MJ as a monster (even though Priscilla has acknowledged that she thought MJ was talented as an "entertainer") out to get his hands on the Presley estate , while Lockwood was seen as a saint. It's gonna be interesting how this latest news pans out.

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mjscarousal said:

ML2016 said:

LMP claims Lockwood "was abusive". She said the same thing about MJ as per John Ocszaja ot Chewbacca or whatever his last name was.

good one, but lets face it LMP and her mother bashed MJ the most, especially in 2005.

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Goddess4Real said:

Free2BMe said:

Goddess4Real said:

good one, but lets face it LMP and her mother bashed MJ the most, especially in 2005.

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I have never heard LM say that Michael was abusive.

made up concoctions lollll

Free2BMe said:

Goddess4Real said:

good one, but lets face it LMP and her mother bashed MJ the most, especially in 2005.

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I have never heard LM say that Michael was abusive.

Abusive in term of manipulating http://www.people.com/peo...84,00.html

Scorp said:

Free2BMe said:

Goddess4Real said: I have never heard LM say that Michael was abusive.

made up concoctions lollll

Lets walk down memory lane back to Oprah 2005 https://www.youtube.com/w...d1Etq56AsA and here https://www.youtube.com/w...aqnj3dDUOY

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