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Reply #90 posted 05/09/16 10:54pm

kingcheetah

mjscarousal said:

purplesweat said:

I think people are missing that she has decided to admit she was cheated on and the album is her working through not only that slight to her image/empire/womanhood/marriage but also forgiving him (which contrasts so many of her songs) and repairing the marriage rather than kicking him to the curb. This is creative territory Beyonce's lyrics haven't entered before, she's never had songs about a guy doing her wrong then her actually staying with him. There's a lot of explaining to do in that, as well as the vulnerability of admitting she forgave someone who probably slept around.

LOL This is completely not true. She has songs like, "Irreplacable" "If I were a boy", and even her last album she singed about her husband cheating on her. So she has pretty much been singing about the same subject matter most of her career. I dont see how that is growth.I don't see how you can call an artist vunerable who needs 6 to 7 songwriters for every single song. Even on this album there is 8 songwriters for one song but yet this is suppose to be her showing vunerability? This is nothing more than a cheap marketing ploy to garner records. I don't see how you can call yourself a feminist but then sing about being okay that your husband cheats on you. She is probably the fakest artist of all time, nothing about her brand makes any sense at all.

The fact that you think "Irreplaceable" and "If I Were a Boy" are songs about forgiving someone.............

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Reply #91 posted 05/09/16 11:32pm

getxxxx

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kingcheetah said:

mjscarousal said:

LOL This is completely not true. She has songs like, "Irreplacable" "If I were a boy", and even her last album she singed about her husband cheating on her.

The fact that you think "Irreplaceable" and "If I Were a Boy" are songs about forgiving someone.............

But she didnt write those songs above....

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Reply #92 posted 05/10/16 5:44am

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hah!


Cinny said:

I realize I am a secret Beyoncé stan, because I bought Lemonade on Friday along with HitNRun: Phase Two and listened to Lemonade FIRST eek all the way through without skipping.



So did you hear HitNRunII before Friday?

I got my Amazon delivery over a week ago.
The CD is still lying on my desk. still packed.
I didn't do any downloads or streaming preview before the physical release. So I still do not really know what it will sound like.
But I just can't push myself to open the plastic, let alone listen to it.

I have no problem to revisit all his old stuff almost 24x7. The last 3 weeks I have rediscocered songs which I haven't been listening to for many, many years.

But not HNR2. I know it will be the last new official Prince work I will ever have.

I just can't. Not yet.
I don't know if it will be days, weeks or months til then.
I just know it will be special. for me it will mark the end of an era that lasted 35 years.





oh, I have previewed the Beyonce album over iTunes though. nice.




[Edited 5/10/16 6:56am]

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Reply #93 posted 05/11/16 4:58pm

kingcheetah

getxxxx said:

kingcheetah said:

The fact that you think "Irreplaceable" and "If I Were a Boy" are songs about forgiving someone.............

But she didnt write those songs above....

She wrote on "Irreplaceable".

Either way... so? They're still not about forgiving someone.

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Reply #94 posted 05/11/16 5:19pm

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Hold up is great, i love it.

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Reply #95 posted 05/11/16 5:26pm

mjscarousal

kingcheetah said:

mjscarousal said:

LOL This is completely not true. She has songs like, "Irreplacable" "If I were a boy", and even her last album she singed about her husband cheating on her. So she has pretty much been singing about the same subject matter most of her career. I dont see how that is growth.I don't see how you can call an artist vunerable who needs 6 to 7 songwriters for every single song. Even on this album there is 8 songwriters for one song but yet this is suppose to be her showing vunerability? This is nothing more than a cheap marketing ploy to garner records. I don't see how you can call yourself a feminist but then sing about being okay that your husband cheats on you. She is probably the fakest artist of all time, nothing about her brand makes any sense at all.

The fact that you think "Irreplaceable" and "If I Were a Boy" are songs about forgiving someone.............

My point is that she covers the same topics with each of her releases. The subject that she talks about on this album is no different from her last album and previous albums. There is no growth at all. Ive listened to the clips and I am not impressed. Rihanna's album is way better. Beyonce can shit out daisies and some of you all will still call it genius, its ridiculous.

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Reply #96 posted 05/12/16 3:58pm

kingcheetah

mjscarousal said:

kingcheetah said:

The fact that you think "Irreplaceable" and "If I Were a Boy" are songs about forgiving someone.............

My point is that she covers the same topics with each of her releases. The subject that she talks about on this album is no different from her last album and previous albums. There is no growth at all. Ive listened to the clips and I am not impressed. Rihanna's album is way better. Beyonce can shit out daisies and some of you all will still call it genius, its ridiculous.

My point is that EVIDENTLY you will pull bullshit out of your brain and find some way to hate on Beyoncé. neutral And "Irreplaceable" and "If I Were a Boy" are still not songs about forgiving someone. "If I Were a Boy" isn't even necessarily about cheating.

The "subject" on this album is an arc of betrayal, anguish, forgiveness. Where was this on her previous album? Actually find a single song in Beyoncé's catalog that is about forgiveness. I'll wait (forever).

Rihanna's album of rejected, badly sung demos does not compare to this in any favorable way. Not even the song where she ripped off "Superpower".

Beyoncé could pull the cure for cancer out of her pussy and you would still sit up whining about why she couldn't resurrect MJ, or something. Foolish.

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Reply #97 posted 05/12/16 5:09pm

getxxxx

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kingcheetah said:

getxxxx said:

But she didnt write those songs above....

She wrote on "Irreplaceable".

Either way... so? They're still not about forgiving someone.

Actually the song was done when she received it from Ne-Yo she added an melody for a writing credit. Like she always does.

If I Was A Boywritten by BC Jean and Toby Gad, who also handled its production alongside Beyoncé. Inspired by the difficult break-up of a romantic relationship, the song was initially recorded by Jean, whose record company rejected it. Beyoncé then recorded her own version. Jean was upset when she learned that Beyoncé was releasing it as a single, but eventually they reached an agreement.

[Edited 5/12/16 17:21pm]

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Reply #98 posted 05/13/16 9:20pm

kingcheetah

getxxxx said:

kingcheetah said:

She wrote on "Irreplaceable".

Either way... so? They're still not about forgiving someone.

Actually the song was done when she received it from Ne-Yo she added an melody for a writing credit. Like she always does.

If I Was A Boywritten by BC Jean and Toby Gad, who also handled its production alongside Beyoncé. Inspired by the difficult break-up of a romantic relationship, the song was initially recorded by Jean, whose record company rejected it. Beyoncé then recorded her own version. Jean was upset when she learned that Beyoncé was releasing it as a single, but eventually they reached an agreement.

[Edited 5/12/16 17:21pm]

If she added a melody, it wasn't "done".

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Reply #99 posted 05/14/16 5:21pm

Cinny

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Dancelot said:

hah!


Cinny said:

I realize I am a secret Beyoncé stan, because I bought Lemonade on Friday along with HitNRun: Phase Two and listened to Lemonade FIRST eek all the way through without skipping.



So did you hear HitNRunII before Friday?

I got my Amazon delivery over a week ago.
The CD is still lying on my desk. still packed.
I didn't do any downloads or streaming preview before the physical release. So I still do not really know what it will sound like.
But I just can't push myself to open the plastic, let alone listen to it.

I have no problem to revisit all his old stuff almost 24x7. The last 3 weeks I have rediscocered songs which I haven't been listening to for many, many years.

But not HNR2. I know it will be the last new official Prince work I will ever have.

I just can't. Not yet.
I don't know if it will be days, weeks or months til then.
I just know it will be special. for me it will mark the end of an era that lasted 35 years.





oh, I have previewed the Beyonce album over iTunes though. nice.


I streamed every preview clip of HitNRunII the day it hit Tidal, but expected it to eventually make its way to CD. CD

Like, I may never hear The Life Of Pablo if Kanye West never commits it to disc. eek

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Reply #100 posted 05/14/16 7:06pm

getxxxx

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Cinny said:

Dancelot said:

hah!




So did you hear HitNRunII before Friday?

I got my Amazon delivery over a week ago.
The CD is still lying on my desk. still packed.
I didn't do any downloads or streaming preview before the physical release. So I still do not really know what it will sound like.
But I just can't push myself to open the plastic, let alone listen to it.

I have no problem to revisit all his old stuff almost 24x7. The last 3 weeks I have rediscocered songs which I haven't been listening to for many, many years.

But not HNR2. I know it will be the last new official Prince work I will ever have.

I just can't. Not yet.
I don't know if it will be days, weeks or months til then.
I just know it will be special. for me it will mark the end of an era that lasted 35 years.





oh, I have previewed the Beyonce album over iTunes though. nice.


I streamed every preview clip of HitNRunII the day it hit Tidal, but expected it to eventually make its way to CD. CD

Like, I may never hear The Life Of Pablo if Kanye West never commits it to disc. eek

HNRII had been on cd since dec 2015

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Reply #101 posted 05/14/16 9:07pm

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BACK ON TOPIC HERE:

The Beyoncé and Mariah collab is NOT called Twisted, and a music video has already been filmed to accompany it. We've got a possible date. (viatwitter) either its for Mariah new project or a repackage of LEMONADE

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Reply #102 posted 05/15/16 10:42am

Cinny

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getxxxx said:

Cinny said:

I streamed every preview clip of HitNRunII the day it hit Tidal, but expected it to eventually make its way to CD. CD

Like, I may never hear The Life Of Pablo if Kanye West never commits it to disc. eek

HNRII had been on cd since dec 2015

Yeah, I'm aware, as a high priced Paisley Park collectible.

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Reply #103 posted 05/15/16 10:44am

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The visual for Lemonade is a LOT to take in. I'm glad I got acquainted with the album first before taking a splash into the movie.

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Reply #104 posted 05/16/16 2:00pm

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So i still havent listened to the full project but Love Drought was playing on the radio. I was shocked to find out that was her. I wonder how much she really wrote on this track with Mike Dean and Ingrid Burley.

Beyoncé’s LEMONADE is filled with incredible artistry and stunning imagery. One of the most striking images for me on the visual album, though, occurs in the video for “Love Drought”. Much has been said about how LEMONADE draws influence from Julie Dash’s Daughters of the Dust, but less has been said in these same conversations about how the story of Igbo Landing is central to Daughters of the Dust and how the story of Igbo Landing- an act of mass resistance against slavery-also shows up in a really pronounced manner in the “Love Drought” Video.

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