Don't be ridiculous; if you can actually stomach such a thing. Where were you in 2003 when I was in this same forum arguing that Led Zeppelin were crooks who profitted off of unsung Black musicians? As usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Look, it is my contention that Justin Timberlake gets hated on by nitwits in this forum because he refers to the Michael Jackson template often for his recording arts career; and he's adored by the media, who many prop him up as the MJ successor. This bothers some of y'all, and rightly so. Why is this rightly so? Well, because the media (i.e., white people) have a history of deni- grating Black American art forms but as soon as a white person incorporates these very same forms, they act like said white performer is some type of new-fangled genius (see, Presley, El- vis Aaron, for example). But this has nothing to do with Timberlake; you can't hate him for liking Michael Jackson and using him as a template. If you're going to be butt-hurt, take it out on the media!
Justin Timberlake is not a culture vulture for liking Black American music/art forms. Y'all don't like him because he's a white boy doing "Black" music and he gets treated in the press like he's the greatest thing in music since sliced bread.
Don't be ridiculous; if you can actually stomach such a thing. Where were you in 2003 when I was in this same forum arguing that Led Zeppelin were crooks who profitted off of unsung Black musicians? As usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Look, it is my contention that Justin Timberlake gets hated on by nitwits in this forum because he refers to the Michael Jackson template often for his recording arts career; and he's adored by the media, who many prop him up as the MJ successor. This bothers some of y'all, and rightly so. Why is this rightly so? Well, because the media (i.e., white people) have a history of deni- grating Black American art forms but as soon as a white person incorporates these very same forms, they act like said white performer is some type of new-fangled genius (see, Presley, El- vis Aaron, for example). But this has nothing to do with Timberlake; you can't hate him for liking Michael Jackson and using him as a template. If you're going to be butt-hurt, take it out on the media!
Justin Timberlake is not a culture vulture for liking Black American music/art forms. Y'all don't like him because he's a white boy doing "Black" music and he gets treated in the press like he's the greatest thing in music since sliced bread.
(The above is in response to Dayze's most recent reply to me)
Don't be ridiculous; if you can actually stomach such a thing. Where were you in 2003 when I was in this same forum arguing that Led Zeppelin were crooks who profitted off of unsung Black musicians? As usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Look, it is my contention that Justin Timberlake gets hated on by nitwits in this forum because he refers to the Michael Jackson template often for his recording arts career; and he's adored by the media, who many prop him up as the MJ successor. This bothers some of y'all, and rightly so. Why is this rightly so? Well, because the media (i.e., white people) have a history of deni- grating Black American art forms but as soon as a white person incorporates these very same forms, they act like said white performer is some type of new-fangled genius (see, Presley, El- vis Aaron, for example). But this has nothing to do with Timberlake; you can't hate him for liking Michael Jackson and using him as a template. If you're going to be butt-hurt, take it out on the media!
Justin Timberlake is not a culture vulture for liking Black American music/art forms. Y'all don't like him because he's a white boy doing "Black" music and he gets treated in the press like he's the greatest thing in music since sliced bread.
Justin emulates also & used many of his ex bandmenbers live...
will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P.
^ He is... but nobody will ever call him out for it BUT they bashed IGGY though.
JT is the original culture vulture and has made an ENTIRE career off of it. The modern day Elvis.
Iggy's no better though. JT doesn't receive enough criticism but Iggy got what was coming to her.
Absolutely agree. I should have written that better. I meant to say that if IGGY can get trashed for her culture vulture why doesn't JT? He gets a pass with EVERYTHING. He is similiar to Beyonce in that respect. I don't think he has every been harshly criticized for anything.
because Timberlake is a man...historically speaking, white women "acting black", are more offensive than a white man who "acts black", to those who take such things into consideration...
Don't be ridiculous; if you can actually stomach such a thing. Where were you in 2003 when I was in this same forum arguing that Led Zeppelin were crooks who profitted off of unsung Black musicians? As usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Look, it is my contention that Justin Timberlake gets hated on by nitwits in this forum because he refers to the Michael Jackson template often for his recording arts career; and he's adored by the media, who many prop him up as the MJ successor. This bothers some of y'all, and rightly so. Why is this rightly so? Well, because the media (i.e., white people) have a history of deni- grating Black American art forms but as soon as a white person incorporates these very same forms, they act like said white performer is some type of new-fangled genius (see, Presley, El- vis Aaron, for example). But this has nothing to do with Timberlake; you can't hate him for liking Michael Jackson and using him as a template. If you're going to be butt-hurt, take it out on the media!
Justin Timberlake is not a culture vulture for liking Black American music/art forms. Y'all don't like him because he's a white boy doing "Black" music and he gets treated in the press like he's the greatest thing in music since sliced bread.
Justin emulates also & used many of his ex bandmenbers live...
I would argue that he doesn't but it certainly is possible that I'm missing a Prince component in Timberlake's body of work.
Absolutely agree. I should have written that better. I meant to say that if IGGY can get trashed for her culture vulture why doesn't JT? He gets a pass with EVERYTHING. He is similiar to Beyonce in that respect. I don't think he has every been harshly criticized for anything.
because Timberlake is a man...historically speaking, white women "acting black", are more offensive than a white man who "acts black", to those who take such things into consideration...
Absolutely agree. I should have written that better. I meant to say that if IGGY can get trashed for her culture vulture why doesn't JT? He gets a pass with EVERYTHING. He is similiar to Beyonce in that respect. I don't think he has every been harshly criticized for anything.
because Timberlake is a WHITE man...historically speaking, white women "acting black", are more offensive than a white man who "acts black", to those who take such things into consideration...
mjscarousal said: because Timberlake is a WHITE man...historically speaking, white women "acting black", are more offensive than a white man who "acts black", to those who take such things into consideration...
Correction
Regardless of whether or not your post is an attempt at irony, the fact remains that a portion of Justin Timberlake's success and praise could be attributed to the color of his skin. Yet, this is not something Timberlake himself should be blamed for. I don't think JT "acts black." But clearly he's a fan of Black musicianship as, if I'm not mistaken, his band is composed mostly of Blacks. Again, this is not something to castigate him for! He's a fan of Black American art forms, but it still doesnt make him a "culture vulture" and it is a dumb ass reason to dislike him because of how he is per- ceived by white journalists who are going to ride for their own. You old jazz heads will remember one Gerry Mulligan; and you young thundercats who think you know everything will definitely re- member Macklemore and Ryan Lewis.
If the negative feelings for JT arise from his championing in the press by white media members, then your beef is not with him - he's doing him and him love him some MJ - your beef is with the media.
Pharrell tried to strongarm Jive to get Clipse released by saying he would not work on new Justin Timberlake until that happened.
Now that it is all water under the bridge, and Timbaland looks like he's on to new things, the timing seems right for this collaboration. I don't think Justin has worked with Pharrell since Justified?
He worked on Pharrell's last album "Girl". But still that could have also been in Pharrell's vault already done & he just added it on his album. Again I'm glad they're back together.
"Brand New" was one of the best songs on the album. A romping good tune with Off The WAll influences.
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
Well I just thought I brought it to your attention since you like addressing people like they are a garden tool. Sit down and Get over yourself and that is all I am going to say to you. You have shown me on more than one occasion you lack the capacity to disagree respectfully and maturely so this is my last message to you, have a good day asshole.
Notice how quick he was to be rude and bring up race in this discussion when no one else mentioned it first.....amazing how people on the Org (and beyond) get up in arms about the Beatles and Justin Timberlake but don't have that same passion for the very artists that laid the foundation of the sound that those artists imitated.....there's nothing new under the sun huh?
Oh yea he gets like this in these JT discussions. He is a JT stan. Pay it no mind.
Seeing JT aka culture vulture aka modern Elvis aka "the Great white hope" in the same sentence with legendary MJ is the funniest thing I've read ALL day.
Notice how quick he was to be rude and bring up race in this discussion when no one else mentioned it first.....amazing how people on the Org (and beyond) get up in arms about the Beatles and Justin Timberlake but don't have that same passion for the very artists that laid the foundation of the sound that those artists imitated.....there's nothing new under the sun huh?
Oh yea he gets like this in these JT discussions. He is a JT stan. Pay it no mind.
Yeah, l don't think he'll be over in the Little Richard thread fuming and going crazy like he's doing in this thread about TimberFake. Oh well. I guess we have to ignore the originators and praise the imitators that have been ripping off MJ for their ENTIRE CAREER and haven't contributed anything unique in their own right for, you know, two decades!!
Seeing JT aka culture vulture aka modern Elvis aka "the Great white hope" in the same sentence with legendary MJ is the funniest thing I've read ALL day.
Hush yo' mouth! We outta be grateful to God Almighty to be on the Earth at the same time as TimberFake
Oh yea he gets like this in these JT discussions. He is a JT stan. Pay it no mind.
Yeah, l don't think he'll be over in the Little Richard thread fuming and going crazy like he's doing in this thread about TimberFake. Oh well. I guess we have to ignore the originators and praise the imitators that have been ripping off MJ for their ENTIRE CAREER and haven't contributed anything unique in their own right for, you know, two decades!!
I will never forget that time, that postered implied JT was similiar to the great Sammy Davis Jr, and Chile, it ain't worth it with that JT stan Lost cause, let it go
Oh yea he gets like this in these JT discussions. He is a JT stan. Pay it no mind.
Yeah, l don't think he'll be over in the Little Richard thread fuming and going crazy like he's doing in this thread about TimberFake. Oh well. I guess we have to ignore the originators and praise the imitators that have been ripping off MJ for their ENTIRE CAREER and haven't contributed anything unique in their own right for, you know, two decades!!
I will never forget that time, that postered implied JT was similiar to the great Sammy Davis Jr, and Chile, it ain't worth it with that JT stan Lost cause, let it go
Omg. Next time I go to happy hour I'll look for that thread you mentioned and will enjoy the laugh!! Bottoms up!
Once again, I was able to covertly infiltrate another thread where the two biggest loudmouths in Music:Non-Prince, that'll be MJCarousal (Dolt 1) and SeventeenDayze (Dolt 2), two girls (neither can be over 25, I'm sure of it) who act like their opinions are on par with the Pentateuch, were unable to articulate a reason for said opinion when pressed intellectually and then devolved into trolling after accusing me of being one!
I will never get enough of administering an open and public intellectual beat down to you too dimwits, and then watching you resort to your regular routine/song and dance of trying to save face by trolling and playing the "oh, chile, honey lawd a'murcy" bit.
Is it me or does it seems that Justin is a fairweather type of artist. In other words, whichever producer between Timbo and Pharrell has the hot streak at the time or in recent history, he'll work with that producer. I am not the least bit surprised that he's going back to Pharrell after his recent successes he had between himself ("Happy") and Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines", and not to mention Daft Punk's "Get Lucky" and their Album of the Year, "Random Access Memory".
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This is such fucking bullshit:
Michael Jackson was the very same way! Dangerous is MJ's desire to do new jack swing, so who does he work with? The architect of new jack swing: Teddy Riley. Invincible is MJ's desire to do post new jack swing R&B music, so who does he work with? The architect of post new jack swing R&B music: Rodney Jerkins.
Timberlake is in the business of selling records. So, you're going to cast aspersions because his plan to do so includes working with hot producers who help sell records? It's like you nitwits want Justin Timberlake's white ass to do country-western and stop being influenced by Michael Jackson and not to work with popular black pop producers. You know what y'all sound like?
Racists.
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Were you implying that I'm racist because I stated my opinion of what appears to be just another case of trend chasing by a music act? I'm only asking since your original accusation or opinion was a direct response to my post.
It is Justin Timberlake's white privilege that gets his music played on R&B and Pop stations.
However, I am the same age as Justin Timberlake, and grew up in the same era when R&B went pop, the time when black stars were prominent on MTV, and "Rapper's Delight" is older than both of us.
To treat him as a culture vulture is silly. He was raised in the same pop culture that everyone has been in for DECADES.
Don't forget his early training as a child on Mickey Mouse club where they regularly sang R&B songs. Here's a skit with Xscape:
I will never forget that time, that postered implied JT was similiar to the great Sammy Davis Jr, and Chile, it ain't worth it with that JT stan Lost cause, let it go
Omg. Next time I go to happy hour I'll look for that thread you mentioned and will enjoy the laugh!! Bottoms up!
I will never forget that time, that postered implied JT was similiar to the great Sammy Davis Jr, and Chile, it ain't worth it with that JT stan Lost cause, let it go
Omg. Next time I go to happy hour I'll look for that thread you mentioned and will enjoy the laugh!! Bottoms up!
Michael Jackson was the very same way! Dangerous is MJ's desire to do new jack swing, so who does he work with? The architect of new jack swing: Teddy Riley. Invincible is MJ's desire to do post new jack swing R&B music, so who does he work with? The architect of post new jack swing R&B music: Rodney Jerkins.
Timberlake is in the business of selling records. So, you're going to cast aspersions because his plan to do so includes working with hot producers who help sell records? It's like you nitwits want Justin Timberlake's white ass to do country-western and stop being influenced by Michael Jackson and not to work with popular black pop producers. You know what y'all sound like?
Racists.
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Were you implying that I'm racist because I stated my opinion of what appears to be just another case of trend chasing by a music act? I'm only asking since your original accusation or opinion was a direct response to my post.
Yes; the implication in my total argument concerning how this board appears to be so vitriolic against Justin Timberlake is because he is a white man, who largely has the support of the white press who adores him and supports his quest to equal or momentarily replace Michael Jackson. It is utterly ridiculous to condemn him for appearing to chase musical trends; MJ never got this treatment from this board as he CLEARLY chased music trends! I rarely see anti-Chris Brown threads; I rarely see anti-Usher threads. Both artists are obvious Michael Jackson inspi- rations, and both artists chase trends. How do they manage to escape the enmity held for Justin Timberlake? Usher's entire career is one album following one trend after another. Chris Brown has no innovative bone in his body. But both singers are Black, so, is that why we never see the monthly "I hate Chris Brown/Usher" thread? Black singers are allowed to be explicitly influenced by Michael Jackson. But the one recording artist you're going to attack, for reasons I've already
explained are silly, is the southern white boy similarly stuck on MJ?
Like I said: it appears to be racist. And in this regard, the skin color of the hater has no regard. Musicslave, I don't know you well, but the hate that some posters have towards Justin Timber- lake in the Org is certainly strange and leaves one wondering where it is sourced from. I have no particular interest in JT other than some of his cuts are pretty dope. I just can't stand dumb people who make dumb claims and then can't back up any of their dumbness. And as you can see, by recent posts, there are some dumbass people in this forum who will go to great lengths to save face by appearing to actually enjoy being a dumbass.
It is Justin Timberlake's white privilege that gets his music played on R&B and Pop stations.
However, I am the same age as Justin Timberlake, and grew up in the same era when R&B went pop, the time when black stars were prominent on MTV, and "Rapper's Delight" is older than both of us.
To treat him as a culture vulture is silly. He was raised in the same pop culture that everyone has been in for DECADES.
Don't forget his early training as a child on Mickey Mouse club where they regularly sang R&B songs. Here's a skit with Xscape:
I absolutely agree with you. There is a difference between the affect that Iggy Azalea adopts that makes her accusations of being a culture vulture more applicable in ways that the charges JT faces in this thread by some completely untenable.
It is Justin Timberlake's white privilege that gets his music played on R&B and Pop stations.
However, I am the same age as Justin Timberlake, and grew up in the same era when R&B went pop, the time when black stars were prominent on MTV, and "Rapper's Delight" is older than both of us.
To treat him as a culture vulture is silly. He was raised in the same pop culture that everyone has been in for DECADES.
Don't forget his early training as a child on Mickey Mouse club where they regularly sang R&B songs. Here's a skit with Xscape:
How is he not when he has made an entire career off of ripping of black music? He gets 10 times the success of an R&B singer that makes better R&B music. He is a culture vulture.
It is Justin Timberlake's white privilege that gets his music played on R&B and Pop stations.
However, I am the same age as Justin Timberlake, and grew up in the same era when R&B went pop, the time when black stars were prominent on MTV, and "Rapper's Delight" is older than both of us.
To treat him as a culture vulture is silly. He was raised in the same pop culture that everyone has been in for DECADES.
Don't forget his early training as a child on Mickey Mouse club where they regularly sang R&B songs. Here's a skit with Xscape:
I absolutely agree with you. There is a difference between the affect that Iggy Azalea adopts that makes her accusations of being a culture vulture more applicable in ways that the charges JT faces in this thread by some completely untenable.
Thank you for posting this video! Justin was always gifted. To escape the pressures of being a child star & growing into a very successful adult. Is one of the many things he had in common with his idol MJ.
will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P.