^ Exactly. She is definitly not a priority. They responded 4 days later with that lame ass tweet to disgruntle/angry fans and then turn around and tweet about Dubai Her PR is so bad, that its unbelievable. Her PR and team during the 90's was perfection, definitly one of the best managements for sure. I also notice that Janet has burned bridges with a lot of people she has worked with in the past. I wonder what happened with all her past associations and why they fell out. I know about Tina but what about those other brilliant dancers? If its not broke, don't fix it. Why is she not with under someone who specifically deals with marketing or has managed other celebrities?

I think it would be really wise of her at this point not to break the U.S. dates.

I think she converted to Islam and only her husband knows. she might have told Jermaine because he's muslim too

Its pretty amazing that an artist that had a perfect run in the 80's en 90's makes such a mess of her career afterwards.

Maybe im old school, i like it when an album gets released, they release music videos of the singles, don't wait months for the next single, have a tour and dont cancel it

i like her last album a lot, didn't like much of discipline and 20yo. Pretty dissapointed with the cancels.

I just don't think she cares actually about her carreer.

If she really wanted to tour she would have made it possible, maybe book smaller venues.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

mjscarousal said:

Do you ever get tired of trolling?

I don't know why peeps here keep thinking I'm trolling...Im very passionate about what I believe in.

The thing with your comments is that you follow artists blind.

Artists are people. They make mistakes just like everybody else.

With all your comments you seem to be blind for those mistakes.

You say amen to everything an artist does. Thats scary.

Its not passion, its being blind.

Ive been a fan of janet all my life, but when something sucks, it sucks.

We are mature people, not people that believe in santa claus.

nextedition said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I don't know why peeps here keep thinking I'm trolling...Im very passionate about what I believe in.

The thing with your comments is that you follow artists blind.

Artists are people. They make mistakes just like everybody else.

With all your comments you seem to be blind for those mistakes.

You say amen to everything an artist does. Thats scary.

Its not passion, its being blind.

Ive been a fan of janet all my life, but when something sucks, it sucks.

We are mature people, not people that believe in santa claus.

Exactly. But then fans say that you're not a "true" fan (whatever the hell that means... I care, so I'm a fan), that you're a fairweather fan or they ban you. It's pathetic. Fans are sometimes like members of cult.

nextedition said:

If she really wanted to tour she would have made it possible, maybe book smaller venues.

Yes. But that would mean smaller profits, but obviously both Janet and Live Nation didn't want that.

nextedition said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I don't know why peeps here keep thinking I'm trolling...Im very passionate about what I believe in.

The thing with your comments is that you follow artists blind.

Artists are people. They make mistakes just like everybody else.

With all your comments you seem to be blind for those mistakes.

You say amen to everything an artist does. Thats scary.

Its not passion, its being blind.

Ive been a fan of janet all my life, but when something sucks, it sucks.

We are mature people, not people that believe in santa claus.

I'm not blind to ANYTHING! I was born @ night but not last night. I believe in spreading positivity not negativity. Me being in the entertainment industry since 12. I'm not going to pick my profession apart that I'm VERY passionate about. EVERYBODY I comment about either I worked with, met, or have a personal connection with. So why would I speak negative about them?

I love all of them. Some MORE than others.

PatrickS77 said:

nextedition said:

If she really wanted to tour she would have made it possible, maybe book smaller venues.

Yes. But that would mean smaller profits, but obviously both Janet and Live Nation didn't want that.

yeah true, i can imagine with the costs of the production they wouldn't make any money.

i wouldn't mind that the production would be much smaller, we cant excpect 90's concerts from her anymore.

It would have been the first time to see her live, never was able to see her past concerts.

She booked a hall here in amsterdam with capacity of 17.000.

People already reacted how she was gonna fill the place.

she didn't

nextedition said:

PatrickS77 said:

Yes. But that would mean smaller profits, but obviously both Janet and Live Nation didn't want that.

yeah true, i can imagine with the costs of the production they wouldn't make any money.

i wouldn't mind that the production would be much smaller, we cant excpect 90's concerts from her anymore.

It would have been the first time to see her live, never was able to see her past concerts.

She booked a hall here in amsterdam with capacity of 17.000.

People already reacted how she was gonna fill the place.

she didn't

Yes. I had a ticket and really, they could have just moved over to Heineken Music hall and get the show done. Really, the whole thing is not that elaborate, that they couldn't have accommodated. It's a shame really. Especially considering she also played theatres and smaller amphitheatres in the states.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

nextedition said:

The thing with your comments is that you follow artists blind.

Artists are people. They make mistakes just like everybody else.

With all your comments you seem to be blind for those mistakes.

You say amen to everything an artist does. Thats scary.

Its not passion, its being blind.

Ive been a fan of janet all my life, but when something sucks, it sucks.

We are mature people, not people that believe in santa claus.

I'm not blind to ANYTHING! I was born @ night but not last night. I believe in spreading positivity not negativity. Me being in the entertainment industry since 12. I'm not going to pick my profession apart that I'm VERY passionate about. EVERYBODY I comment about either I worked with, met, or have a personal connection with. So why would I speak negative about them?

I love all of them. Some MORE than others.

Loving someone is also criticizing someone. Being honest and not say amen to everything someone does.

But ok, you asked why people think you are trolling.

I gave you an answer.

You don't have to do anything with it.

sitive is not about

I don't think Janet has a legacy. She is not Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Aretha , or Etta James. If she has any legacy it's that she started the era of the producer based artist in which we now live. Basically anyone, talented or not, can hire themself a great producer and songwritting team and have a bunch of hits. I'm not saying Janet has no talent but she is not one of the greats. Without Jam and Lewis she doesn't get mentioned on threads like this one.

Janet has had number 1 hits without JJ&TL...

chrisslope9 said:

I don't think Janet has a legacy. She is not Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Aretha , or Etta James. If she has any legacy it's that she started the era of the producer based artist in which we now live. Basically anyone, talented or not, can hire themself a great producer and songwritting team and have a bunch of hits. I'm not saying Janet has no talent but she is not one of the greats. Without Jam and Lewis she doesn't get mentioned on threads like this one.

I wouldn't say she has no legacy. That's kind of an extreme statement.

chrisslope9 said:

I don't think Janet has a legacy. She is not Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Aretha , or Etta James. If she has any legacy it's that she started the era of the producer based artist in which we now live. Basically anyone, talented or not, can hire themself a great producer and songwritting team and have a bunch of hits. I'm not saying Janet has no talent but she is not one of the greats. Without Jam and Lewis she doesn't get mentioned on threads like this one.

Not true. J&L produced a lot of artists and they all didn't have the success of Janet.

Its about the whole package.

If it really was only about buying a hit, she would never have lasted this long.

She has 27 top 10 hits in the US, 7 number 1 albums, 10 top 5 albums in the Us.

You can really not say that its only because of J&L.

If that was true, Alexander O'neal, Karnyn White, Cherelle and all the others would have been major stars.

Noone of them had a number 1 album album, let al 7 number ones.

Yes , she is the sister of MJ, but the novelty would bring her maybe a few hits, not 27 top ten hits, 37 top 40 hits. In the 90's she was even more succesfull that MJ.

She was a major force in her prime.

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chrisslope9 said:

I don't think Janet has a legacy. She is not Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Aretha , or Etta James. If she has any legacy it's that she started the era of the producer based artist in which we now live. Basically anyone, talented or not, can hire themself a great producer and songwritting team and have a bunch of hits. I'm not saying Janet has no talent but she is not one of the greats. Without Jam and Lewis she doesn't get mentioned on threads like this one.

You've proven your first sentence wrong with everything that followed it.

Set aside the fact that you basically ignored her early career as an actress, dancer and entertainer. The fact you're even engaging in this debate over an artist whose career spans 40 years and hasn't had a hit in at least 10 PROVES that artist has a legacy, such as it is.

You raise legitimate arguments (mostly wrong, but legitimate) about the merits of Janet's career. But the issue of the thread isn't merit, it's legacy -- good, bad or otherise.

chrisslope9 said:

I don't think Janet has a legacy. She is not Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Aretha , or Etta James. If she has any legacy it's that she started the era of the producer based artist in which we now live. Basically anyone, talented or not, can hire themself a great producer and songwritting team and have a bunch of hits. I'm not saying Janet has no talent but she is not one of the greats. Without Jam and Lewis she doesn't get mentioned on threads like this one.

Ah. So you say the same thing about Tina Turner, Cher, Barbra Streisand, Whitney Houston and so on?? No? Right. But why do you say that about Janet? At least Janet co-writes her songs.

I have a new question that I want to pose, do you think Janet is happy with where her career is? I never see her smiling and she hardly interacts with her fans. In her song, "The Great Forever" she claims she is happy but I don't "see it" She always looks so unhappy.

chrisslope9 said:

I don't think Janet has a legacy. She is not Stevie Wonder, James Brown, Aretha , or Etta James. If she has any legacy it's that she started the era of the producer based artist in which we now live. Basically anyone, talented or not, can hire themself a great producer and songwritting team and have a bunch of hits. I'm not saying Janet has no talent but she is not one of the greats. Without Jam and Lewis she doesn't get mentioned on threads like this one.

Janet has a legacy. Deal with it.

mjscarousal said:

I have a new question that I want to pose, do you think Janet is happy with where her career is? I never see her smiling and she hardly interacts with her fans. In her song, "The Great Forever" she claims she is happy but I don't "see it" She always looks so unhappy.

I've never seen her happier or as content. Your reaching for something that is not even in existence. If she is forlorn is because she misses her brother..

Janet literally never looks happy when she is off stage. She doesn't look happy when she is with Wissam or just in general when she is out and about. Nobody is reaching for anything and leave Michael out of this!

mjscarousal said:

Janet literally never looks happy when she is off stage. She doesn't look happy when she is with Wissam or just in general when she is out and about. Nobody is reaching for anything and leave Michael out of this!

But come on, mjs, if MJ fans miss MJ deeply, how do we think Janet feels? Maybe she does blame the press scrutiny as a factor in what happened with MJ.

namepeace said:

mjscarousal said:

Janet literally never looks happy when she is off stage. She doesn't look happy when she is with Wissam or just in general when she is out and about. Nobody is reaching for anything and leave Michael out of this!

But come on, mjs, if MJ fans miss MJ deeply, how do we think Janet feels? Maybe she does blame the press scrutiny as a factor in what happened with MJ.

I am not insisting that Janet doesn't miss her brother because I am quite sure she does but I believe there might be other things going on in her personal life that we don't know about. She literally never looks happy at all and then there are these touring scheduling issues. I just feel other things are might be going on.

mjscarousal said:

namepeace said:

But come on, mjs, if MJ fans miss MJ deeply, how do we think Janet feels? Maybe she does blame the press scrutiny as a factor in what happened with MJ.

I am not insisting that Janet doesn't miss her brother because I am quite sure she does but I believe there might be other things going on in her personal life that we don't know about. She literally never looks happy at all and then there are these touring scheduling issues. I just feel other things are might be going on.

That's fair.

mjscarousal said:

Janet literally never looks happy when she is off stage. She doesn't look happy when she is with Wissam or just in general when she is out and about. Nobody is reaching for anything and leave Michael out of this!

Only thing I will say about that is I do feel Wissam is VERY controlling. With his religious believes as a Muslim. She can't dress in any revealing wardrobe & must be covered from head to toe & must obey him.

But if you going to mention her being unhappy. I will every bit of mention the death of her worldwide famous brother in her defense. Plus her fathers failing health. Janet is the most talented one now left in her family. Having inherited her brothers gift at being a multi talented actress.singer,dancer. It puts a lot of pressure on her.

Also stop painting her as a miserable soul!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

mjscarousal said:

Janet literally never looks happy when she is off stage. She doesn't look happy when she is with Wissam or just in general when she is out and about. Nobody is reaching for anything and leave Michael out of this!

Only thing I will say about that is I do feel Wissam is VERY controlling. With his religious believes as a Muslim. She can't dress in any revealing wardrobe & must be covered from head to toe & must obey him.

But if you going to mention her being unhappy. I will every bit of mention the death of her worldwide famous brother in her defense. Plus her fathers failing health. Janet is the most talented one now left in her family. Having inherited her brothers gift at being a multi talented actress.singer,dancer. It puts a lot of pressure on her.

Also stop painting her as a miserable soul!

-

Are you her PR person?

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

mjscarousal said:

Janet literally never looks happy when she is off stage. She doesn't look happy when she is with Wissam or just in general when she is out and about. Nobody is reaching for anything and leave Michael out of this!

Only thing I will say about that is I do feel Wissam is VERY controlling. With his religious believes as a Muslim. She can't dress in any revealing wardrobe & must be covered from head to toe & must obey him.

But if you going to mention her being unhappy. I will every bit of mention the death of her worldwide famous brother in her defense. Plus her fathers failing health. Janet is the most talented one now left in her family. Having inherited her brothers gift at being a multi talented actress.singer,dancer. It puts a lot of pressure on her.

Also stop painting her as a miserable soul!

KCool I gotta admit, you got your troll game down on LOCK

Musicslave said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Only thing I will say about that is I do feel Wissam is VERY controlling. With his religious believes as a Muslim. She can't dress in any revealing wardrobe & must be covered from head to toe & must obey him.

But if you going to mention her being unhappy. I will every bit of mention the death of her worldwide famous brother in her defense. Plus her fathers failing health. Janet is the most talented one now left in her family. Having inherited her brothers gift at being a multi talented actress.singer,dancer. It puts a lot of pressure on her.

Also stop painting her as a miserable soul!

-

Are you her PR person?

KCOOLMUZIQ said: