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Reply #30 posted 03/09/16 12:40pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

nextedition said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Katherine has had health issues to the point where the Jackson family tried to take over conservatorship of MJ's kids from her. Which is why Taj Jackson Janet's brother Tito's son was eventually appointed co-legal guardian of his cousins Paris,Blanket & PRINCE. Who currently resides in Katherine's residence .

Don't hate because I have compassion for Janet's well being.

Again, you are telling things you assume.

You don't know it by fact.

If the conservatorship really happened it was a few years ago.

You just don't know if this cancellation has anything to do with family issues.

She just posted a few days ago on facebook she was excited about dubai.

The hate things is pretty lame by the way, just because i respond to your post doesn't mean i hate. Grow up.

rolleyes

It was ALL over the news. I would NEVER make up anything or write lies about Janet or her family. I'm through with this discussion with you.

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Reply #31 posted 03/09/16 12:45pm

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alphastreet said:

What do u mean her videos are not on YouTube???!!! This is news to me. I'm irritated she's not pushing to get her albums re certified, and I know she's humble about everything and downplays her achievements, but I'm beginning to wonder if she really knows she's that good or not. She always downplayed her success, talent, status, achievements, etc. Over the years and her having the Janet museum at the shows and design me contest were the very few times she gave herself credit. I know she was raised to not be vain about these things but wonder if it's a self esteem issue and if some other things are contributing to sudden cancellations [Edited 3/8/16 23:25pm]


All of Janet's videos are currently on YouTube as far as I can tell.


Last time I was in the mood to watch all of her videos (last month), I couldn't find Alright on there at all cry

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Reply #32 posted 03/09/16 2:34pm

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I don't know. This is something i've been wondering myself. It's so frustrating being a fan of hers. She's basically been reduced to a one hit wonder that happened to be related to MJ, and is doing nothing to fix it. When your most viewed music video doesn't even have your name on it, there's a big problem. At least with Prince he is the one activley making the decision to not engage in streaming, youtube etc. It's a career choice and I can accept that. Janet, on the other hand does have a vevo account, she DOES have her music on spotify. There has just been ZERO promotion. Another thing is that, it's possible some of her videos are blocked in countries outside of the US (not sure about this) and that keeps streaming down aswell. Also issues with her old label may be the reason why she has two seperate, verified pages which hurts cohesion massivley (case in point: madonna).

The 30th anniversery of control was SUCH a missed oppertunity. She could have, at the very least bought an itunes banner for the album to try and increase catalog sales. Instead it flew completely under the radar to the GP.

The whole unbreakable era was a complete mistake in my opinion. Despite being a good album. That's not enough. All it has sereved to do is ruin what little credibility she had left. If she had no interest in rededicating herself to the industry fully she shouldn't have even bothered. Maybe she feels like she's above promoting herself at this point? Look at Mariah's "Emancipation of Mimi" era for example. A big part of the reason that come back happened is because Mariah, despite being an icon, was NOT afraid to promote herself. She was on every talkshow. Or maybe she thought twitter followers would translate to sales and was discuraged to find that wasn't the case?

All I know is, all of Janet's naysayers are coming out on top. What a way to end your career. SMH.

Excellent post this pretty much sums of my opinions on the matter.

The start of the Unbreakable tour was actually really great. She had a number one hit album, sold out tour, number one song on adult charts without any promotion. IMO, she was proving her naysayers wrong and I thought she was moving her career in a good direction BUT canceling the entire Europe leg is a HUGE let down and not good. Its not fair to fans specifically. Also, she could give more shine to her classics, iconic music videos, performances, (in other words, significant things that has given her, her icon and legend status). Why not? She doesn't have to do an interview to show a small behind the scenes footage of the making of Control or Velvet Rope. I understand the Superbowl fiasco etc hurt her career BUT IMO she is also adding to that herself.

She is her own worst enemy. The superbowl can't be blamed at this point. It's her. The public knows Janet was done wrong. It's not like she's still being bashed for it. There are calls for apologies on her behalf YEARLY. She has gone to award shows (AMA's, VMA's, BET) AND been tributed since then. She's not being paid complete dust by the industry like most people think. She just fails to cease the moment.

The BET awards were another missed oppertunity. Instead of a thrown together dance tribute to her old classics. SHE should've got up there and preformed. A medley of not only her classics but with some new songs mixed in. Proving that yes, she's still got it and going to see her in tour is worth the money. Instead it was just in and out.

There's just so much wrong with how her career is being handled in today's market that I could rant on and on. sad

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Reply #33 posted 03/09/16 2:59pm

mjscarousal

zebz said:

mjscarousal said:

Excellent post this pretty much sums of my opinions on the matter.

The start of the Unbreakable tour was actually really great. She had a number one hit album, sold out tour, number one song on adult charts without any promotion. IMO, she was proving her naysayers wrong and I thought she was moving her career in a good direction BUT canceling the entire Europe leg is a HUGE let down and not good. Its not fair to fans specifically. Also, she could give more shine to her classics, iconic music videos, performances, (in other words, significant things that has given her, her icon and legend status). Why not? She doesn't have to do an interview to show a small behind the scenes footage of the making of Control or Velvet Rope. I understand the Superbowl fiasco etc hurt her career BUT IMO she is also adding to that herself.

She is her own worst enemy. The superbowl can't be blamed at this point. It's her. The public knows Janet was done wrong. It's not like she's still being bashed for it. There are calls for apologies on her behalf YEARLY. She has gone to award shows (AMA's, VMA's, BET) AND been tributed since then. She's not being paid complete dust by the industry like most people think. She just fails to cease the moment.

The BET awards were another missed oppertunity. Instead of a thrown together dance tribute to her old classics. SHE should've got up there and preformed. A medley of not only her classics but with some new songs mixed in. Proving that yes, she's still got it and going to see her in tour is worth the money. Instead it was just in and out.

There's just so much wrong with how her career is being handled in today's market that I could rant on and on. sad

Agree with everything

Great points and you have actually given me some points to think about more. You are right that she gets some recognition by the industry although imo she deserves a lot more. I definitly agree she should have performed at the BET awards last year and ceased the opportunity to promote herself and prove to people "yea I am Ms. Jackson if ya nasty and I still got it!" LOL I thought the mini tribute was pointless. She has already been tributed, we know she has influenced this generation, etc. She needs to SHOWCASE it herself. She definitly needs a new manager and team for sure. I don't know what is going on with J these days. She just doesn't seem to care about her career at all.

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Reply #34 posted 03/09/16 3:26pm

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sexton said:


All of Janet's videos are currently on YouTube as far as I can tell.


Last time I was in the mood to watch all of her videos (last month), I couldn't find Alright on there at all cry


Between YouTube and Vevo, I'm sure all her videos can be seen online.

I have Alright on DVD so I don't have your problem. hah!

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Reply #35 posted 03/09/16 4:03pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

mjscarousal said:

zebz said:

She is her own worst enemy. The superbowl can't be blamed at this point. It's her. The public knows Janet was done wrong. It's not like she's still being bashed for it. There are calls for apologies on her behalf YEARLY. She has gone to award shows (AMA's, VMA's, BET) AND been tributed since then. She's not being paid complete dust by the industry like most people think. She just fails to cease the moment.

The BET awards were another missed oppertunity. Instead of a thrown together dance tribute to her old classics. SHE should've got up there and preformed. A medley of not only her classics but with some new songs mixed in. Proving that yes, she's still got it and going to see her in tour is worth the money. Instead it was just in and out.

There's just so much wrong with how her career is being handled in today's market that I could rant on and on. sad

Agree with everything

Great points and you have actually given me some points to think about more. You are right that she gets some recognition by the industry although imo she deserves a lot more. I definitly agree she should have performed at the BET awards last year and ceased the opportunity to promote herself and prove to people "yea I am Ms. Jackson if ya nasty and I still got it!" LOL I thought the mini tribute was pointless. She has already been tributed, we know she has influenced this generation, etc. She needs to SHOWCASE it herself. She definitly needs a new manager and team for sure. I don't know what is going on with J these days. She just doesn't seem to care about her career at all.

All LIES!!! Janet's appearance alone @ an Award Show strikes a standing ovation without even uttering a word. Just like prince does...

Speaking of prince. Janet should do HitnRun style shows like him....

[Edited 3/9/16 16:13pm]

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #36 posted 03/09/16 5:18pm

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thekidsgirl said:




sexton said:




All of Janet's videos are currently on YouTube as far as I can tell.




Last time I was in the mood to watch all of her videos (last month), I couldn't find Alright on there at all cry




Between YouTube and Vevo, I'm sure all her videos can be seen online.

I have Alright on DVD so I don't have your problem. hah!




Thanks, I always forget Vevo exists and for you, fishslap .
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Reply #37 posted 03/09/16 5:40pm

mjscarousal

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

mjscarousal said:

Agree with everything

Great points and you have actually given me some points to think about more. You are right that she gets some recognition by the industry although imo she deserves a lot more. I definitly agree she should have performed at the BET awards last year and ceased the opportunity to promote herself and prove to people "yea I am Ms. Jackson if ya nasty and I still got it!" LOL I thought the mini tribute was pointless. She has already been tributed, we know she has influenced this generation, etc. She needs to SHOWCASE it herself. She definitly needs a new manager and team for sure. I don't know what is going on with J these days. She just doesn't seem to care about her career at all.

All LIES!!! Janet's appearance alone @ an Award Show strikes a standing ovation without even uttering a word. Just like prince does...

Speaking of prince. Janet should do HitnRun style shows like him....

[Edited 3/9/16 16:13pm]

Do you ever get tired of trolling? hmmm

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Reply #38 posted 03/09/16 5:53pm

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didnt father joe bang janet AND latoya?

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Reply #39 posted 03/09/16 5:59pm

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I thought I was the only one that noticed the trolling.

She could never do a hit and run show too much production involved.
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Reply #40 posted 03/09/16 6:05pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

mjscarousal said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

All LIES!!! Janet's appearance alone @ an Award Show strikes a standing ovation without even uttering a word. Just like prince does...

Speaking of prince. Janet should do HitnRun style shows like him....

[Edited 3/9/16 16:13pm]

Do you ever get tired of trolling? hmmm

I don't know why peeps here keep thinking I'm trolling...Im very passionate about what I believe in.

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #41 posted 03/09/16 6:06pm

mjscarousal

getxxxx said:

I thought I was the only one that noticed the trolling. She could never do a hit and run show too much production involved.

Oh yea he does it for attention which is why I just ignore it. Janet could do a big production show. She did them all throughout the 90's. I don't think Janets heart is into showbusiness and performing anymore and I think this will be her last album and tour.

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Reply #42 posted 03/09/16 7:29pm

mjscarousal

Can somebody embed this the right way for me? please

In this video Janet says she is not a fighter, wow eek I knew I was right. I feel so sorry for her.

[Edited 3/9/16 19:40pm]

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Reply #43 posted 03/09/16 7:37pm

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Can somebody embed this the right way for me? please

In this video Janet says she is not a fighter, wow eek I knew I was right. I feel so sorry for her.

Here you go...

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Reply #44 posted 03/09/16 7:41pm

mjscarousal

^ Thanks!!!

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Reply #45 posted 03/09/16 8:06pm

Scorp

this pop ascension was not only the greatest illusionary tactic ever devised in the history of music

but the most desctrutive force because it has produced a wave of entitlment the likes never seen

the recording industry died by the early 90s

the music industry is toast

the entertainment industry is done

the human toll never ever gets considered out of all of this

the entertainment value always takes precedence...it always does

Janet Jackson should move on and live out the rest of her life because ain't nothing staring in front of her but hate

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Reply #46 posted 03/10/16 5:37pm

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eek

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #47 posted 03/10/16 6:26pm

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eek

Lol. whats that look for?

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Reply #48 posted 03/11/16 11:28am

KCOOLMUZIQ

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Janet arriving in LAX yesterday morning...

eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #49 posted 03/11/16 11:58am

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

nextedition said:

of course you do, you said "Katherine is not in the best of health herself. So I can understand Janet wanting to be close."

You don't know anything if Katherine's has health issues, if there are any. Just because she is old doesn't mean there are health issues.

Katherine has had health issues to the point where the Jackson family tried to take over conservatorship of MJ's kids from her. Which is why Taj Jackson Janet's brother Tito's son was eventually appointed co-legal guardian of his cousins Paris,Blanket & PRINCE. Who currently resides in Katherine's residence .

Don't hate because I have compassion for Janet's well being.

TJ is the co-guardian of Prince, Paris and Blanket. Not Taj.


Taj is Tito's oldest son. TJ is the youngest son.

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Reply #50 posted 03/11/16 12:55pm

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #51 posted 03/11/16 1:23pm

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Janet...is a female...females are generally less concerned about notions like 'legacies'... if one knows anything about women, their psychologies and collective (as well as individual) patterns of behaviour.

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Reply #52 posted 03/11/16 1:54pm

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Janet...is a female...females are generally less concerned about notions like 'legacies'... if one knows anything about women, their psychologies and collective (as well as individual) patterns of behaviour.

So not true. Some "females" do and some don't. confused

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #53 posted 03/11/16 6:34pm

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #54 posted 03/12/16 3:01am

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^ Janet doesn't have good management. Alot of these tweets are inappropiate. She just canceled all those Europe dates and she got pissed reactions from her European stans so why would she tweet this a few days after? eek Those disgruntle fans that had to book hotels and took off from work wont be able to see her in concert so it might have been to soon to talk about performing in Dubai especially when she still has not explained why she canceled those other shows. disbelief I don't know if its just Janet not caring or her being oblivious to this "digital era" but her management has got to go, ASAP.

I'm really concerned about Janet. She doesn't seem happy. She hardly ever smiles in photos nowadays even before the Unbreakable era. I think there might be some other personal things going on. I don't know if it is lack of confidence or what but her silence is very unsettling. If she doesn't care about touring, maybe she should just cancel the rest of the shows all together. Its not fair to to fans to just cancel like that.

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Reply #55 posted 03/12/16 5:15pm

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mjscarousal said:

^ Janet doesn't have good management. Alot of these tweets are inappropiate. She just canceled all those Europe dates and she got pissed reactions from her European stans so why would she tweet this a few days after? eek Those disgruntle fans that had to book hotels and took off from work wont be able to see her in concert so it might have been to soon to talk about performing in Dubai especially when she still has not explained why she canceled those other shows. disbelief I don't know if its just Janet not caring or her being oblivious to this "digital era" but her management has got to go, ASAP.

I'm really concerned about Janet. She doesn't seem happy. She hardly ever smiles in photos nowadays even before the Unbreakable era. I think there might be some other personal things going on. I don't know if it is lack of confidence or what but her silence is very unsettling. If she doesn't care about touring, maybe she should just cancel the rest of the shows all together. Its not fair to to fans to just cancel like that.

Seriously. She has one of the worst PR teams i've ever seen. Who was managing her in the 90s? Because...

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Reply #56 posted 03/12/16 5:54pm

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zebz said:

mjscarousal said:

^ Janet doesn't have good management. Alot of these tweets are inappropiate. She just canceled all those Europe dates and she got pissed reactions from her European stans so why would she tweet this a few days after? eek Those disgruntle fans that had to book hotels and took off from work wont be able to see her in concert so it might have been to soon to talk about performing in Dubai especially when she still has not explained why she canceled those other shows. disbelief I don't know if its just Janet not caring or her being oblivious to this "digital era" but her management has got to go, ASAP.

I'm really concerned about Janet. She doesn't seem happy. She hardly ever smiles in photos nowadays even before the Unbreakable era. I think there might be some other personal things going on. I don't know if it is lack of confidence or what but her silence is very unsettling. If she doesn't care about touring, maybe she should just cancel the rest of the shows all together. Its not fair to to fans to just cancel like that.

Seriously. She has one of the worst PR teams i've ever seen. Who was managing her in the 90s? Because...

Someone who knew what he was doing: Roger Davies... Manager of Tina Turner, Cher, Sade....

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Reply #57 posted 03/12/16 6:21pm

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zebz said:

Seriously. She has one of the worst PR teams i've ever seen. Who was managing her in the 90s? Because...

Someone who knew what he was doing: Roger Davies... Manager of Tina Turner, Cher, Sade....

Who the hell does she have now? They seem to be really behind the times on how to market via social media. I would say they need to be fired but it's too late now. The damage is done.

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Reply #58 posted 03/12/16 6:34pm

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^^Sterling Winters Company along with JDJ Entertainment (which is her own) company, although it is said that Kathy Ireland also is somehow involved.

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Reply #59 posted 03/12/16 6:47pm

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^^Sterling Winters Company along with JDJ Entertainment (which is her own) company, although it is said that Kathy Ireland also is somehow involved.

Well she's clearly not a priority. The european leg isn't the only promotional performance she was supposed to be doing but canceled this era.

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