IstenSzek said:

Identity said:

Sure. What's the meaning behind the album title? Who's this Pablo character? Pablo Picacco, Pablo Escobar?

he posted something on twitter about it being the apostle Paul? i read it a few times

but it just didn't make a lot of sense

He did refer to it as a gospel album (lmao), so the apostle would make sense

IstenSzek said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Honestly i loved kanyes ''dark trology' 808's-Yeezus.

The album is a mess and all over the place (which is the point i'm guessing)

Feedback is a pretty dope song. Waves is actually... kind of beautiful. I hate Chris Brown more than i hate taking a shit when i'm constipated. But the chorus on Waves is pretty and atmospheric. The final track Fade remains me of King Kunta from Kendrick. A solid funk number and a great album closer. Wolves sounds so much better with Sia on the chorus. Knye doing the chorus just sounds messy and weak.

No More Parties is of course great... Facts is still shit. The freestyles are meh and not really needed honestly. Although the I Love Kanye one is the most kanye thing..... ever

overall a messy album and i'm mixed so far. I can see why people would hate it though

he might release a few more good tracks for GOOD fridays in the coming weeks/months,

so you could always tweek the tracklist a bit. although that's besides the point, i know

Yeah, I ended up rearranging most of the tracks to emulate the second Waves tracklist. It sounds a little less scatterbrained now.

Kanye is so gifted & misunderstood. He should go on a retreat & clear his head. The constant being picked on has to be getting to him..

I'm a fan - even liked Yeezus. But not really 808s, which this defintiely feels most like. I can't stand this autotune thing, so ready for it to go away. Drake, Future, Young Thug, Cher - you can all stop it now.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Kanye is so gifted & misunderstood. He should go on a retreat & clear his head. The constant being picked on has to be getting to him..

Are you for real? WTF??

At this point, Kanye West is less influential than Kendrick Lamar, his current peer. He needs to shut up about Walt Disney, Picasso, etc.

Empress said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Kanye is so gifted & misunderstood. He should go on a retreat & clear his head. The constant being picked on has to be getting to him..

Are you for real? WTF??

Kanye addresses everything everyone says about him on his new jawn...That secretly released audio of him is horrible that someone close in his camp would put that out. He had every right to be upset after SNl tearing down his rehearsed stage set up just before he was set to perform. What isn't mentioned is that it was worked out & Kanye stayed after his performance and had a cordial talk with the staff & crew. It's so obvious the press is deliberately doing this to ruin his image. They did the same to Mj & Bill Cosby.

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MendesCity said:

I can't stand this autotune thing, so ready for it to go away.

That's all I could think when watching him on SNL.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Empress said:

Are you for real? WTF??

Kanye addresses everything everyone says about him on his new jawn...That secretly released audio of him is horrible that someone close in his camp would put that out. He had every right to be upset after SNl tearing down his rehearsed stage set up just before he was set to perform. What isn't mentioned is that it was worked out & Kanye stayed after his performance and had a cordial talk with the staff & crew. It's so obvious the press is deliberately doing this to ruin his image. They did the same to Mj & Bill Cosby.

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Oh please? Some people are so naive. Kanye can go fuck himself! His ego has ruined him. He has proven that he's lame and can't take any criticism. I and millions of others hope he sails off into the sunset for good and takes his slut wife with him.

Azz said:

SoulAlive said:

Kanye West is a tabloid celebrity now.It's no longer about the music anymore.He has turned himself into a media punching bag.This new album will be in the news for about a week,then the attention will return back to his Twitter feuds and his Hollywood marriage.

It's about the music if you want/choose it to be. This album will ultimately be one of the best of this year... Yet you choose to focus on his media personality... Your choice. You can stay hating, whilst the rest of us are enjoying some GREAT music... Music that I will continue to enjoy for weeks, months, years to come

LOL...I just saw a news item on yahoo about some newly leaked backstage audio recording from his SNL appearance where he is talking shit about Taylor Swift and getting pissed about his stage.THIS is what I was talking about.He goes around acting like a lunatic and his behavior gets all the attention,not his music.This new album will be forgotten soon,but we'll be hearing about his crazy antics all year long.

SoulAlive said:

Azz said:

SoulAlive said: It's about the music if you want/choose it to be. This album will ultimately be one of the best of this year... Yet you choose to focus on his media personality... Your choice. You can stay hating, whilst the rest of us are enjoying some GREAT music... Music that I will continue to enjoy for weeks, months, years to come

LOL...I just saw a news item on yahoo about some newly leaked backstage audio recording from his SNL appearance where he is talking shit about Taylor Swift and getting pissed about his stage.THIS is what I was talking about.He goes around acting like a lunatic and his behavior gets all the attention,not his music.This new album will be forgotten soon,but we'll be hearing about his crazy antics all year long.

each day i wake up to read another blurb about a new twitter spat of his,
instead of something about his new album. why does he not just shut up
at least for a week or 2 so his music can do the talking? he's got serious
diarrhea of the mouth.

IstenSzek said:

SoulAlive said:

LOL...I just saw a news item on yahoo about some newly leaked backstage audio recording from his SNL appearance where he is talking shit about Taylor Swift and getting pissed about his stage.THIS is what I was talking about.He goes around acting like a lunatic and his behavior gets all the attention,not his music.This new album will be forgotten soon,but we'll be hearing about his crazy antics all year long.

each day i wake up to read another blurb about a new twitter spat of his,
instead of something about his new album. why does he not just shut up
at least for a week or 2 so his music can do the talking? he's got serious
diarrhea of the mouth.

Exactly!! It's like he doesn't even want to be an "artist" anymore.He wants to be a shit-stirring media whore.His latest stunt? Going around saying that he's in debt and asking the Facebook creator to give him some money THIS is all I've been hearing about this week.No one is even talking about the new album.

SoulAlive said:

IstenSzek said:

each day i wake up to read another blurb about a new twitter spat of his,
instead of something about his new album. why does he not just shut up
at least for a week or 2 so his music can do the talking? he's got serious
diarrhea of the mouth.

Exactly!! It's like he doesn't even want to be an "artist" anymore.He wants to be a shit-stirring media whore.His latest stunt? Going around saying that he's in debt and asking the Facebook creator to give him some money THIS is all I've been hearing about this week.No one is even talking about the new album.

it's probably all for publicity? but publicity for what? it's like a post millennial kafkaesque hell.
it's just media frenzy and self-sabotaging, self-whoring. i know celebs are making it up as they go
along in this new environment of social media 2.0 but these two are pushing at the boundaries so
goddamn hard that pretty soon they'll push through the ever thinning membrane and find they've
whored, emberassed and over publicised themselves 360 degrees right back to the other side of so
called fame. maybe then they'll make a sextape of themselves and buy national airtime to broadcast it? i don't know who i dislike more right now. although i'm pretty sure it's her. at least he made a lot
of cool music.

SoulAlive said:

Azz said:

SoulAlive said: It's about the music if you want/choose it to be. This album will ultimately be one of the best of this year... Yet you choose to focus on his media personality... Your choice. You can stay hating, whilst the rest of us are enjoying some GREAT music... Music that I will continue to enjoy for weeks, months, years to come

LOL...I just saw a news item on yahoo about some newly leaked backstage audio recording from his SNL appearance where he is talking shit about Taylor Swift and getting pissed about his stage.THIS is what I was talking about.He goes around acting like a lunatic and his behavior gets all the attention,not his music.This new album will be forgotten soon,but we'll be hearing about his crazy antics all year long.

The guy does sound like he has issues. Ranting that you're 50 percent more influential than any other human being, dead or alive, is not a sign of a healthy ego!
http://pagesix.com/2016/0...-meltdown/

I don't necessarily think he doesn't want to be an artist and is just out for media attention. What he seems to want is acclaim - specifically, acclaim as an artist, in whatever medium he's decided to breeze into. And he seems to go running his mouth off every time the world fails to give him the extraordinary level of acclaim he feels he deserves (being more influential than Kubrick and the Apostle Paul, apparently!), and then those outbursts generate the kind of controversial story the clickbait media likes.

There's a bit of me feels a bit sorry for Kanye, because he doesn't seem like a very happy man, despite his wealth and talent. Even when you see him smiling, it seems to be a sort of "I'll-get-you-bastards", gritted teeth sort of a smile. And it's not surprising, since setting yourself up at that level of self-perceived greatness is bound to leave you disappointed. (I mean, surely even your greatest devotee would find it hard to confirm to you that, yes, your latest single or fashionable sweater is more influential than the Pauline Epistles!)

well said deebee

deebee said:

SoulAlive said:

LOL...I just saw a news item on yahoo about some newly leaked backstage audio recording from his SNL appearance where he is talking shit about Taylor Swift and getting pissed about his stage.THIS is what I was talking about.He goes around acting like a lunatic and his behavior gets all the attention,not his music.This new album will be forgotten soon,but we'll be hearing about his crazy antics all year long.

The guy does sound like he has issues. Ranting that you're 50 percent more influential than any other human being, dead or alive, is not a sign of a healthy ego!
http://pagesix.com/2016/0...-meltdown/

I don't necessarily think he doesn't want to be an artist and is just out for media attention. What he seems to want is acclaim - specifically, acclaim as an artist, in whatever medium he's decided to breeze into. And he seems to go running his mouth off every time the world fails to give him the extraordinary level of acclaim he feels he deserves (being more influential than Kubrick and the Apostle Paul, apparently!), and then those outbursts generate the kind of controversial story the clickbait media likes.

There's a bit of me feels a bit sorry for Kanye, because he doesn't seem like a very happy man, despite his wealth and talent. Even when you see him smiling, it seems to be a sort of "I'll-get-you-bastards", gritted teeth sort of a smile. And it's not surprising, since setting yourself up at that level of self-perceived greatness is bound to leave you disappointed. (I mean, surely even your greatest devotee would find it hard to confirm to you that, yes, your latest single or fashionable sweater is more influential than the Pauline Epistles!)

Oh he has some major issues! For all intents and purposes-- to me anyway-- Kanye makes Prince seem "humble". Contemplate on that, if you must.

Kanye has a mental illness. I use to think that he was just a narcistic attention whore....but his problem appears to be much serious than that. He was also ranting on social media about Amber Rose and picked a fight with Wiz on social media (for no reason ). He has a mental illness and he needs help. As a ANNOYING as he might be, I don't think people should be laughing at him. I actually feel really sorry for him and I dont think his marriage with Kim K will last.

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mjscarousal said:

Kanye has as mental illness. I use to think that he was just a narcistic attention whore....but his problem appears to be much serious than that. He was also ranting on social media about Amber Rose and picked a fight with Wiz on social media (for no reason ). He has a mental illness and he needs help. As a ANNOYING as he might be, I don't think people should be laughing at him. I actually feel really sorry for him and I dont think his married with Kim K will last.

I'm starting to believe the same thing i think Kanye is legit bipolar.

Gunsnhalen said:

mjscarousal said:

Kanye has as mental illness. I use to think that he was just a narcistic attention whore....but his problem appears to be much serious than that. He was also ranting on social media about Amber Rose and picked a fight with Wiz on social media (for no reason ). He has a mental illness and he needs help. As a ANNOYING as he might be, I don't think people should be laughing at him. I actually feel really sorry for him and I dont think his married with Kim K will last.

I'm starting to believe the same thing i think Kanye is legit bipolar.

Yea it is sad Kanye use to be a really great artist, all that talent such a waste . Its sad what he has become. I just hope he gets help before its too late. He doesn't seem to have good handlers around him and having Kim K as a wife doesn't help.

So... Are people actually going to talk about the album, or...?

www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/kanye-west-the-life-of-pablo-20160216

here's the RS review for those who care. 4.5 is no smalll task. I just might fuck with it/him

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how do u make ish, hyperlink on here?!

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CynicKill said:

I still say for poetic beauty you can't beat Frank Ocean!

Why is Frank Ocean even on this conversations radar?

Frank is an amazing artist but what does that have to do with Kanye?

Frank and Kanye are so different, I dont know why you would lump them together & feel you have to choose one?

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Kanye needs to show more of the real him. Maybe an interview with Oprah or Barbera Walters will reveal the real cool dude i seen and know.Because the media is ruining his image and legacy..

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Kanye needs to show more of the real him. Maybe an interview with Oprah or Barbera Walters will reveal the real cool dude i seen and know.Because the media is ruining his image and legacy..

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You can't be serious. How about his antics are ruining whatever image he has left and the media as always, is glad to report about it. Howabout, don't do dumb shi*. Let's try that.

Justin Bieber & Miley Cyrus has done FAR WORSE! Still the media worships the ground they walk on. It's always a double standard and I'm sick of it!

wife has publicly stated she thinks hes going nuts

I had the displeaure of being forced to listen to this album the other night at work. Coworker is a big Kanye fan. Him slamming my head into the table and pouring mercury into my ear would have been preferrable.

Musicslave said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Kanye needs to show more of the real him. Maybe an interview with Oprah or Barbera Walters will reveal the real cool dude i seen and know.Because the media is ruining his image and legacy..

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You can't be serious. How about his antics are ruining whatever image he has left and the media as always, is glad to report about it. Howabout, don't do dumb shi*. Let's try that.

Unfortunately this person is serious and delusional too. They are so hung up on black celebrities that they can't see anything clearly. Kanye is jealous of others and I believe he has very low self esteem. It may appear the opposite to some, but his behavior screams low self esteem. KCool blames it all on white media get a life!