Cinny said:

SoulAlive said:

I couldn't even get through the entire song...it sounds like a noisy mess to me.

I find it so disposible, it's not even worth listening to the second half, let alone a second time. It's empty!

Update! The arrangement on the Superbowl was actually listenable and reminded me more of "Partition" which I actually enjoy.

Cinny said:

I frankly don't give a rip where she's from, her parents, her husband, her child. There is nothing there except the kind of fan facts you'd find in a teen zine.

Update! While the song is still all about Beyonce, I realize that she is using her *own* image as a black woman in a powerful way and symbolic statements regarding Blu Ivy's afro and Jay-Z's Jackson 5 nostrils are actually statements of pride.

deebee said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

The spinning of trying to make it into some type of social commentary in the realm of "What's Going On" by Marvin Gaye is fucking laughable.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/07/arts/music/beyonce-formation-super-bowl-video.html?ref=arts&smid=tw-nytimesarts&smtyp=cur&_r=0


But they are seriously trying it.

The Times' ideological soulmate this side of the Pond had fierce commentary about her "politically engaged twerking." I had no idea that was even a thing, and I've been all morning scanning the Local Pages, seeing if there's a class I can sign up for.

http://www.theguardian.co...how-review

I swear on everything I hold dear, if Hillary goes down to South Carolina and starts twerking for votes, I am leaving the country.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

deebee said:

The Times' ideological soulmate this side of the Pond had fierce commentary about her "politically engaged twerking." I had no idea that was even a thing, and I've been all morning scanning the Local Pages, seeing if there's a class I can sign up for.

http://www.theguardian.co...how-review

I swear on everything I hold dear, if Hillary goes down to South Carolina and starts twerking for votes, I am leaving the country.

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Image firmly cemented in brain.

Thanks alot!

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

deebee said:

The Times' ideological soulmate this side of the Pond had fierce commentary about her "politically engaged twerking." I had no idea that was even a thing, and I've been all morning scanning the Local Pages, seeing if there's a class I can sign up for.

http://www.theguardian.co...how-review

I swear on everything I hold dear, if Hillary goes down to South Carolina and starts twerking for votes, I am leaving the country.

But how would you feel about Bernie doing it....?

deebee said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I swear on everything I hold dear, if Hillary goes down to South Carolina and starts twerking for votes, I am leaving the country.

But how would you feel about Bernie doing it....?

Thankfully, he wouldn't but I'd resent it more so if he did because then I would have to question his sanity and mental stability. If she did it, there'd be no question from me that it was just shameless, desperate, pandering. In other words, her campaign as usual.

CynicKill said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I swear on everything I hold dear, if Hillary goes down to South Carolina and starts twerking for votes, I am leaving the country.

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Image firmly cemented in brain.

Thanks alot!

My bad.

CynicKill said:

nammie said:

She seems like she's now a shit-hop/pop artist at this point, (thanks Vain Andy). It will be interesting to see how mainstream folks feel about the lyrics of her new single tomorrow -- it could backfire 'cause it could come across as a bit too pro black. The "Stop shooting us" moment could be considered her answer to the black lives matter movement.. I guess lol, who knows lol. Or maybe her making a thinly veiled attempt at making a statement or expressing an opinion on the issue. I know I'm reaching here lol. Regardless, this was just a long winded advertisement to announce her next tour. Her daughter looks just like her dad...

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Her daughter looks like her when she was that age.

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omg such a cutie pie!!!

I havent been much of a fan of Beyonce really - I prefer her sister Solange who admittedly hasnt had to tread the line of commercialism as much as Beyonce has. Solange has a gift with visuals and I see Solange all over the video - its breathtakingly well done, in the symbolism as well as the cinematography and the editing. This song, and the video is SMART, I dont care what anyone says...it's meanings are deftly layered - its really just freaking brilliant.

Someone let the tiger out, its about time she said something, anything... socially relevant.

It's groundbreaking imo, for a black woman to get up in the center of the viewing universe and tell everyone whose looking how black she is, and how much she loves it.

She made powerful and iconic statement that 'I just might be a black Bill Gates in the making'.

She had me on my feet cheering because this isnt just important for all women - its incredibly important for women of color - for her to say WATCH ME AS A BLACK WOMAN BECOME A BLACK BILL GATES...

WELL ITS ABOUT TIME - I can finally believe shes' a feminist - this took Madonna levels of balls, and she zoomed to the top of the baddest bitch on the planet list imo.

She made me a fan

terrig said:

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paisleypark4 said:

terrig said:

I havent been much of a fan of Beyonce really - I prefer her sister Solange who admittedly hasnt had to tread the line of commercialism as much as Beyonce has. Solange has a gift with visuals and I see Solange all over the video - its breathtakingly well done, in the symbolism as well as the cinematography and the editing. This song, and the video is SMART, I dont care what anyone says...it's meanings are deftly layered - its really just freaking brilliant.

Someone let the tiger out, its about time she said something, anything... socially relevant.

It's groundbreaking imo, for a black woman to get up in the center of the viewing universe and tell everyone whose looking how black she is, and how much she loves it.

She made powerful and iconic statement that 'I just might be a black Bill Gates in the making'.

She had me on my feet cheering because this isnt just important for all women - its incredibly important for women of color - for her to say WATCH ME AS A BLACK WOMAN BECOME A BLACK BILL GATES...

WELL ITS ABOUT TIME - I can finally believe shes' a feminist - this took Madonna levels of balls, and she zoomed to the top of the baddest bitch on the planet list imo.

She made me a fan

Serious read. Yess

some have said it is always cool to be black when you don't look it so much

The culture of New Orleans came from Africa--afro--centrism.

Okay, for real, I cannot believe the tour was announced YESTERDAY and presale is TOMORROW.

2freaky4church1 said:

The culture of New Orleans came from Africa--afro--centrism.

naw

Afrocentrism is something different

1. French
2. Creole -French people not born on French soil -culture that evolves

3. French/Spanish mix

4. French/African mix

5. the Cajuns

6. Catholicism -Catholicism/Vodoo

7. the culture Creole culture that evolved and those that live under it

mjscarousal said:

She talks about her fame, accolades, being the queen, fucking her husband, and haters? What does that have to do with Black History month? Showing boys with hoodies on does not make the song deep. Its a very stupid song and its not right how she is exploiting certain images in the video. The video has absolutely nothing to do with the song. Its all over the place.

yes people are caught up in the images she put in the video which has nothing to do with what she's saying in the song. also one of these dudes supposedly co-wrote this masterpiece along with im sure 6-8 other songwriters.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLa9YxV1Xps

I like Beyonce; she’s fun, has a sound I don’t hear often, and makes interesting music.

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A lot of Beyonce critics are close to myth-making in their disdain. She pays off the press (I guess, all of it?), which means good reviews don’t matter. Her fans are into it, but they’re weak willed, believing the paid-off press, or caught up in images (seriously?). If you hear her sing well, it doesn’t matter, because she had her vocal levels doctored, and had Kelly and Michelle’s buried. Her music sounds like noise, but she’s too commercial. That’s not real dancing. Skin whitening.

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None of it’s provable, but like all myths, it’s not about proof, it’s about confirming what you already think you know, and everyone else is naive for not seeing it.

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It’s cool, I guess, but why can’t you just say “She doesn’t do it for me?” I can say it about: Justin Timberlake, Joni Mitchell, Beastie Boys, even Whitney Houston…they just didn’t do it for me. I’m not going to bend over backward with shadowy theories on how they have no talent, and everyone else is wrong, and I’m right. Just look away. No big loss.

lastdecember said:

Beyonce doesn't make white music, so why compare her sales to Adele or Taylor Swift. She's one of only three black artists to have 3 triple platinum albums in the 2000s decade (the other two are Usher and Alicia Keys whose sales have fallen considerably since then).


In the US

Dangerously in Love 5 million

B'Day 3.4 million

IASF 3.2 million

Four 1.5 million (without a hit pop single)

Beyonce 2.3 million src

But did she even make the comment?

THAT's the question.

lastdecember said:

Her comment on ADELE is stupid, out of respect, oh god talk about being full of your own shit. One Adele album has sold more than 5 Beyonce albums, I mean is this woman serious? If people want to buy you they will and if they don't they don't, sorry but Beyonce buyers are not Adele buyers and vice versa. Adele has a wider appeal than Beyonce at this point, its just reality, not even close in sales.

Well Beyonce thinks she is Michael Jackson so its not that far fetch she would think she could compete with Adele.

It's really pissing me off that this bullshit song, video and Super Bowl performance are being hailed as "homage" to the Black Panthers. Absolutely nothing about any of it made me think of the WOMEN of the Black Panthers.

When I think of them, I think of

https://t.co/th52MUCMrk

Which begins airing on February 16th on PBS!

Yea it is sad, it shows how much we have fallen as a society. I waiting to see when the Black intellectuals will be bold enough to call her out. I am tired of her misrepresentation of black culture.

The smartest thing she did was not put this out at the same time as Adele because she would have just gotten her feelings hurt. Adele has more soul than Beyonce IMHO. I'm guessing she thinks she can beat Rihanna with whatever the fuck this ridiculous noise is.....umm, okay sweetie. She's talking about she loves her negro nose with Jackson 5 nostrils while swinging her blonde weave. This song is about as real as her hair and why anyone still takes her serious with this brainless horseshit 'music' she keeps putting out is beyond my understanding. Didn't this attention thirsty heffa just make a video with Coldplay pretending to be Indian? All tht money and she's still trying to be a hoodrat. Beyonce, you know you grew up in the suburbs hunny...stop it.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

BlackCat1985 said:

When I saw that Beyonce had released a new song and video the day before her SB performance. I said now that's how you make a statement! I don't care for the song but I liked the video. I loved seeing Blue lvy with her natural hair dressed like a little girl should be dressed. She is so cute to me. I liked the fact that she brought attention to the black lives matter movement. What I don't like however is people acting as if she is the first and only black female artist to discuss social issues in her music. Let's not forget Janet Jackson did this over 25 years ago with Rhythm Nation. Fully clothed mind you. Beyonce ain't crazy she knew Adele's album would sell extremely well, Rihanna did to. That's why neither of them wanted to release music around that time. I'm not a Rihanna fan but I felt bad for her. Not only was the release of her album a total disaster. But Beyonce came out and basically stole all of her shine. But then again we can't really blame Beyonce because its been known for weeks that Beyonce was going to be apart of the SB. Maybe Rihanna should have waited to release her album.

The album has been delayed multiple times since late 2014. Rihanna waiting even longer would have been worse IMO.

BlackCat1985 said:

When I saw that Beyonce had released a new song and video the day before her SB performance. I said now that's how you make a statement! I don't care for the song but I liked the video. I loved seeing Blue lvy with her natural hair dressed like a little girl should be dressed. She is so cute to me. I liked the fact that she brought attention to the black lives matter movement. What I don't like however is people acting as if she is the first and only black female artist to discuss social issues in her music. Let's not forget Janet Jackson did this over 25 years ago with Rhythm Nation. Fully clothed mind you. Beyonce ain't crazy she knew Adele's album would sell extremely well, Rihanna did to. That's why neither of them wanted to release music around that time. I'm not a Rihanna fan but I felt bad for her. Not only was the release of her album a total disaster. But Beyonce came out and basically stole all of her shine. But then again we can't really blame Beyonce because its been known for weeks that Beyonce was going to be apart of the SB. Maybe Rihanna should have waited to release her album.

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Didn't Rihanna's people just last week announce that she went plat already? I don't think Rihanna has been affected yet. It's too early to tell. Besides you're comparing an album release to a single release. You could compare "Work" to "Formation" for a better comparison though.

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Most labels and artist want the bragging rights of saying they have the No. 1 album/song in the country. As I stated earlier, Beyonce can claim to be the baddest bitch in the game, queen/king B and all but you see she didn't dare release anything until Adele's numbers became more reachable for her to reach No. 1. Respect has nothing to do with it, it was common sense. Don't have to be smart or brilliant for that one.

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Since you mention Jan, I'd have to say "Black Eagle" also does the movement justice for a modern day reference.