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Reply #60 posted 01/09/16 1:07am

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I remember Tears For Fears getting a lot of play on the R&B station in my area
especially Everybody Wants To Rule The World and Shout. There was a good deal of
switch a roo going on between pop and r&b stations then. I would hear pop music
being played on the R&B stations and vice versa. I remember hearing ConFunkShun
Don't Let Your Love Grow Cold on pop radio and it wasn't even a big r&b hit.
I also remember at my high school which was 90 percent black I would hear friends
singing Don't Turn Around. Da Komisar's in Town. I would ask WTF are you guys singing. Then I finally heard it on r&b radio and I started singing the shit too lol
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #61 posted 01/09/16 8:33am

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I just popped in just because Teena Marie~Vanilla Chocolate~Lady Tee was mentioned in topic thread
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Reply #62 posted 01/09/16 8:40am

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About a month ago, VH1 Soul showed the video for Strut by Sheen Easton. Here's some Soul Train clips


You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #63 posted 01/09/16 9:27am

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Linn4days said:

babynoz said:



That's the thing, I've never heard Adele say that she is. Other people keep trying to force that label on her.

Give me Teena Marie and Amy.

I never said that I've read, seen, or heard Adele claim to be a Soul Artist, or aspire to be soulful in singing style (like adlibs).

My "no offense to Adele" is because the women that I mention would do "Soul" adlibs, and "vocal gymnastics" that Adele would not do. Can she?

She does not seem to have that kind of mentality..or spirit and essence too.

I don't think that she has to. I would not want her to. She's doing fine, and it would ruin some of her most memoral works (if she made an attempt then).

People can sing along without being intimidated.. I think that is her attribute that is over-looked.



I agree.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #64 posted 01/09/16 10:18am

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There was Adam Ant on Motown 25


You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #65 posted 01/09/16 11:01am

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Also collabo songs

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #66 posted 01/09/16 11:26am

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Adele isn't a soul singer, her voice does have some element of soul inflection to it but she's not in the same league as Teena (who was influenced by the late great Linda Jones of Hypnotized fame) and Amy among others.Lisa Stansfield is an underrated soul voiuce she even sang a few times with Barry White. Joss Stone hooked up with Raphael Saadiq on one of her albums and like Lisa she's another underrated singer. Fair do's to Adele she's getting paid, but personally I find her music rather boring and almost dirge like. Does she do any uptempo tracks as they all seem to follow the same trend of being about heartbreak, loss etc. If she was singing them with a more bluesy/soulful style ala Amy's Love is a Losing Game with the 60s soul style then her music might interest to me. But and its not a knock on her talent as she can sing, just the music she makes I find boring and on the whole its too depressing. same as Sam Smith his album is very melchanonic too and it's one which like Adele is more suited as like background noise in a dinner part setting.
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Reply #67 posted 01/09/16 12:43pm

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MickyDolenz said:

There was Adam Ant on Motown 25



Why was he there?
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Reply #68 posted 01/09/16 9:03pm

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How about Mariah Carey?


Lol...hehe
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Reply #69 posted 01/10/16 9:10am

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Timing and Maybe for the masses she's soulful but not too soulful
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Reply #70 posted 01/10/16 9:30am

mochalox

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Does Stevie Nix count?

"Pedro offers you his protection."
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Reply #71 posted 01/10/16 11:42am

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She's The Wiz and nobody beats her.

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Reply #72 posted 01/11/16 5:49pm

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Since we're talking about the (over?)hype of Adele as a white female artist that can sing r&b/soul and received mainstream crossover pop type of attention for it in the 2010's, I dare to provoke controversy with two questions:

Neither mind Teena OR Dusty for the time being. Am I the only one that thinks that Lisa Stansfield, by herself and in her prime as a soulful vocalist, would have kicked Adele's ass?


And also, how come Lisa, at the height of her career, never sold so many albums as quickly and in as high number volumes as Adele is within two career albums?


Discuss. cool

THANK YOU! i'm glad somebody made up this tread especially Teena Marie. It would've been nice for her to have had an even bigger career and accolades before she passed. I agree with Lisa Stansfield as well.

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Reply #73 posted 01/11/16 7:02pm

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MotownSubdivision said:

Why was he there?

Not sure. But I've heard that it was either Michael Jackson asked Berry Gordy to book Adam when Gordy asked Mike to do the show after he turned down Suzanne De Passe or that it was an idea of NBC to get younger viewers. At any rate according to Adam, he was invited to Hayvenhurst. Linda Ronstadt was on Motown 25 too, but I guess it's because she remade a few Smokey Robinson songs. On other Motown specials, there were non-Motown acts like Boy George & George Michael.


You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #74 posted 02/12/16 12:33pm

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You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #75 posted 02/12/16 12:40pm

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Adele Had Us Long Before “Hello”

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #76 posted 02/12/16 3:24pm

legna

she strikes a chord with Gothy-emo

Millennials.

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Reply #77 posted 02/12/16 3:52pm

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legna said:

she strikes a chord with Gothy-emo


Millennials.


...and non "Gothy-emo" millenials and adults.
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Reply #78 posted 02/14/16 6:11am

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TonyVanDam said:

Since we're talking about the (over?)hype of Adele as a white female artist that can sing r&b/soul and received mainstream crossover pop type of attention for it in the 2010's, I dare to provoke controversy with two questions:

Neither mind Teena OR Dusty for the time being. Am I the only one that thinks that Lisa Stansfield, by herself and in her prime as a soulful vocalist, would have kicked Adele's ass?


And also, how come Lisa, at the height of her career, never sold so many albums as quickly and in as high number volumes as Adele is within two career albums?


Discuss. cool

Simple...different times...today more than ever, radio plays the same artists...over and over. Alot of artists sound similar as well. Selling albums is a hit or miss (you have to have a huge loyal fan base to begin with to consistantly sell big). Lisa just never took off... she seemed to start well..but you need to follow it up. She had a great voice, but the material was strong enough. Also to be a big artist, you need promotion and backing. Houston and Carey are two examples of huge backing and promotion by their labels. Houston debut album cost 1/2 million to record and Clive Davis poured 3 million into promotion. Carey was 5 year later, 800 thousand was spent on her debut record. Mutola like Davis also had long reach of industry connections...I don't know about Adele... I don't know if her management team is great or even who they are. But as far as being a good singer in todays market - she is - but there is far less to choose from - then there was in 80s when Lisa Stanfeild began.

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Reply #79 posted 02/21/16 8:06am

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Adele had the #1 song on the BILLBOARD ADULT R&B CHART last week. She de-throned "Shame" by Tyrese. This week Tyrese returns to #1 and Adele falls to #5.

When someone can get me to see how "Hello" is r&b, I will be okay.


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Reply #80 posted 02/21/16 9:24am

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RnBAmbassador said:

When someone can get me to see how "Hello" is r&b, I will be okay.

It's just as R&B as these older songs that were R&B hits. razz

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Diana Ross ~ It's My Turn

George Benson / Whitney Houston ~ Greatest Love Of All

Commodores ~ Three Times A Lady

Lionel Richie ~ Say You Say Me

Michael Jackson ~ Ben

Billy Preston & Syreeta Wright ~ With You I'm Born Again

Peabo Bryson & Regina Belle ~ A Whole New World

Jeffrey Osborne ~ On The Wings Of Love

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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