Remember yall big artists pay radio stations to play their stuff.

No offense to Adele...She is not a soul artist..

Lady T, Lisa, Joss, and Amy would out-sing her in the Soul Department.....

I'd also give some honorable mentions to Sheena and Taylor Dane, and Christina (who is "hispanic" though)

Pink.

Linn4days said:

No offense to Adele...She is not a soul artist..

Lady T, Lisa, Joss, and Amy would out-sing her in the Soul Department.....

I'd also give some honorable mentions to Sheena and Taylor Dane, and Christina (who is "hispanic" though)

Pink.

Dang, I forgot all about Taylor Dane, I love her music!!!!

Identity said:

Adele is a well-marketed pop singer with vast appeal. Key word being pop. Presently, her album isn't among the top 15 R & B albums on the charts. So I'm befuddled by the knee-jerk attempts to label her a "soul singer".

I wish people would stop it. Adele is a pop singer with a bit of a soulful tone at times.

She's damn good at what she does too. Many people are becoming fatigued with over the top gimmicks already. Adele is talented and keeps it simple and straightforward without excessive spectacle and BS.

TonyVanDam said:

Since we're talking about the (over?)hype of Adele as a white female artist that can sing r&b/soul and received mainstream crossover pop type of attention for it in the 2010's, I dare to provoke controversy with two questions:

Neither mind Teena OR Dusty for the time being. Am I the only one that thinks that Lisa Stansfield, by herself and in her prime as a soulful vocalist, would have kicked Adele's ass?


And also, how come Lisa, at the height of her career, never sold so many albums as quickly and in as high number volumes as Adele is within two career albums?

Discuss.

1. Adele is not a soul singer.

2. I never could stand Lisa Stansfield for some reason.

Linn4days said:

No offense to Adele...She is not a soul artist..

Lady T, Lisa, Joss, and Amy would out-sing her in the Soul Department.....

I'd also give some honorable mentions to Sheena and Taylor Dane, and Christina (who is "hispanic" though)

Pink.

That's the thing, I've never heard Adele say that she is. Other people keep trying to force that label on her.

Give me Teena Marie and Amy.

To be fair, there is a man behind their music.

babynoz said:

Identity said:

Adele is a well-marketed pop singer with vast appeal. Key word being pop. Presently, her album isn't among the top 15 R & B albums on the charts. So I'm befuddled by the knee-jerk attempts to label her a "soul singer".

I wish people would stop it. Adele is a pop singer with a bit of a soulful tone at times.

She's damn good at what she does too. Many people are becoming fatigued with over the top gimmicks already. Adele is talented and keeps it simple and straightforward without excessive spectacle and BS.

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I agree with both of these senitments. Adele has never claimed to be anything other than a singer. Media, blogs, and people in general are intent on having this faux debate. Just because she throws in a nice vocal run here and there, doesn't make her a R&B/Soul singer.

Musicslave said:

babynoz said:

I wish people would stop it. Adele is a pop singer with a bit of a soulful tone at times.

She's damn good at what she does too. Many people are becoming fatigued with over the top gimmicks already. Adele is talented and keeps it simple and straightforward without excessive spectacle and BS.

-

I agree with both of these senitments. Adele has never claimed to be anything other than a singer. Media, blogs, and people in general are intent on having this faux debate. Just because she throws in a nice vocal run here and there, doesn't make her a R&B/Soul singer.

Exactly.

Amy Winehouse was great.

NorthC said:

You need to have an image. So Prince was the freaky sex god, Madonna was the naughty girl, The Rolling Stones were the bad boys and Adele is the girl next door.

Maybe that's why Chris Brown has the #1 R&B album.

Is it a False debate?....I mean, really.....This is what we need to know....BEFORE Adele blew up in The States did she not correct Interviewers/Talk Hosts/Radio DJ's when they referred to her as "Soul Singer Adele"? Of course she's gonna wear her Pop crown today, but was she COOL with being called a "Soul Singer" before she made it big?...Pink was cool with it back in the day....

Thank Mark Ronson.

Amy is the best. She was pure soul. Betta than even Badu.

MickyDolenz said:

She does have the #8 song on the Adult R&B songs chart.

So... does this mean America has a childrens R&B chart???

My local R&B station doesn't even play her version of "Hello". They play a remake by some guy.

Chancellor said:

Is it a False debate?....I mean, really.....This is what we need to know....BEFORE Adele blew up in The States did she not correct Interviewers/Talk Hosts/Radio DJ's when they referred to her as "Soul Singer Adele"? Of course she's gonna wear her Pop crown today, but was she COOL with being called a "Soul Singer" before she made it big?...Pink was cool with it back in the day....

To me she doesn't seem fazed by any of it....she just lets them talk.

Smart girl. She knows they don't know jack anyways.

TheSkinMechanic said:

MickyDolenz said:

She does have the #8 song on the Adult R&B songs chart.

So... does this mean America has a childrens R&B chart???

Yes. it's called Hip Hop/R&B Songs chart.

TheSkinMechanic said:

MickyDolenz said:

She does have the #8 song on the Adult R&B songs chart.

So... does this mean America has a childrens R&B chart???

It's basically a adult contemporary type of R&B station that generally has an older audience. They play singers like Charlie Wilson, Jill Scott, Jahiem and sometimes smooth jazz acts who don't get played on the main R&B stations, which play Rihanna, Trey Songz, and rap music. They're counted on the main R&B chart. Adult R&B is a sub-chart of a sub-chart. It used to be called "urban contemporary", I don't know when it changed to "adult R&B". Billboard is always changing the names of charts. The mainstream pop chart is the Hot 100.

kitbradley said:

TheSkinMechanic said:

So... does this mean America has a childrens R&B chart???

Yes. it's called Hip Hop/R&B Songs chart.

!!

kitbradley said:

TheSkinMechanic said:

So... does this mean America has a childrens R&B chart???

Yes. it's called Hip Hop/R&B Songs chart.

MickyDolenz said:

It's basically a adult contemporary type of R&B station that generally has an older audience. They play singers like Charlie Wilson, Jill Scott, Jahiem and sometimes smooth jazz acts who don't get played on the main R&B stations, which play Rihanna, Trey Songz, and rap music. They're counted on the main R&B chart. Adult R&B is a sub-chart of a sub-chart. It used to be called "urban contemporary", I don't know when it changed to "adult R&B". Billboard is always changing the names of charts. The mainstream pop chart is the Hot 100.

..Exactly...The same Adult R&B station that airs The Steve Harvey Morning show is probably the only R&B station that Plays Adele in my town...The other Stations play R&B/Hip-Hop/Rap and attract younger listeners...

Henry Rollins does a radio show the way it should exist. He just plays songs, any song he likes. all types.

Timing. Is. Everything.

2freaky4church1 said:

Henry Rollins does a radio show the way it should exist. He just plays songs, any song he likes. all types.

Thats why radio used to be fun and interesting. Each DJ had his own unique vibe and there were no corporate playlists even though most of them still took $$ to play certain songs.

African-American artists can't get airplay on pop formats, so besides of the obvious political $$$$$ machine of Sony Music Entertainment why is Adele playing on Hot-Hip & R&B formats and Adult R&B formats?

There is nothing soulful about her voice at all. She has a very nice voice, but she doesn't sing one note in a r&b type way.

Lydia Pense of Cold Blood, Joss Stone, Beth Hart, Christina Aguillera, Ariana Grande and the late singers Dusty Springfield and Teena Marie are soulful singers for White ladies IMHO.

Joss Stone's latest single is straight up r&b, it is called "This Ain't Love".

RnBAmbassador said:

African-American artists can't get airplay on pop formats, so besides of the obvious political $$$$$ machine of Sony Music Entertainment why is Adele playing on Hot-Hip & R&B formats and Adult R&B formats?

There is nothing soulful about her voice at all. She has a very nice voice, but she doesn't sing one note in a r&b type way.

Lydia Pense of Cold Blood, Joss Stone, Beth Hart, Christina Aguillera, Ariana Grande and the late singers Dusty Springfield and Teena Marie are soulful singers for White ladies IMHO.

Joss Stone's latest single is straight up r&b, it is called "This Ain't Love".

Adele is only being played on Adult R&B radio stations in certain markets. I have not heard her songs on those stations here in Michigan.

RnBAmbassador said:

why is Adele playing on Hot-Hip & R&B formats and Adult R&B formats?

No different than the past. I remember in the 1980s, the local R&B stations played songs by The Romantics, Pet Shop Boys, Sheena Easton, Corey Hart, Yes, Falco, Depeche Mode, Gloria Estefan & Miami Sound Machine, Madonna, Duran Duran, Billy Joel, Culture Club, New Kids On The Block, Rolling Stones, Sting, and other pop acts. Video Soul showed the video for All She Wants To Do Is Dance by Don Henley and Bad Is Bad by Huey Lewis & The News.

babynoz said:

Linn4days said:

No offense to Adele...She is not a soul artist..

Lady T, Lisa, Joss, and Amy would out-sing her in the Soul Department.....

I'd also give some honorable mentions to Sheena and Taylor Dane, and Christina (who is "hispanic" though)

Pink.

That's the thing, I've never heard Adele say that she is. Other people keep trying to force that label on her.

Give me Teena Marie and Amy.

I never said that I've read, seen, or heard Adele claim to be a Soul Artist, or aspire to be soulful in singing style (like adlibs).

My "no offense to Adele" is because the women that I mention would do "Soul" adlibs, and "vocal gymnastics" that Adele would not do. Can she?

She does not seem to have that kind of mentality..or spirit and essence too.

I don't think that she has to. I would not want her to. She's doing fine, and it would ruin some of her most memoral works (if she made an attempt then).

People can sing along without being intimidated.. I think that is her attribute that is over-looked.

MickyDolenz said:

RnBAmbassador said:

why is Adele playing on Hot-Hip & R&B formats and Adult R&B formats?

No different than the past. I remember in the 1980s, the local R&B stations played songs by The Romantics, Pet Shop Boys, Sheena Easton, Corey Hart, Yes, Falco, Depeche Mode, Gloria Estefan & Miami Sound Machine, Madonna, Duran Duran, Billy Joel, Culture Club, New Kids On The Block, Rolling Stones, Sting, and other pop acts. Video Soul showed the video for All She Wants To Do Is Dance by Don Henley and Bad Is Bad by Huey Lewis & The News.

I only remember Teddy Riley remixes or production of Rod Stewart, Boy George, and Jane Child...

George Michael/Wham "Careless Whisper"..

Sheena when Babyface was producing... Madonna's "Take a Bow" was not played here...

Everyone else..were "Soulful" side:

Simply Red

Sweetback? They don't count as they were "Sade" without Sade...

Taylor Dane

Human League, but it's Jam & Lewis.. there other stuff was not being played.

Bowie's "Let's Dance" might be in a weekend mix (Still produced by R&B disco officianado, Nile Rodgers)

Maybe Sting: "W'ell be together tonight" (Vesta Williams background vocals clear as day...)

Lisa Stanfield was regular airplay here in Atlanta..

Not much...

^^Here's an old Jet Magazine chart with Falco at #12

This one has a Tears For Fears album at #10