Can you believe it? I think the Frida shoulda won... but, I was happy that Em won it, and not U2. Don't get me wrong, I love U2... but they were so smug about the nom, a little too cocky, like they expected to win, hands down.

Eminem's win smacks of the Purple Rain trip... when Prince won... but at least Prince showed up... wtf? Where'd Eminem go?

Your thoughts?

June7 said:

8 mile is the Purple Rain of 2003!!!

and im sticking to that!!!

His "Purple Rain"&His Time.He already said that He wasn't gonna be there&By Him not showing up it works for the Image He plays on TV.Smart PR Move on Eminem's part there.

mistermaxxx said:

It's too bad becuase he could have meet his ideal Babs!

when Eminem wins an award which has been won by so many talented people like Prince...
its time 2 cancel the whole muthafuckin thing i reckon

:disbelief"

June7 said:

Eminem is staying in the recording studio basically to work with his groups and work on his next album.

He says said that he's concerned that he's too big right now so it's time to lay low and chill. I feel him on that.

Joshy84au said:

softNwet said:

According to the Detroit Free Press, Eminem was at home asleep during the awards while his daughter watched cartoons.

I was absolutely surprised(sp?) and glad he won. Damn, the Oscars are full of surprises, First Denzel and Halle, now Eminem,,,who's next?

This just in...

According to E! Entertainment Television, Eminem was given an ultimatum by the Academy.

Earlier this year, he performed on the Grammy's, his version of the song with the bad words bleeped out. The Academy would have none of that. They told him, either perform the radio friendly version of "Lose Yourself", or don't perform on the show... we all know what choice he made.

June7 said:

Smartest Move He Ever Made because Going to the Oscars&Winning this Early in His Career is the Kiss of Career Death IMHO.Smart PR Move.

mistermaxxx said:

Couldnt agree with you more! Very smart move!

Rhondab said:

With all the talk of people calling him "the new Elvis" and the greatest rapper ever he's smart to lay low and chill. If he starts believing the hype that he's the greatest, the backlash and resentment from other rappers could start. And once that starts, it could spread.

Sueme said:

it has already started because Benzio who Co-Owns the Rap Magazine "The Source" Has said that His Skin is why He is getting Over&there has been a Sublte take by others.but His Association with Dr.Dre won't ever make it a Full Backlash because Respect is there with Dre.of course He has alot of Swagger.I mean How twisted are things now when the Most Important Rapper is White&The Most Important Athelete in Sports Plays Golf is Black&His Name is Tiger Woods.of course when you reach that Highest of High you are never the same.I Dig Tiger.Eminem I Respect His Journey but He ain't doing nothing that 2Pac didn't already do but I understand the Game&Hustle.

mistermaxxx said:

Why is it always a black and white issue? I loved what 2pac did, and I love what Eminem does... they both had/have their separate styles. Eminem's writing skills and his timing is nothing like 2pac's... and vice/versa.

Take their race out of the issue and you have two very good rappers who talk/talked about the conditions they grew up in , their beliefs in their hood, and their fights for the big struggles in life... they also both talk/talked about "bitches and ho's"...

If Pac didn't get his ass shot up, maybe he'd a reached his higher level... the man was an excellent actor, and was recognized for both his acting skills and rapping style... I still cry when I hear "Keep Ya Head Up"...

It's time to erase those color lines...

I am glad he won. All the other songs were so boring. At least Lose yourself has a beat and interesting lyrics. I'm just glad they didn't give it to U2.

June7 said:

Black men invented the rap genre. Now they have to watch as a white man reaps the awards and rewards for being a rapper.

Sueme said:

Plenty of black men have reaped awards and rewards too. I refuse to get involved in a "poor me" mentality on any issue. You are what you make yourself.

I agree that it is harder for people of color to get from point A to point B than it is for whites, but you can't place that mentality on everything in your lives.

I'm Latino, I've not had it the easiest either and I've moved forward, or tried to... but does every conversation involving music, sports or film have to do with who's done what first?

I will not post on this subject regarding blacks and whites again on this post... I just wanted to bring up some musical conversation, not start a race war.

k?

This just in...


Eminem Gives Oscar Thanks
Tue Mar 25, 5:45 PM ET By Josh Grossberg

Eminem an Oscar winner. How's that for street cred?

According to reports, the controversial rapper was more surprised than anybody that his hard-charging rap hit, "Lose Yourself," off the soundtrack to his blockbuster film 8 Mile, scored an Academy Award for Best Original Song on Sunday night, besting the likes of baby-boomer faves U2 and Paul Simon.


But that doesn't mean he wasn't ungrateful.


"Eminem is always thankful when the work he puts into his music is recognized by others," said a spokesman from Interscope Records regarding the rapper's reaction to winning the golden guy with cowriters Jeff Bass and Luis Resto.


The Detroit hip-hopster issued the statement after failing to show up to collect the prize. In fact, his was the one Best Song contender not performed during the ceremony.


It was Resto who did the speechifying, taking the stage dressed in very un-celebrity-like attire (a red-and-blue Detroit Pistons jersey with a gray overcoat instead of traditional black-tie) to accept the first Oscar ever bestowed on a hip-hop artist.


"He's creative, he has symphonies in his head that I'm privileged to put on tape," Resto told the audience about the rap superstar otherwise known as Marshall Mathers III.


"It means a lot to him, believe me, this means a whole lot to him," Resto told reporters backstage later. "I just don't think he expected it. So, this is fantastic."


According to Resto, Eminem was just too busy running his record label Shady Records to get away to attend Sunday's ceremonies. The official line from the Academy and his spokesman, however, had Mathers taking a break from the spotlight, opting to stay home with his infant daughter Hailie (and reportedly repair his relationship with his estranged ex-wife, Kim).


It's been a good run for Eminem, whose rhymes these days are as popular with balding middle-aged movie executives as they are with kids in the hood.


His latest blockbuster album, The Eminem Show, has sold over seven million copies since its release last summer and won a Grammy last month for Best Rap Album.


"Lose Yourself," meanwhile, sat at the top of the Billboard charts for 12 weeks in a row, making it the biggest pop hit so far in the new millennium.


And then, of course, there's his mega-hit movie debut, 8 Mile, which was inspired by the rapper's trailer-park upbringing. That flick not only launched Em's acting career, but it also made a bundle, grossing north of $116 million at the box office last year. The chart-topping soundtrack has also done multiplatinum business.


And the 8 Mile DVD is looking to do even better.


Fans last week plunked down a record $75 million for the Universal Home Videos Release, which hit stores last week and went the distance, marking the biggest DVD debut ever for an R-rated movie.


The DVD features the usual behind-the-scenes documentary and lots of footage that was left on the cutting-room floor, including five rap battles, as well as spontaneous rhyming from the master himself. And as an added bonus, there's a music video for the song "Superman" that's being released only on the DVD.

Sueme said:

It's not like the hip hop genre is dominated by anyone other than Blacks, and other Black rappers have received high profile awards throughout the years too. So that's a non-issue.

I say this not to defend the 2pac/Eminem comparison, because I'm not a fan of either one. But when you bring up watching a White man reap awards and rewards in a genre invented by Blacks, a genre STILL dominated by Blacks who are awarded yearly, it seems to come across as an excuse.

June7 said:

I Respect Eminem because His Film was Pretty Good&He can Flow.but don't tell me He did anything that 2Pac didn't do.2Pac Acted&did all of the same things as Eminem.BTW Before you Shoot off all that Pac Smack He got Shot for trying to Get away from Suge&Crew.Pac wanted out&Death was His Only way.Only Peeps on there Pac know the Real Deal at the end on that.of course Everything is Black&White in Amerikkka Wake up&Smell the Roses!Pac did Reach a Higher Level Because He touched alot of People in His All-to Short time on earth.Pac had many sides to Him if you don't know than I suggest you Peeping out Michael Eric Dyson's Book on Pac.He breaks it all done 10 Fold. as for Eminem: He is Legit but I still prefer MC Search from 3rd Base overall in terms of my All-Time Favorite White Rapper&Yes I ain't PC I Call it&Say it as I Damn well Please.Don't be afraid to talk about our Differences it's healthy.Eminem I will say is the Pulse of Pop Music as we speak now.Eminem is to Music the way Tiger Woods is to Golf.but I dig Tiger Because we Ain't gonna See anyone else like Him again.let me see where Eminem is 5 Years from now&I'll get back to you on Him.but the Cat is a Money Machine.

Sueme said:

This is such bullshit and even racist! If a black man would write a good (rap-)tune for a movie and would have been nominated, he would stand just as much chance to win! Face it, 'Loose Yourself' is an exceptional good rap-tune that just happens to be in a (good) movie. Therefore it was awarded. Black rappers should be encouraged by Eminem's achievement, it proved that critics (in this case the Academy) are listening and willing to stick their heads out. Credit to who's credit due, this is the best thing that happened to rap in years!

abierman said:

I don't think any other rap song has even been nominated before! Are you trying to tell me that "Loose Yourself" is the best rap song ever in a movie? Face it, the Academy Awards aren't cutting edge ever! The only picked "Loose Yourself" becuase it was such a bit hit (and meanwhile, that was radio that made it a hit, not single sales). The media is pushing Eminem when they used to bash all rap/hip-hop. He might be talented, but he sure gets a lot of extra help!

VinnyM27 said:

He is a Talented Cat no DOubt:but his Shade has helped Him Leaps&Bounds as well no matter what anyone says.

VinnyM27 said:

Coolio and Stevie Wonder should have gotten the first rap Oscar for Gangsta's Paradise in 1995. The American public is showing it's hypocracy and racism by pushing Eminem as a genius of the rap genre.

It was cool when Eminem was doing his thang and was more or less equal with the brothas. But this is bullshit to elevate him above everybody and push him to the top of the mountain as King of Rap.

Sueme said:

Coolio should have I agree.Stevie already has one for "I just Called to Say I Love You".but Great point on Coolio because no matter what you thought about Coolio that Song had a Strong Buzz.I think Eminem is Alright but not worth the Extra Hype&Attention He gets but the Cat is Legit.

Where Eminem differs from his black colleagues (and maybe therefore stands out) is that he is talking about his own life and misery instead of the usual bling-bling, bitches & ho's, the money and the cars. Here's a man from Detroit (how glamorous is that) who's got issues and talks about it, his estranged wife, his daughter, and him being white in the 'black' rap-community. Listen to 'White America' and you'll know how he thinks about it. In the meantime Jay-Z is driving his Aston Martin Vanguish together with hot-chick Beyonce as if they are Bonnie & Clyde, such bullshit. It is too easy to say that Eminem gets his props just because he is white, you think that Dr. Dre would produce a white rapper that is not talented?
'Loose Yourself' is probably not the best rap-song ever in a film, but this specific song and it's content fits perfectly in the movie '8 Mile'. The song sums more or less the whole movie up. I think that is what the Academy recognized, and no, the Academy is not cutting edge...and they are not meant to be. It just happened to be this year's best song in a film!

Cut the race-crap, it is too easy and Eminem will keep on proving you wrong!
[This message was edited Thu Mar 27 0:32:04 PST 2003 by abierman]