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El DeBarge/Heart, Mind & Soul

Marvin Gaye has served as the coked-out patron saint for countless soul men who rightfully hear in his voice and music something sonically special and painfully honest. In his nearly forty-five year lifetime, Gaye rose from wannabe lounge lizard worshipping at the altar of Frank Sinatra to become one of the most distinctive vocalists of his generation. Coming out of the Motown music factory in the sixties, Gaye not only made hit singles (“Hitchhike,” “If This World Was Mine”), but also forced the label to think beyond their 7-inch singles mentality when he crafted the brilliant concept album What’s Going On in 1971. A hard-hitting aural statement that was sung in the softest voice,What’s Going On was as powerful as Martin Luther King marching through Selma, as strong as a Malcolm Xspeech, and as rousing as a Molotov cocktail thrown from a moving car during yet another civil unrest.

More than four decades later, Gaye’s song cycle that includes the endearing title track, “Mercy Mercy Me” and “Inner City Blues” remains a rhythmic blueprint for others to follow. While some artists might’ve slacked on their studio pimpin’ after making a masterpiece such as this, Gaye continued to create thrilling albums for Motown that ranged from the jazzed-out blaxploitation soundtrack Trouble Man, the sexed-out Let’s Get It On and the ass-out Here, My Dear. Through it all, cocaine was his main man, that good shit that would get the creative juices flowing. “I’m passionate about good cocaine,” he once said. As documented in David Ritz’s brilliant Divided Soul as well as the recently released After the Dance by Jan Gaye, brother Marvin’s problem was all too real when it came to his mind games. But when it came to music, his genius was on point no matter how numb his tongue might’ve been.

Of course, showbiz being what it has always been, Gaye didn’t receive a nod from the gatekeepers until he left Motown and released his least ambitious album Midnight Love in 1983, for which he won a Grammy. A year later, caught-up in the haze of a coke addiction that some say contributed to his brutal murder at the hands of his father, the troubled man was gone, but his zooted spirit sniffed on in the imaginations of soulful upstarts. Unfortunately, much like Charlie Parker’s romantic hop-head behavior that encouraged a generation of jazz junkies to spike themselves as they searched for genius within the head-nodding solitude of their heroin habits, Gaye’s powdered adventures inspired legions of white line sniffers searching for the true essence of soul music at the end of their straws or rolled-up hundred dollar bills.

For some artists, issues with drugs could be the end of their careers, while other more complex cats like D’Angelo,Robin Thicke, who even made a song called “Cocaine,” and The Weeknd, get a creative pass and their drug use has become a part of their tortured mythology. Singer/songwriter El DeBarge was yet another Marvin Gaye worshipper who would go on to struggle with his quite publicized bouts with Bolivian marching powder.

Many of us grew up watching El back when he and his siblings were signed to Motown and recorded majestic ballads (“All This Love,” “Stay With Me”), as well as the reggae tinged post-disco show stopper “Rhythm Of The Night.” Hailing from Grand Rapids, Michigan, the DeBarges (Bunny, Randy, Mark and El) were church kids raised on hymns and AM radio; the Carpenters were a big influence on their sound. Their big brother Bobby, who was the lead singer in Switch (founded by boyhood friend Gregory Williams), had laid the falsetto wailing groundwork for the family on classic tracks “There Will Never Be” and “I Call Your Name.”

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Reply #1 posted 08/10/15 8:22am

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Good read. I just think its amazing how well his voice has held up despite the years of drug abuse. Some can use drugs for years and it has (seemingly) no affects on their singing voice. Then you have others that end up sounding like dying frogs or something like that. Maybe it depends on the type of abuse. Maybe its genetics... idk

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But his single, "You Know What I Like" had me sold from the jump. He sounds angelic, soulful and Marvinlike as ever and Chante Moore had me mesmerized. "Stop the press, who's that?"

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Was this before her single "Love Is Taken Over" or no? I think this dropped the same year her single was released.

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Reply #2 posted 08/10/15 9:00am

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El: The GOAT. That is all there is to it.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #3 posted 08/10/15 12:52pm

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scriptgirl said:

El: The GOAT. That is all there is to it.

lol hey script. i'd thought this thread would bring you back to the org. to say something. biggrin


(IMHO) I found the article to be overly dramatic and pretentious. I could go on and on but in a nut shell or two or three things.

Bobby, Bonnie, Chico, El, The Debarge's get an I for incomplete... what might have been. They aren't the first to cock up a music career sadly, they won't be the last.


My humble opinion after thinking about why El's solo career went know where... besides the drug addiction. Like Bobby, El would have fared better if he had remained apart of the group.
I'm aware one of the reasons for the solo career was because his sibling were drugged out. Gordy label move to Coo Pop Fluff was the other. 'Bout time Heart, Mind and Soul came out... Hip/Hop and Rap were bummping everyone out the game. Some of El's albums/songs weren't as good as they could have or should have been.


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Reply #4 posted 08/11/15 12:41pm

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Ms Trina, you know me well. I agree with all you have said. I think that El does not have the charisma to be a stand alone solo/artist superstar. certainly not back at that time.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #5 posted 08/12/15 7:02am

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excited A Debarge thread excited

Marvin would've been proud of this Trouble Man

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Reply #6 posted 08/12/15 7:07am

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I'm sorry script ...but I'm ahead of you loving on the Debarge(s)..check out my

avatar and you will understand. razz lol wink

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Reply #7 posted 08/12/15 2:48pm

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scriptgirl said:

Ms Trina, you know me well. I agree with all you have said. I think that El does not have the charisma to be a stand alone solo/artist superstar. certainly not back at that time.

I read a blog some years the author list the name of artist/singers who's career didn't fare well after they left their respective band / groups. I still looking for that blog.


As much as El (Bobby as their mentor) was the foundation for the group Debarge, his siblings contribution to their songs, sound, and success can't be denied. Its unfortunate they could've avoid the "junk" but hey... it is what it came to be. El neeedd his siblings on so many levels. I think he's a fragile man, and I don't slay that as a slight. But then, I don't think he would have ever mess around with drugs if his siblings hadn't been so deeply involved. Oh well...

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Reply #8 posted 08/12/15 2:48pm

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RosesRred said:

I'm sorry script ...but I'm ahead of you loving on the Debarge(s)..check out my

avatar and you will understand. razz lol wink

lol lol lol I knew lyou'd pop up too. wink

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Reply #9 posted 08/12/15 6:21pm

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RosesRred said:


I'm sorry script ...but I'm ahead of you loving on the Debarge(s)..check out my


avatar and you will understand. razz lol wink


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lol lol lol I knew lyou'd pop up too. wink


lol i need rehab wink
Desiigner "Panda" LES TWINS x YAK FILMS | Laurent ft Skitzo & Boom Squad Inglewood heart (part 1)
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