It's arguably the most "interesting" Jacksons album. I actually liked that the other brothers got a chance to shine on this one, rather than everything being so Michael-dominated. After all, isn't that what his solo albums were for?

I wouldn't have minded Mike 'pulling a Victory' about once a decade or so... by which I mean, rejoining the brothers for an album but only contributing three or four songs. Just an idea...

I always loved the album cover......that was a great album cover

I never felt the Victory Tour should have taken place though, not during the year it did take place

Too much filler. Victory contains four marginally likable songs, one of which ("Be Not Always") has classic potential.

Identity said:

I like it too don't worry

its an ok album but it seems like it was thrown together to capitolize off the thriller phenomenon just like the tour.

lowkey said:

babybugz said:

Buffalo Bill > Be Not Always

Only 2 videos were made for that albums and none of them featured Jermaine and Michael

JabarR74 said:

if a song like Torture was released for the first time in 2015, it would blow every other record out of the water and what's funny, in 1984, as good as it was, it did not reach #1

"One More Chance" is easily the best song the album has to offer, imo.

It's a very mediocre album.It's obvious that Michael didn't wanna participate,but he felt obligated.Notice that,on one of his contributions ("State Of Shock"),he sings with Mick Jaggger instead of one of his own brothers.That tells you how he really felt about his brothers

The "Body" video is hilarious alot of unintentional humor in that clip

SoulAlive said:

SoulAlive said:

Scorp said:

SoulAlive said:

I think "Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming" is better than anything on Victory.Epic should have fought hard to have that song included on Victory.

Amen, that was a brilliant record

I think it's even better than "State Of Shock"

Scorp said:

I always loved the album cover......that was a great album cover

the only good thing about this album.

although the cover is also a bit strange.

5 (well, 4, except for Tito) Strong, muscular, sexy, scantily clad guys ...and Michael in the background.

but cover catchy and attracts attention.

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SoulAlive said:

Scorp said:

SoulAlive said: Amen, that was a brilliant record

I think it's even better than "State Of Shock"

same here

SoulAlive said:

I think "Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming" is better than anything on Victory.Epic should have fought hard to have that song included on Victory.

I'll give you this. Song is fire.

And yes, it's much better than "State of Shock".

MotownSubdivision said:

SoulAlive said:

I think "Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming" is better than anything on Victory.Epic should have fought hard to have that song included on Victory.

I'll give you this. Song is fire.

And yes, it's much better than "State of Shock".

Coming off the back of 'Destiny' & 'Triumph' which are definitely strong albums with really good songs, Victory actually kinda falls flat in comparison. IMO, 'One More Chance' is the standout track and IIRC doesn't have any involvement from Michael. With Jermaine back on board they should have pulled all the stops out, but what I wonder when you analyse the creative direction, is do they go with the current 80's style production of the time (more R&B/soul orientated like the Gap Band, One Way, Midnight Star etc), more pop-soul like Kool & The Gang were doing, or do they go retro and go back to a more traditional Motown-esque sound to hark back to their J5 days?. MJ was probably like I wanna work on the follow up to Thriller and was keeping his best songs for that, whilst the other brothers wanted to try & forge a career for themselves independently of Mike (who they no doubt knew wanted to go solo and break away from the Jacksons), so I think it's like they were going in two different directions. I think if the story in the J Randy Taraborrelli book is true, Michael was cajoled into working with his bro's again by Katherine, so it could have been a case of him being along for the ride, but didn't want to be too hands on with the project. Could be wrong though. I'd like to have heard a continuation of 'Triumph' and them trying to go forward with their music and perhaps try and incorporate some new emerging sounds like hip hop in their music. I'm not saying they should have started rapping but maybe did like a cool hip hop style beat and maybe got like Run-DMC on a song to show they were moving with the times and be like when MJ did the Rock/Pop-Soul crossover with Beat It.

thetimefan said:

I think if the story in the J Randy Taraborrelli book is true, Michael was cajoled into working with his bro's again by Katherine, so it could have been a case of him being along for the ride, but didn't want to be too hands on with the project.

I believe that story.Katherine talked Michael into doing that album and tour with his brothers.In my opinion,'Destiny' should have been Michael's final album with his brothers.A year later he released OTW and that album turned him into a solo superstar.He had proven that he could do it on his own,with amazing results.