RJOrion said:

be clear...this album was, and still is, trash... all it did was confirm that Michael, Jermaine & Janet should be the only Jackson siblings ever allowed near a recording studio [

What this album really confirmed to me is that,Michael should have left the group after Off The Wall

SoulAlive said:

SoulAlive said:

thedoorkeeper said:

RJOrion said:

SoulAlive said:

What this album really confirmed to me is that,Michael should have left the group after Off The Wall

Michael should have left the group after "I Want You Back"

And that proves that you have no idea what you are talking about.

State Of Shock is my favorite song sung by Michael Jackson.... Yeah! I said it!!!

Or he was just carrying on with his tradition of doing hit duets with Legends..

Paul Mccartney, Freddie Mercury ect..

SoulAlive said:

It's a very mediocre album.It's obvious that Michael didn't wanna participate,but he felt obligated.Notice that,on one of his contributions ("State Of Shock"),he sings with Mick Jaggger instead of one of his own brothers.That tells you how he really felt about his brothers

The "Body" video is hilarious alot of unintentional humor in that clip

agreed..

SoulAlive said:

I think "Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming" is better than anything on Victory.Epic should have fought hard to have that song included on Victory.

State of Shock kicks ass for what it is...

djThunderfunk said:

State Of Shock is my favorite song sung by Michael Jackson.... Yeah! I said it!!!

RJOrion said:

We need the outtakes to appear. Buffalo Bill and others.

Also, greatest album cover ever.

thedoorkeeper said:

MotownSubdivision said:

thedoorkeeper said:

Has Buffalo Bill ever leaked? Anybody heard it?

Could've sworn I heard it a few years ago when I looked it up on YouTube but I'm likely remembering incorrectly.

I think lyrics are on the web somewhere, but not the song.

These are all of the songs known that were submitted for Victory.

Michael
State of Shock ft. Mick Jagger 1983
Be Not Always 1984
Pyramid Girl 1983
Buffalo Bill 1984
State of Shock ft. Freddie Mercury 1983
Victory ft. Freddie Mercury 1983
Jackie
Torture [Original version with Jackie and Michael] 1983
Nona [tribute to Sophia Loren] 1983
Torture [Victory version with Jermaine and Michael] 1984
Wait 1984
Power 1984
Tito
We Can Change The World 1983
Bad Company 1983
Marlon
Body 1983
Where Do I Stand? 1983
I’m In Love With You 1983
Randy
One More Chance 1984
The Hurt 1984
Still In Love With You 1983

Wasn't Victory (the track with Freddie Mercury) supposed to be released as part of the recent Queen project?

As for songs on the album, I always liked this mix of Torture

"Victory is a very good al... I said it"

Alex Jones says Obama was born in Kenya. Saying something doesn't make it true. I'm sure it's a very good album to you, though. That much is certainly true.

steakfinger said:

Teddy Riley did some songs on the 2300 Jackson Street album including the title track. I wonder did Mike choose him for Dangerous as a result of this.

Doalwa said:

MotownSubdivision said:

I'd replace "State of Shock" with "Wait" (should have been a single), "The Hurt", or even "We Can Change the World" (which had single potential as well).

Mick Jagger's solo career didn't seem to do that well except for a couple of duets, State Of Shock + Dancing In The Street with David Bowie.

MickyDolenz said:

MotownSubdivision said:

Was he solo in 1984?

No, I think the Stones were still releasing singles from their 1983 album Undercover. Mick's 1st solo album came out in 1985, and then another Stones album came out in 1986, and Mick released a solo in 1987.