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Whitney biopic on lifetime -- pretty damn good Anybody else watching ? | |
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I watched it and I liked it. I think that Angela Bassett did a good job, and so did the actors she cast, not to mention Deborah Cox, who's voice was used in the singing. She has a great voice and sounded a lot like Whitney. It made me sad though, because it made me miss Whitney. It breaks my heart that she died so tragically and is no longer here. | |
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The movie went too far out of its way to be sympathetic to Bobby, depicting him too soulful and naive, almost as if it was trying to scream at the viewer that we should let go of the general perception that being married to him is what brought her down. While I don't believe he was to blame for all of her problems, I don't believe he was as nice, calm or borderline innocent as the movie seemed to want to suggest.
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I want to see it too. I hope they showed a lot about the crack. I'd especially like to see a scene where she and Cherrelle shared an apartment and she stayed in her bedroom for days and didn't come out and kept using an unwashed sex toy. Of course, I'd have to turn the sound down once they started playing her music though. Hopefully, they did it similar to the VH1 Michael Jackson movie where they didn't include any music. . . . [Edited 1/18/15 4:41am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Qazz said: The movie went too far out of its way to be sympathetic to Bobby, depicting him too soulful and naive, almost as if it was trying to scream at the viewer that we should let go of the general perception that being married to him is what brought her down. While I don't believe he was to blame for all of her problems, I don't believe he was as nice, calm or borderline innocent as the movie seemed to want to suggest.
This should have been a 2-part miniseries that focused on childhood, early fame and maybe just her meeting him in the first part...then in the second part focus on Bobby/Bodygaurd/tabloids/drugs in the second half. It also should have aired on broadcast television, rather than basic cable. [Edited 1/18/15 2:14am] I thought it was smart to just focus on one part of her life -- the Bobby years. It did a good job of showing that she had her own demons before, during and after him. No way would it have been as effective on regular tv -- did you miss the sex scenes ? Next time if the family wants to contribute they can do a whole sanitized she was an innocent angel version. She died of a drug overdose/ heart attack and I thought the movie did a good job of showing how she was killing herself slowly. | |
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I totally agree on the part I highlighted......that's what I was expecting, the title of the movie threw me off because that's exactly what I was expecting......
if we want a truly accurate account on Whitney, it needs to ben shown how commercial media and urban media started attacking her unmercifully by the end of the 80s, talking about her sexuality, attacking her sexuality, she got attacked from both fronts and I'm sure that played a huge role in the choices she made years after in experimenting with substance use
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You have to remember, their hands were tied as to what material they could use. Whitney's familiy was against the movie from jump, (especially Cissy) so, they weren't going to allow anything from her early life to be depicted. The same goes for them using Whitney's own voice. Hell, I'm surprised Robyn was shown. Overall, it was better than I expected, and MUCH better than that, Aailyah nonsense from a few months ago. [Edited 1/18/15 6:32am] "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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It was ok. It looked low buget just like the Aailyah movie. What did they really show for three hours? Every minute they show them having sex because they had nothing else to show. Call the movie Whitney and Bobby: The Love Story not Whitney. | |
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True dat....
I knew that Aaliyah movie was going to be lackluster...I didn't even watch it
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Purplestar88 said: It was ok. It looked low buget just like the Aailyah movie. What did they really show for three hours? Every minute they show them having sex because they had nothing else to show. Call the movie Whitney and Bobby: The Love Story not Whitney. It was only two hours --- and then an interview with bobby for an hour , then an hour of Whitney live performances. It wasn't the supposed to be about Whitney Houston's entire life... It was a chapter that everybody knew about | |
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In the two hours what did they really show? Every time you look around they was in the bed. It does not matter if it was one chapter of her life or not. The movie was ok. The acting and outfits were ok but the story was poor. It is clear to me they are making a movie about a relationship they didn't know anything about. | |
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In the two hours what did they really show? Every time you look around they was in the bed. It does not matter if it was one chapter of her life or not. The movie was ok. The acting and outfits were ok but the story was poor. It is clear to me they are making a movie about a relationship they didn't know anything about. I guess its pretty impossible to do a detailed biopic in two hours about a celebrity's life without feeling like something got left out. As for the sex, they were a passionate couple and a lot of their issues stemmed from that passion. Makes sense that it would be a big part of the storyline | |
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I love Angela Bassett as an actress but she was very disrespectful to direct this movie knowing the Houston's were against it. How can you create a biopic movie about someone without the family's involvement? I didn't watch this movie because based on the previews I knew it was going to be full of media sensational lies because that is pretty much all the previews show. Ain't no way in hell, Bobby Brown turned down pussy or crack get the hell out of here with that bull crap!!! The producers and Angela ran to Bobby with those lies. Its sad because Whitney's young fans will believe that movie as the truth. Whitney deserves better!!! She deserves an expensive high budget movie about her life. A bio pic is suppose to tell a story about someone's life, childhood, accomplishments, struggles etc. It is not suppose to be "entertaining" and exploitive . I did watch the live Whitney performances though. One word, AMAZING. There will NEVER be another Whitney! God bless you Whitney! | |
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Whitney was not perfect. She had her issues but that does not make everything depicted in the movie true especially since none of the family was involved and they more than likely used Bobby Brown as their main source. I agree with Qazz. I haven't seen the entire movie just bits and pieces including the preview but from what I have heard there was no depiction of her childhood, early life, first record deal, meeting Bobby, and accomplishments. These are very important aspects of her life that should have been covered or at least briefly covered.
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I agree 150%.......never should have made it....it never highlighted the beginning of her career, which was absolutely magfnificent
the Jackson's American Dream Movie was as good as it gets, exceptional, family produced and directed....totally different level
Whitney, the greatest female vocalist of all time...bar none....
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Not necessarily, it can just be about a certain portion. There's a movie about John Lennon's teen years called Nowhere Boy. It's about his relationships with his mother Julia and Aunt Mimi. It goes up to Paul & George joining The Quarrymen and Julia's death. It doesn't get into The Beatles or even Stuart Sutcliffe. There's another movie about the early Beatles in Hamburg called Backbeat. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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mjscarousal said: I love Angela Bassett as an actress but she was very disrespectful to direct this movie knowing the Houston's were against it. How can you create a biopic movie about someone without the family's involvement? I didn't watch this movie because based on the previews I knew it was going to be full of media sensational lies because that is pretty much all the previews show. Ain't no way in hell, Bobby Brown turned down pussy or crack get the hell out of here with that bull crap!!! The producers and Angela ran to Bobby with those lies. Its sad because Whitney's young fans will believe that movie as the truth. Whitney deserves better!!! She deserves an expensive high budget movie about her life. A bio pic is suppose to tell a story about someone's life, childhood, accomplishments, struggles etc. It is not suppose to be "entertaining" and exploitive . I did watch the live Whitney performances though. One word, AMAZING. There will NEVER be another Whitney! God bless you Whitney! Bobby cheated in the movie and did drugs. And he said In the interview afterwards that they both dis drugs and they both cheated-- how is that a whitewash ? What biopic tells a 100% factual story ? What's love go to do with it ? Ray ? Walk the line ? None of them. | |
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The movies you mentioned had a equal balance of everything about that person's life. Also, some of their family and the actual person had some actual involvement in the making of the movie. That was not the case with this Whitney movie. Bobby said in that interview that he was sober for the last 13 years i and that is a bold face lie because he was arrested in 2008 for drug use. I would take what ever Bobby says about anything with a grain of salt. Once again, I know Whitney was no angel but some of the things in the movie were one sided.
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i watched the biopic last night. not sure yet if i liked the way it was presented, but i do have to say i think ya ya dacosta did a good job of portraying whitney houston
(by the way ya ya dacosta was a runner up for america's next model a few years back. she also had a role in 'the butler' with forest whitaker and oprah winfrey
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Let's face it, Whitney's family, the record company, Clive Davis, and even Whitney herself, had us all fooled as to the person she truly was. The first time that I started to see the real Whitney, was during the taping of Being Bobby Brown, otherwise I would still be thinking that Whitney was the good girl, princess that her record company, family, and everyone else involved in her career, wanted us to believe she was. Every time that the media reported on her drug problems, her camp would deny it and say that it was a lie, and come to find out, it was not a lie, but the truth. People have blamed Bobby Brown for years, and many still do, for Whitney's drug use, but that was a lie also. Now we all know that Whitney was doing drugs long before Bobby came into her life, and her own brother admitted on Oprah that it was he that started her with the drugs. Like it or not, Whitney was no angel or princess, and she loved Bobby Brown for the man that he was. Maybe that's because deep down, that she knew that she was no better or different of a person, than he was. Her mom and record company may have wanted her to be the sweet, innocent princess pop star that they tried to create her to be, but Whitney knew that-that image really wasn't her, the real Whitney Houston. Obviously, there was something going on in her life that she couldn't deal with even before meeting and marrying Bobby Brown, because she was doing drugs before that time, and a person just doesn't do drugs for the fun of it, they do it because there's an issue inside of them somewhere that they aren't dealing or coping with. | |
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I never believed Bobby Brown was the reason Whitney was using substance....I never ever believed that
I never viewed her as a goody too shoes, picture perfect
the problem was that everyone else was who was associated w/her career in terms of the image they wanted her to project rather than just simply allowing her to showcase her talent as a vocalist.......that was the problem and Clive was a big part of the problem in that in the beginning when she released her debut single YOU GIVE GOOD LOVE in 1985.......he advised her to refrain from conducting any interviews w/urban radio even when the urban audience, black people was the primary support, fast forward 4 years later, that career advice led to a backlash at the 1989 Sout Train Awards where she was booed, because her record company left her in a position that led that initial audience to conclude she wanted to crossover exclusively.......
and after she was booed, she cried like there was no tomorrow and I'm sure that incident alone triggered, or intensified her use of substance
along w/that, when Whitney gave word she did not want to be America's princess, then commercial media AND urban media started questioning her sexuality
so now she found herself ostracized by both fronts and I always believed during the time she started her relationship w/Bobby Brown, Brown was the #1 R&B artist in the country, that Whitney started that relationship, a primary reason why was in hopes of improving her stance w/the black audience (record buyers), when it wasn't even her fault why she found herself having to improve that association, and I'm sure Brown picked up on that
if they really want to make a true biopic, they need to include all of this too and I'm sure that the public will find that dynamic more troubling than her relationship/marriage with Bobby Brown
its' easy to dump on Bobby Brown and make him the scapegoat.....
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mjscarousal said:
The movies you mentioned had a equal balance of everything about that person's life. Also, some of their family and the actual person had some actual involvement in the making of the movie. That was not the case with this Whitney movie. Bobby said in that interview that he was sober for the last 13 years i and that is a bold face lie because he was arrested in 2008 for drug use. I would take what ever Bobby says about anything with a grain of salt. Once again, I know Whitney was no angel but some of the things in the movie were one sided.
Her family didn't cooperate, didn't want her songs played and complained when they didn't get an advance viewing. Who's failt is that if everything didn't get into the movie ? | |
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The Houstons have done some shady things since Whitney's passing I am not going to deny that. However, if Angela was a real friend of Whitney's she would have respected her family's wishes. The family did not approve of this movie way before it was even directed and a script was even written. People keep insisting that Whitney was no "angel" but that is not the issue. The issue is bio movies should have family involvement and should cover as much about the person as possible and not just ONE aspect about the person. It is clear the movie had an agenda and that agenda was to exploit and sensationalize Whitney's relationship with Bobby and drug problems. Whitney was MORE than that and there were a lot of positiive things about her and her life besides that.
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Whitney Houston's Family Slams Lifetime, Angela Bassett Over Unauthorized Biopic"If you watch this movie, watch it knowing that Lifetime is notorious for making bad biopics of deceased celebrities and brace yourself for the worst," family says in statement
| January 18, 2015 (Rolling Stone) While Lifetime's Whitney Houston biopic was packed with many hell-to-the-yes moments, not everyone was happy to see a skewed version of the singer's life story on the small screen. Perhaps no one was more upset aboutWhitney than Houston's own family, who shared a long statement criticizing the unauthorized biopic on the singer's official site.
Read the entirety of the Houston family's statement below: "My daughter came home from high school yesterday and shared with me inquiries she had endured from her peers and teachers about the upcoming TV movie about her aunt Whitney. She was somewhat exasperated and said she did not get it – that a woman who claimed to be her aunt's friend would direct a movie that seems so unloving towards her Aunt, and how it could affect her cousin Krissi. I share with you the thoughts I shared with my daughter yesterday – that there is often a fine line that separates elevation and degradation in the industry. What lifts up one person in the headlines may in fact destroy another. I don't think it ever entered their minds that they were assaulting the legacy of another individual; they just want the job or the opportunity to shine. But to do so in such an incredible way, to go after someone who cannot correct what you get wrong, someone who – like so many people, and especially women – struggled to hold up their humanity and live with dignity despite their personal challenges, is wrong. It is easy to turn a blind eye to other people if you're not careful. But the needs of Whitney's family matter. We have dealt with her every emotion from the day she was born until the day she died, which gives us absolute position and absolute authority as a family to feel the way we do about her legacy. We matter. We're still here. Why wasn't there a call to myself, Gary, Cissy or even her daughter? Why deny selected members of the family an advanced copy of the film? As we once again enter a season of bereavement and the strategic timing so close to the anniversary of Whitney's death, this is a disappointment that any of us who loved her could do without. This creative pursuit at the expense of the integrity of such an iconic woman, who is voiceless today, reeks of condemnation and deceit. It reeks of enslavement to an industry that will likely do the same to you one day. As my grandmother used to say, 'Keep living.' I say this to all Whitney's family, friends and fan base: If you watch this movie, watch it knowing that Lifetime is notorious for making bad biopics of deceased celebrities and brace yourself for the worst. You should not be surprised that someone decided to do a made for TV biopic. And, I might add, without the family's blessing and despite her mother’s request to not do this movie. It happens every day. But misrepresenting the term friendship to advance an agenda is not only disrespectful and dishonest but a slap in the face to her true and loyal friends. You should expect people will always rise to the occasion for prominence and profit – not love, respect or honor. I question the morality of the making of this because of the lack of experience knowing Whitney's life. Never would Whitney allow her story to be told by an inexperienced team and how naive of anyone to think otherwise, unless you're caught up in illusions of grandeur that you can just do anything and people will accept it. This made for TV movie is certainly not a trailer to Whitney's life story. God gave us a gift in Whitney and she gave us her best, despite what stories are told. We will wear a breastplate of armor for Whitney and that's what friends are for. In the spirit of Whitney's 'I Go To The Rock': 'On Christ the solid rock I stand… all other ground is sinking sand.' Let's just be peaceful in all of this. Truth is violated by silence just as much as by a lie." | |
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Yeah let's make it all about Pat-- like her reality show a hot minute after Whitney was in the ground. This is all about her not being to get a movie out first. Have a seat | |
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here's a perfect example of what I've been alluding to about Whitney's crafted image and how it's still being projected today
I recorded the special Whitney Houston Beyond The Headlines, and it's mentioned how Clive Davis did not want to promote Whitney as a "Black Singer, as R&B, as soul" and how he promoted her as a "Pop" singer for the world and how he shaped her image 2 years before releasing her debut album
the special indiated Whitney's first single was GREATEST LOVE OF ALL released at the beginning of 1986, then showed footage of her video HOW WILL I KNOW
but THAT'S not right....
her first major single release from her debut album was YOU GIVE GOOD LOVE released during the spring of 1985, which drew R&B following that set teh stage for her to achieve popular success w/her latter singles
stunts like that is what led to the backlash 4 years later at the SOUL TRAIN MUSIC AWARDS because that audience who set the stage felt slighted, but had to act in defense for the criticism it uttered because ultimately, pop stature is held in higher esteem than just allowing the artist to stand on his/her own merit.....
what happened with Whitney by 1989 highlights the beginning stages of how the pop music landscape, the pop ascension began to eliminate authenticity
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I thought the movie was weak with a few LMAO moments that I don't think were meant to be funny. The movie did make me want to revisit a couple of Bobby's albums though. Also the title should had been called "Bobby & Whitney: The Love Affair" or something along those lines. I love Angela Bassett but she and Whitney weren't close friends, they only met and acquainted while they were working on "Waiting to Exhale"..so how does that qualify her to make a movie on the woman's marriage based on assumptions???? I hardly believe that if Whitney was alive that she would had been pleased with this project. And no I don't side with the Houston family at all b/c Whitney wasn't even lukewarm in the ground yet before they signed up for some dumbass reality show. I give the movie 1 star out of 5. I also watched the interview with Bobby Brown and although I'm glad that he's finally had a chance to tell his side, at the same time, I feel like he could have passed on the interview.
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Thanks boo, nice insight! | |
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