Just got the hard CD copy, hell yeah!

Man, am I loving Disc 2--Three songs in and I'm in music heaven. This is what I was hoping for... First Ya Gotta Shake The Gate, Roller Rink, Jolene, You Can't Unring The Bell, Pole Power, Benadette, Meow Meow...

[Edited 12/28/14 19:45pm]

HardcoreJollies said:

Just got the hard CD copy, hell yeah!

Mine arrived today! Packaging is kind of cheap looking, but, there's a booklet, so, YAY!

djThunderfunk said:

HardcoreJollies said:

Just got the hard CD copy, hell yeah!

Mine arrived today! Packaging is kind of cheap looking, but, there's a booklet, so, YAY!

Agreed would have been nicer maybe as a trifold digipack, with some of the psychedelic ramblings of past liner notes. I would have even paid extra for nicer packaging. How cool would it have been for them to serve up some new trippy funklore tales for the new millennium? What a missed opportunity. Maybe they could have even put a bonus chapter or story not in Clinton's new book in the CD notes. How ironic that the longest P-Funk release ever has perhaps the least amount of art and stories to look at during the 3 1/2 hours of jammies?

And to All, a Supremely Funky New Year!

HardcoreJollies said:

HardcoreJollies said:

Per the liner notes, 5 tracks are "Taken from the original motion picture, Dope Dogs The Movie".

what?!?!

There was no mention of a Dope Dogs The Movie in the book. Anybody know the story on this?

djThunderfunk said:

Per the liner notes, 5 tracks are "Taken from the original motion picture, Dope Dogs The Movie".

what?!?!

There was no mention of a Dope Dogs The Movie in the book. Anybody know the story on this?

I saw that, too, when I was reading the liner notes. I found a reference that might be to "Dope Dogs: The Movie" in this interview with George Clinton in Culture Magazine from 2012: https://www.google.com/ur...Los2MxqSVA

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So getting back to the music, what have you been working on in the studio?

Oh, we have so much stuff that’s getting ready to come out. ’Cause we putting out these apps and we putting our new stuff in there too. We got Parliament stuff, Funkadelic and then each member of the band got all kinds of shit. We putting out loads of shit. We got gangs of Parliament and Funkadelic stuff that I’ve [been] working on for the past two or three years, but it’s taken me this long to actually be able to settle down and start putting it together as an album.



I’m sure that is welcome news to P-Funk fans everywhere.

And we got this cartoon we’ve been working on called Dope Dogs.



You’re making a cartoon called Dope Dogs?



[Like our song] “U.S. Customs Coast Guard Dope Dog.” And that’s Funkadelic. We did an album on ’em already, but the cartoon is gonna be an Adult Swim-type thing. It’s a lot of dogs tellin‘ their stories.



Speaking of music-based animation, have you seen the show Metalocalypse?



Yeah! That’s Titmouse [the production company that makes Metalocalypse].



Damn, you know everybody.

I worked with those guys on Dope Dogs! When I first got started I did the first dog with them. It’s called Scotty. Yeah, they are so good.

[Edited 12/29/14 23:19pm]

Did not realize until finally getting the CD notes that Sly Stone is really all over this thing. Not sure if that is a good thing or not at this point, but interesting nonetheless. Also notice all the P-Funk alum mentioned in the special thanks. Can't help but wonder why more of them don't appear on this sprawling set, could it only be money? Maybe they just did not want to travel to Tallahassee on their own dime? Too bad but glad there are as many alum appearances as there are on the set anyway. Bedrosian is like the MVP of the project.

HardcoreJollies said:

mrwiggles said:

HardcoreJollies said:

Did not realize until finally getting the CD notes that Sly Stone is really all over this thing. Not sure if that is a good thing or not at this point, but interesting nonetheless. Also notice all the P-Funk alum mentioned in the special thanks. Can't help but wonder why more of them don't appear on this sprawling set, could it only be money? Maybe they just did not want to travel to Tallahassee on their own dime? Too bad but glad there are as many alum appearances as there are on the set anyway. Bedrosian is like the MVP of the project.

I'm convinced it's a good thing. I love the way he's coloring In da Kar on synths. His daughter Novena Carmel is prominent in the mix too as writer. Word is there's plenty of uncredited musicians on the set too. I know I said earlier the physical product was a cheap presentation. Then I thought about it. What other black act from the 1970's is financing the recording and distribution of a 3 disc set?

Other than Prince.......no one.

I don't think Novena Carmel actually wrote anything; those are really Sly Stone's credits. She apparently manages his business, like Grace Cook for Eddie Hazel.

modified said:

I believe Novena Carmel is Sly's daughter.

SoulAlive said:

HuMpThAnG said:

gotta feelin a whole lot of hip-hop is on this disc

That's what I don't want to hear Hip hop has already taken over modern R&B.The legendary funksters need to stay true to the FUNK.Hey,I'm beginning to sound like Vainandy,lol.

LOL!!! ^^^

novabrkr said:

I believe Novena Carmel is Sly's daughter.

Is she the one who appeared on the Small Talk album cover in 1974? If so, cool that she turned out musical. Shame it looks like Prince will not produce any offspring, and that maybe he is unable to.

HardcoreJollies said:

novabrkr said:

I believe Novena Carmel is Sly's daughter.

Is she the one who appeared on the Small Talk album cover in 1974? If so, cool that she turned out musical. Shame it looks like Prince will not produce any offspring, and that maybe he is unable to.

That's Sly's son, Sylvester Jr.

"I was sitting in the tittybar, sucking my thumb."

Priceless.

Embrace said:

"I was sitting in the tittybar, sucking my thumb."

Priceless.

In a metaphorical way, that's also how I feel listening to this album.

Priceless

HardcoreJollies said:

novabrkr said:

I believe Novena Carmel is Sly's daughter.

Is she the one who appeared on the Small Talk album cover in 1974? If so, cool that she turned out musical. Shame it looks like Prince will not produce any offspring, and that maybe he is unable to.

Another orger already answered the first question.

While it seems to be the case that Novena is indeed musical, she has his own band called "BabyStone", I think the stuff on this 3CD set credited to her is just stuff by Sly himself. I think giving the credit to a family member is quite common for legal reasons. I know that at least in many European countries a lot of people that have been convicted of crimes aren't really allowed to earn any more money than the bare minimum and the rest they'll have to give away as compensations to the people they've might have harmed etc. This is just speculation on my part, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the reason why he's credited his daughter for the songs.

Him being on this record is kinda big though, Sly was never officially a part of the P-Funk collective, but he's got so much stuff on this new set that it would not be a stretch to call him a "member of Funkadelic".

mrwiggles said:

modified said:

I don't think Novena Carmel actually wrote anything; those are really Sly Stone's credits. She apparently manages his business, like Grace Cook for Eddie Hazel.

Interesting info for sure. I agree about Danny Bedrosian being the all star of the record. PF has always fielded an incredible array of keys talent. Bernie, Amp, Razor, Junie. Even second stringers like Gary Hudge and Jerome Rogers were no joke. Bedrosian continues the legacy, a total bad azz with classical grounding.

I love the Bedrosian stuff too.

He seems to be responsible for writing many of the bios on GC's site as well, so seems to take being a part of the collective seriously. I get the impression that he's always wanted to work with Clinton and has really put time into studying Bernie Worrell's style.

Shame the album isn't a little bit more focused. This way so many people will just complain about the rappers and tend to overlook the great keyboard, guitar and bass work that's there in abundance. You just need to pay attention to it.

novabrkr said:

... in many European countries ... Sly was never officially a part of the P-Funk collective, but he's got so much stuff on this new set that it would not be a stretch to call him a "member of Funkadelic" ...

Here is Novena Carmel on a panel with GC, Bootsy + Bernie in March 2013:

https://www.youtube.com/w...2s5J2uYNpg

https://www.youtube.com/w...80dyBVY8Q0

Sly + GC were crack buddies since the last Funkadelic albums, so it is very fitting that he is a key Funkadelic member in this project - Fu**ed Up following Sly's solo track...

Novena Carmel taking his credits is exactly the same situation as Grace Cook, Eddie Hazel's mother, taking the credits for her son when he was a junkie/in jail.

They are taking care of him. It's a good p-funk tradition.

I love the Bedrosian stuff too ... Shame the album isn't a little bit more focused ...

I am curious/looking forward to the Parliament album, that is supposed to follow this one very soon. This Funkadelic album feels like wrapping up 33 years unfinished business and setting up the next phase. A reboot like America Eats Its Young.

btw, this is also Novena Carmel:

https://www.youtube.com/w...C31wYKZ-5U

[Edited 1/1/15 5:09am]

novabrkr said:

Nope, will do. I feel the guy's pretty contented about having gotten to work with George though.

I mean, I wouldn't be eager to leave myself.

[Edited 1/1/15 6:37am]

novabrkr said:

Nope, will do. I feel the guy's pretty contented about having gotten to work with George though.

I don't think he is going anywhere. There are so many next-generation p-funk side projects going on with constantly changing line-ups, often including "original" members.

Here is a full concert with Garrett Shider and I think also Rico Lewis, another GC grandson (?):

https://www.youtube.com/w...zdL0bXbElU

A lot of these musicians will eventually show up on the mothership - they're not all equally great to be honest, but GC could use a new horn section for example...

modified said:

mrwiggles said:

mrwiggles said:

Thanks for that link. I've been wanting to peep Rico's thang for some time but somn always comes up. Within the P-Funk itself, there are several other "mini" camps all doing there own thangs putting out individual projects. Clip/420/Drugs, Ligedelic/Naked Funk, Children of Production, Danny's Boz Funk crew, and GC/TreyLewd which seems to be where most of the new album comes from. [Edited 1/2/15 7:36am]

Anybody wanting that old Funkadelic vibe should check out 420 Funk Mob & Drugs. That's some fonk that'll take you back to the early 70's for sure!

I also dig me some Sativa & Children Of Production when I'm in the mood for some of that next generation style P-Funk...

mrwiggles said:

As for the horns Greg Boyer is sorely missed but Bennie and lil Greg are still handling their bizzness ... I hope they appear on the Parliament album.

I hope so too. They were brilliant in the (early) 1990s. Yes, Greg Boyer is sorely missed.

But on videos of recent shows they look bored and tired/unhealthy. Understandable probably, but I also wonder how motivated/involved they still are.

I've listened to this for a month now -- IMHO hands down best release of the year.

I don't find it unfocused.

I am not annoyed by the rapping.

I love the new editions to the p-funk family.

I love how George has orchestrated this masterpiece.

I love Sly's contribution throughout -- and am so happy that he's been salvaged.

I just love this through and through!