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Reply #30 posted 11/25/14 3:51am

Thibaut

listening now, first disc sounds quite good to these ears with the exception of the second song

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Reply #31 posted 11/25/14 10:47am

HuMpThAnG

SoulAlive said:

HuMpThAnG said:

gotta feelin a whole lot of hip-hop is on this disc confused

That's what I don't want to hear confused Hip hop has already taken over modern R&B.The legendary funksters need to stay true to the FUNK.Hey,I'm beginning to sound like Vainandy,lol.

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Reply #32 posted 11/25/14 11:02am

SoulAlive

Thibaut said:

listening now, first disc sounds quite good to these ears with the exception of the second song

yeah,that second song is a hip-hop track with rappers barf don't care for that one

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Reply #33 posted 11/25/14 12:08pm

Thibaut

I love rap but no not this KIND of rap biggrin

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Reply #34 posted 11/25/14 12:38pm

mrwiggles

Yeah, I can do without some of the raps but the rock songs are out to lunch with lunchmeat. GC has got this gritty kind of Daft Punk thang going on some of the tracks that's adventurous as hell.
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Reply #35 posted 11/25/14 2:18pm

Thibaut

the album is really quite experimental even for p funk

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Reply #36 posted 11/26/14 11:03am

Trickology

Thibaut said:

the album is really quite experimental even for p funk

Listening right now and the first track I hear are horns, I thought Funkadelic didn't use horns, i can't remember one Funkadelic track w/ horns, it was part of hip hop code.

I don't know how I feel about a trap funkadelic track, I'm going to have to hear George explain the direction of some of these tracks and what market he is trying to attach.

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Reply #37 posted 11/26/14 11:12am

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Trickology said:

Thibaut said:

the album is really quite experimental even for p funk

Listening right now and the first track I hear are horns, I thought Funkadelic didn't use horns, i can't remember one Funkadelic track w/ horns, it was part of hip hop code.

I don't know how I feel about a trap funkadelic track, I'm going to have to hear George explain the direction of some of these tracks and what market he is trying to attach.

I need this cd..............yesterday. When is the actual cd dropping?

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Reply #38 posted 11/26/14 12:49pm

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Trickology said:



Thibaut said:


the album is really quite experimental even for p funk




Listening right now and the first track I hear are horns, I thought Funkadelic didn't use horns, i can't remember one Funkadelic track w/ horns, it was part of hip hop code.



I don't know how I feel about a trap funkadelic track, I'm going to have to hear George explain the direction of some of these tracks and what market he is trying to attach.




Well that's just not entirely true. Although Funkadelic was a guitar based band from time to time they did incorporate horns. Philmore, Pussy and Wake Up from America Eats It's Young all had horns. As did Back In Our Minds from Maggot Brain, and Sly's Funk Gets Stronger from Electric Spanking of War Babies.

This ain't the Funkadelic we grew up with but I'll be dammed if it ain't still Funkadelic. Same nasty attitude but incorporating the musical flavors of 2014.

This record may be too long. But scaled down to the best funk rock tracks it becomes a Funk Fest all the way. Hard copy of the record is due Dec 1.

And can I say that Yesterdejavu is like they were channelling straight Cream.
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Reply #39 posted 11/27/14 5:54am

steakfinger

I just picked this up. WOW

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Reply #40 posted 11/27/14 7:16am

mrwiggles

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I just picked this up. WOW





He did the title track with Soul Clap over in Europe. I put it on with some good headphones last night and got blown away.
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Reply #41 posted 11/27/14 7:32am

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mrwiggles said:

steakfinger said:

I just picked this up. WOW

He did the title track with Soul Clap over in Europe. I put it on with some good headphones last night and got blown away.

U're killing me right now. sad

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Reply #42 posted 11/27/14 7:34am

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Graycap23 said:

Trickology said:

Listening right now and the first track I hear are horns, I thought Funkadelic didn't use horns, i can't remember one Funkadelic track w/ horns, it was part of hip hop code.

I don't know how I feel about a trap funkadelic track, I'm going to have to hear George explain the direction of some of these tracks and what market he is trying to attach.

I need this cd..............yesterday. When is the actual cd dropping?

Knowing your selection of music, you don't need this on CD, you need a edited cd, so you don't hear how much stuff you don't want to hear. The rappers have just bumrushed the mothership studio, the fans aren't going to be happy listening to this who have been waiting. They could sell a edited version

Let me give you an example of the don't's on this, Sly on autotune........a pseudo sequel to Atomic Dog called "nuclear dog pt.II" w/ one of the most subpar rhyme that would make TC Ellis and Tony M say "get this guy outta here" I'm just getting warmed up at the number of offenses on this record. Somewhere Eddie Hazel is in the heavens screaming "I didn't co-sign this! This isn't the house I helped build! I need to go back there now, is there anyway I can go back, God!!?!?" lol

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Reply #43 posted 11/27/14 7:37am

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Trickology said:

Graycap23 said:

I need this cd..............yesterday. When is the actual cd dropping?

Knowing your selection of music, you don't need this on CD, you need a edited cd, so you don't hear how much stuff you don't want to hear. The rappers have just bumrushed the mothership studio, the fans aren't going to be happy listening to this who have been waiting. They could sell a edited version

Let me give you an example of the don't's on this, Sly on autotune........a pseudo sequel to Atomic Dog called "nuclear dog pt.II" w/ one of the most subpar rhyme that would make TC Ellis and Tony M say "get this guy outta here" I'm just getting warmed up at the number of offenses on this record. Somewhere Eddie Hazel is in the heavens screaming "I didn't co-sign this! This isn't the house I helped build! I need to go back there now, is there anyway I can go back, God!!?!?" lol

Damn.......rap doesn't move me, but I still need this joint. Gotta have the funk......even if it's sprinkled w Rap.

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Reply #44 posted 11/27/14 8:01am

Trickology

Graycap23 said:

Trickology said:

Knowing your selection of music, you don't need this on CD, you need a edited cd, so you don't hear how much stuff you don't want to hear. The rappers have just bumrushed the mothership studio, the fans aren't going to be happy listening to this who have been waiting. They could sell a edited version

Let me give you an example of the don't's on this, Sly on autotune........a pseudo sequel to Atomic Dog called "nuclear dog pt.II" w/ one of the most subpar rhyme that would make TC Ellis and Tony M say "get this guy outta here" I'm just getting warmed up at the number of offenses on this record. Somewhere Eddie Hazel is in the heavens screaming "I didn't co-sign this! This isn't the house I helped build! I need to go back there now, is there anyway I can go back, God!!?!?" lol

Damn.......rap doesn't move me, but I still need this joint. Gotta have the funk......even if it's sprinkled w Rap.

Trust me, YOU never want to hear these contributions, you will shout at the speakers "Shut the fuck up, I paid money for the opposite of this!!"

Someone make a CDR w/ out the laptop produced loop tracks. A lot of this sounds like George left the backdoor of the studio opened & some people wandered in and said "Oh shit, they are recording, lemme see what I can do On THIS & blow the eff up" lol

And let me just end the post on this, I was so shocked at the audacity of stamping this "Funkadelic" I haven't heard Disc 3 yet, i'm going to wait a whole day before I do. I need some time to decompress. Instead I'm re-listening to th George Clinton subliminal dissing/ shaming Disco-Funkadelic "Who's a Funkadelic?" & enjoying this more. cool lol

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Reply #45 posted 11/27/14 8:11am

Trickology

Thibaut said:

listening now, first disc sounds quite good to these ears with the exception of the second song

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It is amazing how fast this slides in quality right? They just let everyone in the studio who could rhyme cat to bat. Nuclear Dog Pt. II, ahhhh. no lol

I feel so bad for someone not on the internet who is going to see this in the record store, get excited and then as Disc 1 starts to end, the rapping starts, George fades into the background and the recording artists who aren't in the same league get coverage.

I want to see what they passed on over the years before the mc's started showing up.

Thank god, this did not come out in cassette era, you would be fast-forwarding. Someday these bands are going to realize "Oh wait a minute, people REALLY don't care if rappers are on it"

Jerome Brailey did the same thing, all funk oriented acts all have succumbed to rappers. Even Slave had a rapper eek

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Reply #46 posted 11/27/14 10:47am

mrwiggles

Muggs will be lining up on both sides of the proverbial "Gate"over this release. Let the shaking begin indeed. It seems either you will be totally down with the direction of this music or totally not.
It seems more a vehicle for his younguns. The next generation. Mike Hampton, Clip Payne are barely on the record. I don't think Clip is even on it.
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Reply #47 posted 11/27/14 11:04am

Trickology

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Muggs will be lining up on both sides of the proverbial "Gate"over this release. Let the shaking begin indeed. It seems either you will be totally down with the direction of this music or totally not. It seems more a vehicle for his younguns. The next generation. Mike Hampton, Clip Payne are barely on the record. I don't think Clip is even on it.

I will tell you something, it did motivate me to check out the other offshoots like Enema squad and so forth. I bet you Bernie is shaking his head listening to this. confused

You are right, so many other musicians were not included in this from the alumni.

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Reply #48 posted 11/27/14 11:28pm

novabrkr

Listening to it now. There are some standout tracks and they're very close to the real deal, but sure, this release has many, many moments that I don't understand why they've thought it would be a good thing to let the public hear them.

I suppose George thought that if he put it out as "Funkadelic" he'd get a certain amount of die-hards to purchase every track that he releases under the name. Many of the pieces that sound nothing like Funkadelic did go on for too long, for that manner. Just having some EDM-ish backing track go on for nearly ten minutes and littering it with recognizeable chants and phrases from the old records doesn't do it for me. The classic P-Funk tracks were on many occasions repetitive, but they knew how to break / mask the repetition into something that didn't work against the pieces.

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Reply #49 posted 11/28/14 4:10am

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I felt the same about How Late Do U Have 2B B4 U R Absent: ups and downs. Comparing the two (I haven't heared the new one yet) which would you think is the better album?
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Reply #50 posted 11/28/14 10:20am

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The CD set is now delayed until Dec 23rd sad

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Reply #51 posted 11/28/14 10:45am

babynoz

HuMpThAnG said:

gotta feelin a whole lot of hip-hop is on this disc confused

not trying to be a spoil sport



You better be wrong... sad



oopsie...just read the rest of the thread...it's breaking my heart. disbelief

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Reply #52 posted 11/28/14 12:08pm

novabrkr

I can't hear "the one" on too many of these tracks. It's just some sort of an added percussive sample on a few tracks, but not a part of the rest of the composition. Too many of these cuts don't really groove. There's a decent amount of groove present on the vocals and some of the synth stuff has it going on too, but I'm really not feeling the drum programming.

Putting out a 3CD set is a bit silly considering there's barely one CD's worth of decent material here. I'm not trying to be too negative, but yeah, it's a silly release on the whole. Judged by the recent live performances I thought the new guys in the band were interested in bringing a lot of the old P-funk vibe back. Maybe these tracks rely more on other people's work.

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Reply #53 posted 11/28/14 2:37pm

babynoz

I'm wondering if George and Sly simply need money? George now owns pretty much none of his work and neither does Sly last I heard.

So perhaps they have to play the game by other people's rules to get paid now?

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Reply #54 posted 11/28/14 6:09pm

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Reply #55 posted 11/28/14 6:14pm

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  • I'm not surprised by the direction George took with this album. In some of his recent interviews over the past months he alluded to this kind of music. He referred to funk as anything that makes your booty shake and spoke about what the younger generation likes to listen to and how they like to record new music.

  • Sly using autotune is also no surprise as he used it in his Unsung episode. Doesn't make it any less disappointing though.

  • There are a number of songs I do like - probably an album's worth. I do feel the autotune and rapping ruined a number of songs that had potential.

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Reply #56 posted 11/28/14 10:04pm

novabrkr

babynoz said:

I'm wondering if George and Sly simply need money? George now owns pretty much none of his work and neither does Sly last I heard.

So perhaps they have to play the game by other people's rules to get paid now?


George probably needs money. Otherwise he wouldn't have been touring like crazy recently (it's crazy for someone of his age and the poor health he's been in).

However, this record is released by some small label / distributor. I doubt they've even financed the recording of most of the tracks. I don't think anyone is expecting this record to generate a lot of money.

Sly? I don't know about him. He's said to have been broke for ages. I think George wanted to have him on the record due to respect and they still seem to be friends.

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Reply #57 posted 11/28/14 11:45pm

novabrkr

Shit, I just realized there are two tracks included here from his previous record. lol

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Reply #58 posted 11/29/14 7:56am

Trickology

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I can't hear "the one" on too many of these tracks. It's just some sort of an added percussive sample on a few tracks, but not a part of the rest of the composition. Too many of these cuts don't really groove. There's a decent amount of groove present on the vocals and some of the synth stuff has it going on too, but I'm really not feeling the drum programming.

Putting out a 3CD set is a bit silly considering there's barely one CD's worth of decent material here. I'm not trying to be too negative, but yeah, it's a silly release on the whole. Judged by the recent live performances I thought the new guys in the band were interested in bringing a lot of the old P-funk vibe back. Maybe these tracks rely more on other people's work.

I bet the real problem is, George doesn't have anyone who has a outspoken scrutinizing ear at how to produce something that the Funkadelic audience will resonant w/. You need that producer that is a bit of a asshole to look at someone and say "Yea, we don't need a rap on this, could you step out of the booth" "Okay, you w/ the laptop doing that loop, that isn't working, shut that off. I'm going to have to call Dennis Chambers" lol "Let's recap, so far nothing here is salvageable, I like these lyrics, there's no guitar riffs. George, I don't think getting Chief Keef is going to be a good guest for Funkadelic, let's go w/ Andre 3000 instead, he can sing background on this.

If PFunk had that, they would have a chance for their best album in years. But maybe being on stage for so many hours in a very loose setting would be hard to take instructions from someone outside of P-Funk mothership. I bet you Dam Funk is silent as a mf on this one after he heard it. That guy is a little outspoken on social media. lol

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Reply #59 posted 11/29/14 8:44am

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More discs tha P did this year, it must be a masterpiece after so many years....!!!

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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