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Snubbed: Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, & Sade Shut Out Of 2015 ‘Rock & Roll Hall of Fame’ Nominations

Dolly Parton, Bon Jovi, and More Join List of Snubbed, Yet Eligible Acts

janet jackson sade thatgrapejuice Snubbed:  Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, & Sade Shut Out Of 2015 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Nominations

‘What have you done for me lately?’ takes on new meaning after reports have surfaced that Grammy-winning pop icon Janet Jackson has been snubbed, yet again, from induction into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

With a four decade career that boasts over 100 million records sold and countless industry awards lining her shelves, Jackson reigns supreme as the second most decorated female artist of all time (second only to Whitney Houston -who was also shut out). Apparently her efforts, which span across music and film, have yet to be enough to impress the academy who votes and helps decide who will be inducted into the prestigious institution.

But, it looks like she’s not the only one…


Ask Whitney Houston who boasts nearly 200 million sold, immeasurable influence, and still reigns as the most decorated female in music history alongside our girl Sade who is the top selling U.K. female act in history. They too – despite enjoying careers that were 25 years+, have been omitted from induction.

For the third year in a row, fans are able to vote for who gets inducted. Despite Jackson, Houston, and Sade’s names being unlisted, look below to find out who you can vote for to join the historic ranks in April 2015.

Report via Rolling Stone:

The nominations for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s Class of 2015 are in, and the list includes Green Day, Nine Inch Nails, N.W.A, the Smiths, Lou Reed and Sting. The rest of this year’s hopefuls are the Paul Butterfield Blues Band, Kraftwerk, Chic, Joan Jett & the Blackhearts, the Marvelettes, the Spinners, Stevie Ray Vaughan, War and Bill Withers. The top vote-getters will be announced toward the end of the year and inducted on April 18th, 2015.”



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Reply #1 posted 10/09/14 3:57pm

Qazz

Teehee.
"Janet Jackson is like an 80s sitcom that's been off the air for over 25 years; you see a rerun and realize it wasn't that great..."
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Reply #2 posted 10/09/14 6:45pm

SoulAlive

I totally 'get' why Sade is so popular and well-liked,but....

does she really deserve to be in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame? hmmm I can name many artists who deserve it more.

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Reply #3 posted 10/09/14 7:02pm

SoulAlive

and why do they keep nominating Chic and then snubbing them everytime? confuse Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edward's sound was VERY influential and even rock artists were trying to get that sound (Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust",for example).Chic should get in with no problem!

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Reply #4 posted 10/10/14 5:30am

Musicslave

SoulAlive said:

and why do they keep nominating Chic and then snubbing them everytime? confuse Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edward's sound was VERY influential and even rock artists were trying to get that sound (Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust",for example).Chic should get in with no problem!

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Not surprised about Janet, Whitney or Sade. But like yourself, it makes no sense to me for them to keep nominating a band and not eventually vote them in. HOWEVER, I think with the obvious relevance of the band's sound and influence being heard over the past year, I think they just may get in this year. We'll see...

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Reply #5 posted 10/10/14 6:40am

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The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a joke. Green Day? Really? What the hell have they done? Why not Living Colour or hell Lenny Kravitz? Bad Brains?

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Reply #6 posted 10/10/14 8:34am

SoulAlive

Musicslave said:



SoulAlive said:


and why do they keep nominating Chic and then snubbing them everytime? confuse Nile Rodgers and Bernard Edward's sound was VERY influential and even rock artists were trying to get that sound (Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust",for example).Chic should get in with no problem!



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Not surprised about Janet, Whitney or Sade. But like yourself, it makes no sense to me for them to keep nominating a band and not eventually vote them in. HOWEVER, I think with the obvious relevance of the band's sound and influence being heard over the past year, I think they just may get in this year. We'll see...




I hope so wink
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Reply #7 posted 10/10/14 8:35am

pzlyprk

Seriously wish journalists and fans would learn that Sade is a BAND who's lead singer is Sade Adu. The references should be "they" or "them", not "she" or "her". Can't stand that Matthewman, Hale and Denman get slighted almost every time Sade is mentioned. Janet's a solo artist (albeit, she wouldn't have lasted without Flyte Tyme). Whitney's a solo artist. Sade is not a solo artist. It's like saying "he", when mentioning Van Halen. Ok, off my soapbox.

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Reply #8 posted 10/10/14 8:36am

Graycap23

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Sade? Really?

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #9 posted 10/10/14 1:37pm

UncleJam

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WAR nod

Make it so, Number One...
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Reply #10 posted 10/10/14 1:49pm

MickyDolenz

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Since War is 2 different groups now (the official one and the Lowrider Band), who would show up? razz

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #11 posted 10/10/14 1:52pm

UncleJam

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Hopefully that sparks the "reunion". If not, I'm with the Lowrider Band...Lonnie should be ashamed of himself.

Make it so, Number One...
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Reply #12 posted 10/10/14 4:52pm

SoulAlive

pzlyprk said:

Seriously wish journalists and fans would learn that Sade is a BAND who's lead singer is Sade Adu. The references should be "they" or "them", not "she" or "her". Can't stand that Matthewman, Hale and Denman get slighted almost every time Sade is mentioned. Janet's a solo artist (albeit, she wouldn't have lasted without Flyte Tyme). Whitney's a solo artist. Sade is not a solo artist. It's like saying "he", when mentioning Van Halen. Ok, off my soapbox.



Ok,but even so....do you think that Sade (the entire band) deserves to be inducted?
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Reply #13 posted 10/10/14 8:50pm

SoulAlive

I'm happy to see that Bill Withers is on the list.I hope he makes it.

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Reply #14 posted 10/11/14 2:02am

Ellie

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Chic totally need to get in this year. 10 nominations now. I saw Nile Rodgers in concert this week and it was just phenomenal.

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Reply #15 posted 10/11/14 3:44pm

lowkey

they finally inducted donna summer because she passed away.this thing is not very female friendly, and especially black females.what other solo black female artists arein besides aretha and donna? they are putting rappers in there now who released a couple albums ahead of well deserving iconic artists with decades of longevity and obvious influence.

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Reply #16 posted 10/11/14 4:08pm

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lowkey said:

this thing is not very female friendly

It's rock n' roll, and rock has always been mostly male oriented, both performers and audience. The founders that are usually mentioned are male like Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, Bo Diddley, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Buddy Holly, etc. Psychedelic, hard rock, progressive rock, heavy metal, arena rock, glam rock, hair metal, etc. are all mainly male. The British invasion acts tended to be male too. When there was AOR stations, there were very few female acts played. So of course there's going to be more male acts inducted than female.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #17 posted 10/11/14 4:29pm

lowkey

MickyDolenz said:

lowkey said:

this thing is not very female friendly

It's rock n' roll, and rock has always been mostly male oriented, both performers and audience. The founders that are usually mentioned are male like Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, Bo Diddley, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Buddy Holly, etc. Psychedelic, hard rock, progressive rock, heavy metal, arena rock, glam rock, hair metal, etc. are all mainly male. The British invasion acts tended to be male too. When there was AOR stations, there were very few female acts played. So of course there's going to be more male acts inducted than female.

they are very inconsistant though, i think there are more pop oriented acts in there than hard rock.most of the motown roster is in the hall and i'd hardly call any of them rock.donna summer and chic were clearly disco ,which was considered anti rock.james brown and aretha franklin were the queen and king of soul.tina turner was more of a rock artist in her solo career, yet she was inducted as part of ike and tina but not solo.it just seems like they are allover the place when it comes to who gets nominated and inducted. where the hell is earth,wind and fire, how can anartists like martha reeves be nominated but not a solo diana ross or chaka? there dont seem to be any structure,guidelines or criteria in place.

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Reply #18 posted 10/11/14 4:41pm

MickyDolenz

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lowkey said:

there dont seem to be any structure, guidelines or criteria in place.

It's whoever the voters want to put in it, like a country club or fraternity. It has nothing to do with sales or popularity. The hall is an Rolling Stone magazine offshoot. Jann Wenner was inducted himself, so that should tell you what it's about. lol

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You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #19 posted 10/11/14 7:38pm

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I am a confirmed, since-the-beginning, "hard-core" Sade fan..

for the group's career

(like this, pzlyprk??)

nothing in their stellar, brillian career really screams "rock n roll".

in fact - Sade (the group) & Sade (the singer) should have their own personal Hall of Fame,

to be honest about it..

though most of (the group) Sade's music has elements of & bites off of jazz.. they are not a "jazz group" in the traditional, real sense of that phrase. before rock n roll became popular in the mid-50s, you know there were the "pop standards" with singers like Sinatra, Bing Crosby, etc.. then all the big bands, the real jazz musicians (& their music) as well as classical music. "rock n roll" is basically (or WAS, basically?) a convenient catch-all phrase to fit what Chuck Berry et al started doing back then. rock n roll today seems to include any type of popular music, including groups you normally don't associate with "rock n roll". groups like CAMEO..

I wouldn't imagine the other (male) members of Sade would be too put off - if at all - that people associate their band with their exquisite lead singer. those dudes are great musicians & they are still gettin' paid. they know - & probably would agree - that Ms. Adu deserves all the attention she gets and has gotten.

per the others mentioned (& summarily dissed from the Hall this time):

Janet Jackson shouldn't be in there. at her peak she was a pop music/pop culture icon whose biggest hit woud be "you don't stand another chance".. if Jimmy & Terry hadn't gotten stuck in the snow

Whitney could get in, maybe should get in.. just from the power, skill & beauty of her voice

(I personally didn't like most of her music - it was all too "calculated pop syrup crap" for me)

the RRHoF is definitely a "good ol' (white) boys' network. probably why Chic hasn't gotten in yet. I imagine they will, eventually. Chic as a group, & Nile Rodgers as a producer should get in too.

Lenny should be in. he should be in FIRST BALLOT.

War should be in - any version of the group.

I'm on the fence about Living Colour. their music overall is solidly good, but if they were caucasian would they have had as much attention??

in the end, many groups & performers would be worthy of getting in this Hall..

but politics plays a big part of it.

as it does in most things.

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Reply #20 posted 10/12/14 5:22pm

SoulAlive

MickyDolenz said:

Since War is 2 different groups now (the official one and the Lowrider Band), who would show up? razz

the Lowrider Band

the other,fake "War" is basically just one original member (Lonnie) with a group of anonymous musicians who had absolutely nothing to do with the original recordings.

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Reply #21 posted 10/12/14 6:24pm

lowkey

mltijchr said:

I am a confirmed, since-the-beginning, "hard-core" Sade fan..

for the group's career

(like this, pzlyprk??)

nothing in their stellar, brillian career really screams "rock n roll".

in fact - Sade (the group) & Sade (the singer) should have their own personal Hall of Fame,

to be honest about it..

though most of (the group) Sade's music has elements of & bites off of jazz.. they are not a "jazz group" in the traditional, real sense of that phrase. before rock n roll became popular in the mid-50s, you know there were the "pop standards" with singers like Sinatra, Bing Crosby, etc.. then all the big bands, the real jazz musicians (& their music) as well as classical music. "rock n roll" is basically (or WAS, basically?) a convenient catch-all phrase to fit what Chuck Berry et al started doing back then. rock n roll today seems to include any type of popular music, including groups you normally don't associate with "rock n roll". groups like CAMEO..

I wouldn't imagine the other (male) members of Sade would be too put off - if at all - that people associate their band with their exquisite lead singer. those dudes are great musicians & they are still gettin' paid. they know - & probably would agree - that Ms. Adu deserves all the attention she gets and has gotten.

per the others mentioned (& summarily dissed from the Hall this time):

Janet Jackson shouldn't be in there. at her peak she was a pop music/pop culture icon whose biggest hit woud be "you don't stand another chance".. if Jimmy & Terry hadn't gotten stuck in the snow

Whitney could get in, maybe should get in.. just from the power, skill & beauty of her voice

(I personally didn't like most of her music - it was all too "calculated pop syrup crap" for me)

the RRHoF is definitely a "good ol' (white) boys' network. probably why Chic hasn't gotten in yet. I imagine they will, eventually. Chic as a group, & Nile Rodgers as a producer should get in too.

Lenny should be in. he should be in FIRST BALLOT.

War should be in - any version of the group.

I'm on the fence about Living Colour. their music overall is solidly good, but if they were caucasian would they have had as much attention??

in the end, many groups & performers would be worthy of getting in this Hall..

but politics plays a big part of it.

as it does in most things.

so janet shouldnt be in because of who she worked with? is there any kind of logic or sense in this

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Reply #22 posted 10/12/14 6:45pm

mjscarousal

Janet deserves to get in but there are acts more deserving to get in before her like WAR, Bill Withers, The Spinners, Chic, and countless others. There are acts that have been snubbed way worst than her that still have not been inducted. I think she should get in too but just saying. I have not a clue why Green Day is even nominated.

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Reply #23 posted 10/12/14 9:57pm

Stymie

Don't care about any of those. Want NIN to get in.
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bobzilla77

SoulAlive said:

MickyDolenz said:

Since War is 2 different groups now (the official one and the Lowrider Band), who would show up? razz

the Lowrider Band

the other,fake "War" is basically just one original member (Lonnie) with a group of anonymous musicians who had absolutely nothing to do with the original recordings.

One of the reasons I really hope they do get the nod, is it will draw attention to their shameful situation and lead to either rights to the name reverting to the rightful owners, or at least expose what people really see when they buy a ticket for "War." It could make a big difference for those four guys in the Lowrider Band while they are still alive to enjoy it.

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Reply #25 posted 10/13/14 2:14pm

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:

the Lowrider Band

the other,fake "War" is basically just one original member (Lonnie) with a group of anonymous musicians who had absolutely nothing to do with the original recordings.

One of the reasons I really hope they do get the nod, is it will draw attention to their shameful situation and lead to either rights to the name reverting to the rightful owners, or at least expose what people really see when they buy a ticket for "War." It could make a big difference for those four guys in the Lowrider Band while they are still alive to enjoy it.

I agree.

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Reply #26 posted 10/13/14 3:02pm

mjscarousal

bobzilla77 said:

SoulAlive said:

the Lowrider Band

the other,fake "War" is basically just one original member (Lonnie) with a group of anonymous musicians who had absolutely nothing to do with the original recordings.

One of the reasons I really hope they do get the nod, is it will draw attention to their shameful situation and lead to either rights to the name reverting to the rightful owners, or at least expose what people really see when they buy a ticket for "War." It could make a big difference for those four guys in the Lowrider Band while they are still alive to enjoy it.

I am a big fan of WAR what is going on with this situation? Some fake members are posing as the real WAR band? Can you give me the full story if you dont mind. I think they definitly deserve to get in, long overdue.

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Reply #27 posted 10/13/14 3:25pm

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Janet should get in for the same reason Madonna is in.

Also, why isn't BARRY WHITE in?

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Reply #28 posted 10/13/14 3:51pm

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The Hall is not female friendly by any means, just ask HEART who it took forever to get on the damn ballot and sorry but ANN WILSON belonged in the Hall of fame long before Patti Smith? sorry, as does Joan Jett and Pat Benatar, I mean if Blondie gets in than Jett and Benatar deserve it.

ALSO the hall is not friendly to the "Faceless" bands, you know the Chicago, Styx, Journey, Boston, etc.... Chicago is really just being ignored mainly because they went "soft" in the 80's, the HALL is based on writers and critics, and CRITICS hate this band since Terry Kath died. To be Honest had Terry's death ended this band, they'd be in. The others will never get looked at, don't know why I keep hearing people ask about Journey getting in, that is never gonna happen, they deserve it, but between them and Bon Jovi, its never gonna happen, though Jovi was nominated twice.


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Reply #29 posted 10/13/14 7:09pm

SoulAlive

^^Pat Benatar definitely deserves to be in.She was the ultimate 80s rock singer...kinda like what Pink is supposed to be for this generation.

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