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Terence Trent D'arby Sign Your Name

Brilliant song.

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Reply #1 posted 07/14/14 2:40am

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That song sound Brilliant when it came out all those years ago and it still sounds Brilliant today...They Produced the Hell out of that song and Terrence's crooning vocals are beyond on-point. Name me a singer that can re-make that Shit and take it from him? @ Best I'd pair Jaheim, Ursher and Bruno Mars to do a Trio Pop version of the song...I wouldnt trust either of them to do a Solo...I Know Ursher can croon without dancing. Jaheim shouldnt dance when he's suppose to dance, but at least he tries..LOL..Can Bruno Mars sing a ballad without dancing all over the stage? Every time I've seen him he's making Love to the Mic and dancing all over the stage....

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Chancellor said:

That song sound Brilliant when it came out all those years ago and it still sounds Brilliant today...They Produced the Hell out of that song and Terrence's crooning vocals are beyond on-point. Name me a singer that can re-make that Shit and take it from him?

Nobody can ever sound like TTD. He's a brilliant vocalist and I knew that moment I saw his cover of Whos Loving You..

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Reply #3 posted 07/14/14 6:07am

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Speaking of TTD, though, I neverh had the chance to see his 1988 Grammy performance, they say Prince and Michael both shit their pants when they saw him.

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Reply #4 posted 07/14/14 8:58am

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http://onetwoonetwothreefour.com/musicblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Q-Terence-Trent-DArby-promoting-the-Artists-Against-Apartheid-movement-backstage-at-a-Royal-Albert-Hall-performance-in-April-1987..jpg

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Reply #5 posted 07/14/14 9:55am

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You know what this is? My 5th favourite song OF ALL TIME. You don't want to see the rest of my top ten, because it sucks. Yes, TTD's Sign Your Name is the only song in there with artistic merit. And I have a Janet song and a Madonna song in there!

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But yes, this song goes hard. I'm not going to bother to justify why, because ScarletScandal is going to show up and kick my ass for being a poseur!

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BTW George Michael covered it. It was pretty good. But nothing beats the original.

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I don't want your rhythm without your rhyme
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Reply #6 posted 07/14/14 9:58am

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An all time classic.

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Reply #7 posted 07/14/14 10:00am

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America Has Money, Quit Lying
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Reply #8 posted 07/14/14 10:43am

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I don't want to fuel anything here but I am curious about something.

I'm not familiar with this guy in the slightest but I heard elsewhere on the org a rumor that MJ ruined his career. Can someone give me some insight on this alleged incident please?

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Reply #9 posted 07/14/14 10:44am

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For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #10 posted 07/14/14 10:53am

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MotownSubdivision said:

I'm not familiar with this guy in the slightest but I heard elsewhere on the org a rumor that MJ ruined his career. Can someone give me some insight on this alleged incident please?

If you go to search above, there's several threads that talk about this. Here's a couple of them:

http://prince.org/msg/8/361482

http://prince.org/msg/8/401926

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
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Reply #11 posted 07/14/14 10:58am

JoeBala

You should check out his discography. IMHO one of the best sounding gritty & soft voices in R&B/Pop: http://www.allmusic.com/a...iscography

MotownSubdivision said:

I don't want to fuel anything here but I am curious about something.

I'm not familiar with this guy in the slightest but I heard elsewhere on the org a rumor that MJ ruined his career. Can someone give me some insight on this alleged incident please?

LN: I love your performance of "Who's Loving You" that Smokey Robinson wrote, but became popular because of Michael Jackson. Did you ever meet Michael? How do you see him as artist, and his place in music history?
TTD/SM: As much as any other cause or excuse, Master Michael used his tremendous influence and control of the Beatles' catalog to ensure that my way was compromised. I can honestly stand before God at Judgment and testify that the great Master Jackson was a bona fide, life changing 'pain in my ass', the 800 pound Gorilla in the room never mentioned but always felt, if not seen. I have always found the grand irony in the fact that the Beatles, whose songs opened and changed my life, would be the same group used in the hands of my great nemesis, to, in effect, kill the same life that those songs had first given life to. Isn't Irony a rather witty and cold hearted bitch?
He hated me. And yet, circumstances being as we find them, none of that made him any less a Hero to me for all that he had already done to inspire my youth, and coming together as a servant of the music. In many respects, it can be said that he helped to steal my life. And yet, because he did, he may have also helped to prolong it, preserve it and place me onto another plane of perspective wherein I might dwell and succeed, in this wonderful new life, that he may well be a viable part of having to help establish. I always felt, and still, that had he not used his power to crush my scene and its influence, and had other powerful forces not concurred, my competition might have made him, at that stage of his life, an even greater artist than the genius that he already was.
I would have challenged him, kept my foot in his ass, and dared and invited him to challenge me, all in the interest of the best that we could have been and the benefit it might have been to the industry and its fans and employees. History will show that despite his spectacular status well earned and deserved, avoiding and helping to nullify the fact of my existence did neither of us any great favors. Bear in mind that Sony was scared shitless of myself and Master Jackson being close. Then again, so was the F.B.I. & the C.I.A. Particularly African American talent is watched and scrutinized carefully that they not put their minds together towards anything not on the system's agenda, lest they inspire greater discussion and participation in the body politic among those regarded as their "People".
Being a fatal nemesis aside, his place in the music Pantheon is unquestioned. He was truly, though a part of a tradition, one of a kind, and never to be seen again. And neither do we deserve to see his kind again. We are by and large a bunch of bastards, and use our geniuses as forms of pagan sacrifice. Especially once they become worth more dead than alive. In the final analysis, who was I to have expected better treatment from him? Heroes at war is the history of heaven.

[Edited 7/14/14 11:18am]

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Reply #12 posted 07/14/14 1:23pm

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People called him 'delusional' all the time... You can tell he had so much potential but he ruined that after Symphony Or Damn... His genius is far more intresting and unique than Prince's, in my opinion, and he was a very good lyricist and producer.

Introducing The Hardline was more of a concept album, that was missing in contemporary R&B albums of the late 80's/early 90's... while it was very common in the 70's but that was soul music back then.

He's the architect of cont. R&B and nobody is giving him the right props after all these years.

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Reply #13 posted 07/14/14 1:44pm

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TTD was so great the industry couldn't handle him. The last thing they want is the bar set at his level. Forget about it. I know this thread is about Sign Your Name, but this song popped up the other day on a usb drive I have in my car and I was just floored. Maybe someone else can appreciate it, too.

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Reply #14 posted 07/14/14 1:46pm

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It's been established that essentially Michael pressured Sony to not promote TTD the way he should have been. It's also a fact that John Branca (Michael's attorney and now co-executor of the MJ Estate) took TTD on as a client, only to be forced by Michael to drop him.

I love Michael so much, he's my favorite artist of all time along with Prince, but one thing I will say is that Mike handled his damn business, and when he felt it was necessary, he was ruthless about it.

I am glad that Terence has found peace with it.

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Reply #15 posted 07/14/14 3:01pm

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Wishing Well is betta.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #16 posted 07/14/14 11:19pm

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What are his later albums like? I used to own Symphony Or Damn and Introducing The Hardline many moons ago and really loved them. Is his newer stuff much cop??

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JoeBala said:

You should check out his discography. IMHO one of the best sounding gritty & soft voices in R&B/Pop: http://www.allmusic.com/a...iscography

LN: I love your performance of "Who's Loving You" that Smokey Robinson wrote, but became popular because of Michael Jackson. Did you ever meet Michael? How do you see him as artist, and his place in music history?
TTD/SM: As much as any other cause or excuse, Master Michael used his tremendous influence and control of the Beatles' catalog to ensure that my way was compromised. I can honestly stand before God at Judgment and testify that the great Master Jackson was a bona fide, life changing 'pain in my ass', the 800 pound Gorilla in the room never mentioned but always felt, if not seen. I have always found the grand irony in the fact that the Beatles, whose songs opened and changed my life, would be the same group used in the hands of my great nemesis, to, in effect, kill the same life that those songs had first given life to. Isn't Irony a rather witty and cold hearted bitch?
He hated me. And yet, circumstances being as we find them, none of that made him any less a Hero to me for all that he had already done to inspire my youth, and coming together as a servant of the music. In many respects, it can be said that he helped to steal my life. And yet, because he did, he may have also helped to prolong it, preserve it and place me onto another plane of perspective wherein I might dwell and succeed, in this wonderful new life, that he may well be a viable part of having to help establish. I always felt, and still, that had he not used his power to crush my scene and its influence, and had other powerful forces not concurred, my competition might have made him, at that stage of his life, an even greater artist than the genius that he already was.
I would have challenged him, kept my foot in his ass, and dared and invited him to challenge me, all in the interest of the best that we could have been and the benefit it might have been to the industry and its fans and employees. History will show that despite his spectacular status well earned and deserved, avoiding and helping to nullify the fact of my existence did neither of us any great favors. Bear in mind that Sony was scared shitless of myself and Master Jackson being close. Then again, so was the F.B.I. & the C.I.A. Particularly African American talent is watched and scrutinized carefully that they not put their minds together towards anything not on the system's agenda, lest they inspire greater discussion and participation in the body politic among those regarded as their "People".
Being a fatal nemesis aside, his place in the music Pantheon is unquestioned. He was truly, though a part of a tradition, one of a kind, and never to be seen again. And neither do we deserve to see his kind again. We are by and large a bunch of bastards, and use our geniuses as forms of pagan sacrifice. Especially once they become worth more dead than alive. In the final analysis, who was I to have expected better treatment from him? Heroes at war is the history of heaven.

Deep...very deep...

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Reply #18 posted 07/15/14 3:06am

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ginusher said:

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You know what this is? My 5th favourite song OF ALL TIME. You don't want to see the rest of my top ten, because it sucks. Yes, TTD's Sign Your Name is the only song in there with artistic merit. And I have a Janet song and a Madonna song in there!

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But yes, this song goes hard. I'm not going to bother to justify why, because ScarletScandal is going to show up and kick my ass for being a poseur!

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BTW George Michael covered it. It was pretty good. But nothing beats the original.

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today i heard sign your name for the first time today and it was fking amazing and then i heard gms version... it's very bad quality you need to listen harder... im sorry you just cant beat george with covers he sings more soul than the original writer and always delivers you just need to listen to the long and winding road and they won't go when i go... he tore apart sign your name and made it his. i just wish it was available in soundboard quality sad

I'm feeling a bit fammy™
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Reply #19 posted 07/15/14 4:50pm

JoeBala

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Reply #20 posted 07/15/14 4:56pm

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Shawy89 said:

Speaking of TTD, though, I neverh had the chance to see his 1988 Grammy performance, they say Prince and Michael both shit their pants when they saw him.

The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #21 posted 07/16/14 1:53am

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Can no-one recommend his newer stuff to me?? Am kind of in two minds as to whether to give it a shot or not.

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Reply #22 posted 07/16/14 7:27am

JoeBala

MattyJam said:

Can no-one recommend his newer stuff to me?? Am kind of in two minds as to whether to give it a shot or not.

It's very garage type stuff with alot of experimental stuff, so not the big productions from the first 4. The last video I posted is his newer stuff. People seem to like his last release: http://www.amazon.com/Ret...B00BJZFNRU

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Reply #23 posted 07/16/14 8:12am

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JoeBala said:

You should check out his discography. IMHO one of the best sounding gritty & soft voices in R&B/Pop: http://www.allmusic.com/a...iscography

MotownSubdivision said:

I don't want to fuel anything here but I am curious about something.

I'm not familiar with this guy in the slightest but I heard elsewhere on the org a rumor that MJ ruined his career. Can someone give me some insight on this alleged incident please?

LN: I love your performance of "Who's Loving You" that Smokey Robinson wrote, but became popular because of Michael Jackson. Did you ever meet Michael? How do you see him as artist, and his place in music history?
TTD/SM: As much as any other cause or excuse, Master Michael used his tremendous influence and control of the Beatles' catalog to ensure that my way was compromised. I can honestly stand before God at Judgment and testify that the great Master Jackson was a bona fide, life changing 'pain in my ass', the 800 pound Gorilla in the room never mentioned but always felt, if not seen. I have always found the grand irony in the fact that the Beatles, whose songs opened and changed my life, would be the same group used in the hands of my great nemesis, to, in effect, kill the same life that those songs had first given life to. Isn't Irony a rather witty and cold hearted bitch?
He hated me. And yet, circumstances being as we find them, none of that made him any less a Hero to me for all that he had already done to inspire my youth, and coming together as a servant of the music. In many respects, it can be said that he helped to steal my life. And yet, because he did, he may have also helped to prolong it, preserve it and place me onto another plane of perspective wherein I might dwell and succeed, in this wonderful new life, that he may well be a viable part of having to help establish. I always felt, and still, that had he not used his power to crush my scene and its influence, and had other powerful forces not concurred, my competition might have made him, at that stage of his life, an even greater artist than the genius that he already was.
I would have challenged him, kept my foot in his ass, and dared and invited him to challenge me, all in the interest of the best that we could have been and the benefit it might have been to the industry and its fans and employees. History will show that despite his spectacular status well earned and deserved, avoiding and helping to nullify the fact of my existence did neither of us any great favors. Bear in mind that Sony was scared shitless of myself and Master Jackson being close. Then again, so was the F.B.I. & the C.I.A. Particularly African American talent is watched and scrutinized carefully that they not put their minds together towards anything not on the system's agenda, lest they inspire greater discussion and participation in the body politic among those regarded as their "People".
Being a fatal nemesis aside, his place in the music Pantheon is unquestioned. He was truly, though a part of a tradition, one of a kind, and never to be seen again. And neither do we deserve to see his kind again. We are by and large a bunch of bastards, and use our geniuses as forms of pagan sacrifice. Especially once they become worth more dead than alive. In the final analysis, who was I to have expected better treatment from him? Heroes at war is the history of heaven.

[Edited 7/14/14 11:18am]

Some say deep, I say batshit insane.

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Some say deep, I say batshit insane.

...LOL...The Brotha might be crazy cuz what Entertainer isn't but I like the Fact that he was brave & Bold enough to tell his Truth. He experienced Michael Jackson one way and if Michael were alive he'd tell us his tale. I give Celebs their propers when they talk about their past cuz that let's me know that they're wanting a better Future.

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Reply #25 posted 07/17/14 5:30am

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Trent Darby had the makings of an all time great....

but he clearly explains what happened to his career

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I might get stick for this, but personally I felt like "introducing the headline..." was micromanaged and contrived.... but when they gave him control to do "neither fish nor flesh", I felt like I heard TTD in his organic glory, shame it bombed because they are some really awesome number there.

disbelief

The "Vibrator" album which no one has even urinated on in this thread, arguably has a lost gem of a ballad.... "Undeniably"....

nod

Never heard the MJ story, but somehow seems plausible. I did hear about Prince telling TTD to get out of one of his studios around the time of the "celebrations", can anyone shed some light on this at the risk of blowing smoke?

'dre

Tried many flavours - but sooner or later, always go back to the Purple Kool-aid!

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DreZone said:

I might get stick for this, but personally I felt like "introducing the headline..." was micromanaged and contrived.... but when they gave him control to do "neither fish nor flesh", I felt like I heard TTD in his organic glory, shame it bombed because they are some really awesome number there.

disbelief

The "Vibrator" album which no one has even urinated on in this thread, arguably has a lost gem of a ballad.... "Undeniably"....

nod

Never heard the MJ story, but somehow seems plausible. I did hear about Prince telling TTD to get out of one of his studios around the time of the "celebrations", can anyone shed some light on this at the risk of blowing smoke?

'dre

The Vibrator album is his best one IMO, my favourite song being "Holding On To You"

With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #28 posted 07/18/14 2:17am

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Shawy89 said:

Chancellor said:

That song sound Brilliant when it came out all those years ago and it still sounds Brilliant today...They Produced the Hell out of that song and Terrence's crooning vocals are beyond on-point. Name me a singer that can re-make that Shit and take it from him?

Nobody can ever sound like TTD. He's a brilliant vocalist and I knew that moment I saw his cover of Whos Loving You..

nod

With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #29 posted 07/18/14 2:19am

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Militant said:

An all time classic.

nod by far not my favourite song by him, not even in my top 10 TTD songs, but a perfect pop song

With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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