Biebers shoes cost more than your house.

novabrkr said:

Those are some of the funniest pictures I've seen in a while. Especially the second one. It looks like it could be from a cartoon.

It's the little point I like. I imagine him saying, "Right back atcha!", or something quite unrappery.

hausofmoi7 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

(Sean Combs) is NOT my hero dude!

Your like the Benny Medina of prince.org

Oh damn!

BlaqueKnight said:

I think he sees those guys as cool and badass and being a young man and them being older, he emulates their behavior because they are male figures he has access to.

Its not a race thing; its a young male thing.

When I was a kid, I thought the Fonz was cool. Then I got older and learned the Fonz was a little Jewish guy pretending to be an Italian guy and suddenly the Fonz seemed a lot less cool.

Eventually, Bieber will see them in a different light as he grows to learn more about who he is as a man.

That's about my take on it as well. If he was wanting to hang around with JC Chasez and David Cassidy, THAT would be weird.

I can't help but wonder if those guys really think he is fun and cool to hang around with, or if they're just letting him pick up the check and attract photographers.

I do think Jews are as cool as Italians though.

vainandy said:

Shawy89 said:

we see black men (anchors and all) acting normal just like white men, and just like every other man,

acting white was/never/will never be the default. I mentioned the example of "Black anchors" because they talk normal without using that kinda thing I mentioned in my previous post, acting like a thug IS a common thing between black people... Ain't that obvious? I have black friends and I spoke to 'em about this matter and they said white people shouldn't act black & shouldn't use the "n" word while black CAN between them... When Bieber acts thugish (DOESN'T MEAN HE DOESN'T ACT WHITE OR CIVILIZED), too thugish you'd think he pretends to be black, those are kind of people I myself despise and I'm sure a lot do..

Well, It seemed there is a "term" for these people, its called wigger:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigger

I don't know how to clean this mess up, I shouldn't ve started this up anyway.

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I see the point you're trying to make but where you're coming across bad is when you associate acting normal as acting white and acting thuggish as acting black. The media has done this because they have pushed this damn thug image to the max and if a white person has never had much exposure to black people on a personal level, they would think this is how all black people act because that's all they see on both TV and on the radio.

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I'm 46 so I can remember very clearly the days before shit hop took over. All the black DJs on black radio talked clearly like the news anchors you mentioned. Hell, to be on the radio, you had to be understandable so they talked clear, they just had a little more hipness to them than the news anchors but it was two different areas though, one was news and one was music so naturally the ones dealing with music were going to have a little more hipness to them. Actually, a lot of them talked more smooth and sexy like lovers but nowadays, they sound like they're having a gang discussion in a prison yard.

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You have to have black friends on a personal level to know what time it is because the media is sure not going to paint a true picture. And I'm not talking about just casual conversation with the black coworker every now and then or casual conversation with the black guy in the store occassionally. I'm talking about hanging out with and spending time at either your place or their place, going places together, and doing all the things that actual friends do rather than just casual acquaintances. Arguing with them when you disagree and finding out you're wrong about some things and them also finding out they're wrong about some things too during the arguements. All the things that friends of the same color would do. Fussing and fighting and making mistakes, because everyone makes mistakes, and making up afterwards and getting over it.

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That thug shit is an image the media has pushed and unfortunately, a lot of younger black people, and white people as well, have bought into it. But if you look closely, you'll find a lot of black people who aren't into that shit and most of my black friends despise that image even more than I do because it affects them directly and they have to catch the hell from the negative stereotypes it gives. Most of my friends are around my age, over 40, so they've been around long before that bullshit took over, just like I have, but I'm finding a lot more younger black people that aren't into that shit either.

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Just look at how a lot of white people accuse President Obama of being a thug. Now, that's actual racism right there. I mean, he wears a suit, talks proper, and if he weren't the president, those same people would think he "acts white" and "normal" just like the Don Lemons and Bryant Gumbles of the world. But let any of those guys get any political power and they would start calling them thugs also. The racists love these thug images because it gives them what they believe is a ligitimate arguement when putting down a black person who comes into some sort of political power. Most black people that I know can't stand these thug images. Sure there's a lot of black people that love these thug images but they are trash and trash comes in all colors. Just look at the redneck images and the white trash that love them also. The difference is, on the white side of the fence, the redneck image isn't the only white image that's pushed to the max by the media where the thug image is the main image that the media pushes on the black side of the fence.

Bumped for emphasis because Andy nailed it as usual,

Shawy89 said:

Look, I don't know who the hell is Don Lemmon or Bryan Gamble, if you see racism in my behavior, I'm sorry, and I apologize if I offended you. When I said black men acting normal, it's like, no "bro" no "yo", as normal as it gets (doesn't mean when you "yo" or "bro" people, you're not normal, in fact you're also normal that way, but that's a different attitude).. It's just the common thing black people have, you can't deny it, I can't, it's the thing going on BETWEEN THEM, and when a white boy goes in between it'd look & sound like he wants to be black.. I have started this thread me wondering if he wants to be black attitude-wise, he's sticking with big & old black people, you tell me that's normal? That's suspicious..

I'm not talking about this anymore, I'm so bad at expressing my thoughts and I don't wanna lose friends around here. Sorry again, mate.

Calm down chile....nobody thinks you're trying to be racist,


Don't get defensive when people point out to you the ways you have been conditioned to think...we have all been conditioned to varying degrees even though no one wants to admit it. I say the first line of defense is to be aware of it.

For example, as someone has pointed out, the word thug has become synonymous with young men of color....not by accident.

Another example, what's the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the word "terrorist"? Don't lie,

See how conditioning works?

kitbradley said:

He's a wannabee entertainer. Besides 7 year old girls, who else takes him seriously as a musical artist? He knows his days are severely numbered in the music industry. That's why he's been making a clown out of himself everytime the opportunity presents itself so he can have some legacy besides his completely forgettable "music".

Yup YUP! And just 4 the record...if someone is held in such high esteem by 7 year old girls, wouldn't one in such a position assume a greater sense of responsbility 2 his fanbase by being a better role model? Just some food 4 thought. I find him annoying, uncessarily egotistical and relish the day little bitchboy's career simply tanks. People look up 2 stars. ACT like a star and not a little punk with an attitude or go back "home" and be a menace THERE. Anne Murray, Celine Dion, Alanis Morrisette or Deborah Cox didn't come to The States reaking havoc like this little shitbag has/is. Pathetic. As soon as these 7 y/o girls stop buyin' his music, you'll see how fast he goes down the drain. Never 4get...it's the fans who put u up there 2 begin with. Can I get a witness?

Your too harsh on him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From a former child star to another one.....