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UPDATE-Marvin Gaye family claims Robin Thicke stole two songs http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/blurred-lines-lawsuit-marvin-gaye-651427
In blockbuster new legal papers, the Gayes also target music publisher EMI for "conflicts of interest" and a decision not to ruin the "golden goose" that is the year's biggest hit song.Marvin Gaye's family is responding in a major way to Robin Thicke's lawsuit claiming that "Blurred Lines" wasn't stolen from Gaye's "Got to Give It Up." OUR EDITOR RECOMMENDS
On Wednesday, the family went nuclear with counterclaims that allege that Thicke stole the summer mega-hit and also committed copyright infringement on Gaye's "After the Dance" to create his song "Love After War." What's more, the new legal papers obtained by The Hollywood Reportersuggest that Thicke's "Marvin Gaye fixation" extends to additional songs in theThicke repertoire. Perhaps even more consequential, Gaye's family also has set its sights on EMI April, the song publisher now owned by Sony/ATV that has business relationships with both sides. According to the counterclaims, EMI has breached a contract and its fiduciary duty by failing to protect Gaye's songs, attempting to intimidate the family against filing any legal action, failing to remain neutral when faced with a conflict of interest and attempting to turn public opinion against the family. The penalty for those acts, says the Gaye family, should be that EMI loses all profits on "Blurred Lines" as well as rights to administer the song catalog of Gaye, known as the "Prince of Soul." EARLIER: Robin Thicke Sues to Protect 'Blurred Lines' from Marvin Gaye's Family This court battle was triggered in August when Thicke and his producersPharrell Williams and Clifford Harris Jr. went to a California federal court with the aim of preemptively protecting "Blurred Lines" from allegations that it was illegally derived from Gaye's song as well asFunkadelic's "Sexy Ways." Requesting declaratory relief, the plaintiffs stated that "being reminiscent of a 'sound' is not copyright infringement." In the latest court papers, Frankie Gaye and Nona Gaye say that not only does the lawsuit concern "blatant copying of a constellation of distinctive and significant compositional elements of Marvin Gaye's classic #1 song," but that Thicke himself candidly admitted as much. The Gayes point to prelitigation interviews given by Thicke to GQ andBillboard. To the first publication, Thicke said:
But Thicke's tune supposedly changed after the lawsuit was filed. Here is a TMZ interview with the singer, quoted in the latest legal papers:
The Gaye family quotes music critics at The New York Times, Vice, Rolling Stone and Bloomberg Businessweek who have remarked about the Marvin Gaye resemblance in "Blurred Lines." The countersuit also presents an expert report by musicologist Judith Finell detailing "at least eight substantially similar compositional features" with Gaye's original. The similarities are said to encompass the signature phrase, vocal hook, backup vocal hook, their variations, and the keyboard and bass lines -- "far surpassing the similarities that might result from attempts to evoke an 'era' of music or a shared genre," according to the court papers. While the countersuit makes the case that the public has detected Gaye in Thicke's other songs -- "including the similar bridge and identical lyrics from Marvin Gaye's 'I Want You' in Thicke's similarly-themed work, 'Make U Love Me' " -- it brings a second copyright infringement claim only over Thicke's "Love After War." That song is said to share a similar chorus, hook melody and more with Gaye's "After the Dance." (Listen below.) If the countersuit against various parties including Universal Music andGeffen Records stopped there, it would be a noteworthy example of the legal issues that ari...yright law in controversies over songcraft. But the Gaye family, represented by attorneys Richard Busch and Paul Duvall at King & Ballow, add more. In fact, what makes the case possibly precedent-setting is the allegations lodged against EMI. EMI is the co-publisher of producing superstar Williams and is said to co-own and control "Blurred Lines." The Gaye family owns rights to "Got to Give It Up" and "After the Dance," but says it has assigned the rights to administer and protect those copyrights to EMI. Hence, a claimed conflict of interest. According to the countersuit, EMI's "misconduct" includes failing to identify and raise claims based on entrusted Marvin Gaye copyrights, and after allegedly admitting that a claim was viable, "subsequently instructing its litigation attorney to intimidate the Gaye Family from filing an action by antagonistically warning that any lawsuit would be frivolous." Read the counterclaim here. The Gaye family asserts that not only did EMI refuse to bring counterclaims after seeing a "renowned musicologist's report," but that it gave "strong biased support to the Blurred Writers." Read the musicologist's report here. To support the claim that EMI has breached its legal, contractual and ethical obligations, the Gaye family says that the chairman of EMI contacted its legal representative and accused the family of "ruining an incredible song," "killing the goose that laid the golden egg" and being responsible for "Blurred Lines" not receiving an MTV Video Music Award. He also allegedly complained that the lawsuit might kill any chances that Thicke would win a Grammy award for Song of the Year. The Gaye family also accuses EMI and representatives of Williams and Thicke of "the planting of a knowingly false story in the press that the Gaye Family supposedly turned down a "six figure settlement," (no such offer was made) in order to make them appear unreasonable." This is intolerable, say the counter-claimants. "Not only did EMI fail to bring this action, which is necessary to carry out EMI's duties to protect the Gaye Family's copyrights," says the countersuit, "EMI attempted to dissuade the Gaye Family from pursuing this action by repeated threats and tactics to intimidate the Gaye Family and its representatives." Now a contractual rescission is demanded in light of EMI's alleged decision to take no action on the "golden goose" that is Robin Thicke's hit. (Sony/ATV is one of the counter-defendants.) "The EMI Defendants control approximately thirty percent (30%) of the music publishing market throughout the world," says the family's court papers. "Accordingly, there is a strong likelihood that conflicts of interest, such as the one in the present case, will arise again between the EMI Defendants and the Gaye Family. Based upon the blatant and egregious breach of the EMI Defendants' fiduciary duty and their covenant of good faith and fair dealing, the EMI Defendants have proven that they cannot be trusted to remain neutral and impartial, and that they are unworthy of the level of trust and professional conduct which is required of a copyright administrator charged with protecting the Gaye Family's important interests in copyrighted works created by Marvin Gaye." The countersuit adds, "The Gaye Family should not be compelled to remain in this contractual relationship." Howard King, attorney for the Thicke camp, gave The Hollywood Reporter this response:
A spokesperson for Sony/ATV said in a statement that it hadn't yet seen the claims, but added, "We have repeatedly advised the Gaye family's attorney that the two songs in question have been evaluated by a leading musicologist who concluded that 'Blurred Lines' does not infringe 'Got To Give It Up.' We take our role in protecting the works of all of our songwriters from infringement very seriously. And while we very much treasure the works of Marvin Gaye and our relationship with the Gay family, we regret that they have been ill-advised in this matter." Twitter: @eriqgardner
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The Great Hijacking | |
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Unless your head is impaled up your ass or you never heard any of Mr. Gaye's music....
One would surmise that "Got To Give It Up" was stolen for Thicke's Blurred Lines. Yes, I said stolen since Mr. Thicke and Company are now trying to piss in everyone faces and tell them its rain. | |
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caught. with the internet these days, it's hard to lie once you give an interview. Thicke's "damn, we should make something like that, something with that groove" was quoted, so it shows his intent was to base "Blurred Lines" off of "Got To Give It Up"... | |
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Robin played himself this year. I was starting to like him, but that stunt with miley stopped that. [Edited 10/30/13 19:42pm] | |
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He's such a PUNK man... | |
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Both of those Marvin Gaye Songs appear to be sampled by Thicke & his Producers....Robin has been in Love with R&B music his entire life. This is so sad because EMI chose not to protect Gaye's Legacy and Rights so Robin could score a MONSTER hit. Then the nerve of EMI to claim The Gaye family is responsible for Robin not winning awards...I know the Gaye family is pissed at that comment...I am def supporting the Gaye family in this battle. I liked Robin Thicke but now I view him differently. I read on Google News that Paula Patton is also named because she has a credit in the song "Life After War".... | |
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the very first song he did was a sample of Walter Murphy's rendition of Beethoven's 5th Symphony
he came out the box using samples | |
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He credited that song though.
While I agree Blurred sounds just like Marvin, I don't get that Love after War soounds anything like After the Dance.
I have been a fan of Robin since the beginnining and this whole thing is so disapponting to me. That e would blatantly say that Blurred isn't just like Got to Give It Up and that Marvin's children want money for something they had nothing to do with. | |
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you're right...he did credit the song
but the nature of his music is that he features major samples | |
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Lord, this again! While the countersuit makes the case that the public has detected Gaye in Thicke's other songs -- "including the similar bridge and identical lyrics from Marvin Gaye's 'I Want You' in Thicke's similarly-themed work, 'Make U Love Me' " This is even more ludicrous than the "Sexy Ways" claim. The two songs, which happen to be my favorites by the respective artists, don't share any lyrics, much less "identical" ones. It's not even open to interpretation or someone's tin ear. See you on page 3! "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Make U Love me sounds nothing like I Want You in any shape, form or fashion.
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Even his old fans are jumping ship. His actions lately showed why I could never get into him before Something about him always turned me off. | |
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Amen....... | |
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