I have to say that I'm disturbed and dismayed by the recent spate of overtly sexualised performances and videos. You know the ones I'm talking about. It seems obvious that certain record companies are peddling highly styled pornography with musical accompaniment. As if the tidal wave of sexualised imagery wasn't already bombarding impressionable young girls enough..I believe in freedom of speech and expression, but the market forces don't give a toss about the notion of boundaries. As long as there's booty to make money out of, it will be bought and sold. It's depressing to see how these performers are so eager to push this new level of low.Their assumption seems to be that misogyny- utilised and displayed through oneself is totally fine, as long as you are the one creating it. As if it's all justified by how many millions of dollars and U tube hits you get from behaving like pimp and prostitute at the same time. It's a glorified and monetized form of self harm.

Gotta love Annie

Point blank, the shit's lame and tired. Don't know why people keep giving it attention.

ANNIE DA GAWD

Now lets see Miley tried to talk some twitter shit at Annie. I bet you Annie will shut it down hard!

TonyVanDam said:

Now lets see Miley tried to talk some twitter shit at Annie. I bet you Annie will shut it down hard!

Heck yeah. Love Annie.

TonyVanDam said:

I think everyone knows by now that, in the music industry, sex sells when you vocal ability can't. Miley, I'm assuming, wants to continue a career in the music industry. I have never heard a single person comment on what a fine singer she is so she's doing what's necessary to stay in the industry and her fans are going to support her. She's no dummy.

I'm not defending Miley. She is a crappy artist. I just can't stand the hypocrisy. Its like Miley is supposed to pay for 30 years of guilt for liking increasingly sexualized artists. All of sudden she crossed the line and everyone is piling on her.

Let's talk about Prince act. Simulated sex and bondage on stage, simulated felatio on a microphone stand, ran around onstage in just a bikini briefs, wrote a song about incest, Vanity's original name was Vagina.

I've seen pics of Annie Lennox topless with only panties. I've seen concert footage of her in a see through bra.

Janet Jackson had her Super Bowl nipple exposure. She also simulated sex acts with male audience members.

I dont even have to go through Madonna.

I find it funny that people find Miley vulgar because she isn't covering her sexual expression with artistic merit to assuage guilt. It's just in your face, unapologetic, and crass. I also noticed a tinge of sexism as well. Where is all the criticism of Robin Thicke for his misogynistic hit song? He's allowed to make a crass grab for fame and a 20 year old girl isn't?

lrn36 said:

I'm not defending Miley. She is a crappy artist. I just can't stand the hypocrisy. Its like Miley is supposed to pay for 30 years of guilt for liking increasingly sexualized artists. All of sudden she crossed the line and everyone is piling on her.

Let's talk about Prince act. Simulated sex and bondage on stage, simulated felatio on a microphone stand, ran around onstage in just a bikini briefs, wrote a song about incest, Vanity's original name was Vagina.

I've seen pics of Annie Lennox topless with only panties. I've seen concert footage of her in a see through bra.

Janet Jackson had her Super Bowl nipple exposure. She also simulated sex acts with male audience members.

I dont even have to go through Madonna.

I find it funny that people find Miley vulgar because she isn't covering her sexual expression with artistic merit to assuage guilt. It's just in your face, unapologetic, and crass. I also noticed a tinge of sexism as well. Where is all the criticism of Robin Thicke for his misogynistic hit song? He's allowed to make a crass grab for fame and a 20 year old girl isn't?

It does seem a little off, don't it? I got love for Annie but she's helping to bolster whatever Miley's doing. They didn't learn from Madonna, did they?

lrn36 said:

excuse me while i

HuMpThAnG said:

lrn36 said:

excuse me while i

Hehe you never seen this photo? Pretty hot, huh?

Timmy84 said:

HuMpThAnG said:

excuse me while i

Hehe you never seen this photo? Pretty hot, huh?

never...and hot isn't the word....damn!!!

HuMpThAnG said:

Timmy84 said:

Hehe you never seen this photo? Pretty hot, huh?

never...and hot isn't the word....damn!!!

I think it's the whole child star thing. At the very least Christina Aguilera for example had been out of the spotlight as a Disney TV star and came back as a recording artist when she was 18, then the sexual emergence came also at 20. It didn't seem all that weird for me with her. Then again I'm the same age as Christina and now a different generation to Miley.

Same with Madonna. She was in her mid 20s by the time she was a household name.

Maybe it's the context of it all. To use Christina again as an example - her big "shock the audience with overt sexuality" came with Dirrty. It was appropriate for the song. What Miley is doing has absolutely no context to the songs she's singing, which is why it seems so odd.

Ellie said:

I think it's the whole child star thing. At the very least Christina Aguilera for example had been out of the spotlight as a Disney TV star and came back as a recording artist when she was 18, then the sexual emergence came also at 20. It didn't seem all that weird for me with her. Then again I'm the same age as Christina and now a different generation to Miley.

Same with Madonna. She was in her mid 20s by the time she was a household name.

Maybe it's the context of it all. To use Christina again as an example - her big "shock the audience with overt sexuality" came with Dirrty. It was appropriate for the song. What Miley is doing has absolutely no context to the songs she's singing, which is why it seems so odd.

Miley brought that point clearer last night on SNL when she talked shit about Hannah Montana.

lrn36 said:

Lol Miley is easily avoidable though, you know? Least for me she is. People just read and read off her and then make a new news topic as to WHY they're talking about her. But you just wrote an article about her.

That's the difficulty with artists speaking out about other artists. Whereas Annie's message was more in general, the general notion from the public brought mentions of Miley and distorted whatever message Ms. Lennox was trying to send out. Almost as if her post was calculating to bring more hits to Miley news articles or even her website and clicks on iTunes for her songs.

i'm the lazy internet surfer, i haven't dug, so I haven't seen what Annie said or whom its about, but its an old argument, where does it begin? its like insert new pop tarts every other year to keep it moving. And REALLY HumpAThanG, the Annie photo had that kind of effect on you? LOL. she "old"! I'd never seen it but its more artsy than sexual and again, does she get a pass for ish like that (and the sheer blouse someone mentioned) cause she can sing and may have read Dostoevsky?

Ellie said:

I think it's the whole child star thing. At the very least Christina Aguilera for example had been out of the spotlight as a Disney TV star and came back as a recording artist when she was 18, then the sexual emergence came also at 20. It didn't seem all that weird for me with her. Then again I'm the same age as Christina and now a different generation to Miley.

Same with Madonna. She was in her mid 20s by the time she was a household name.

Maybe it's the context of it all. To use Christina again as an example - her big "shock the audience with overt sexuality" came with Dirrty. It was appropriate for the song. What Miley is doing has absolutely no context to the songs she's singing, which is why it seems so odd.

I wasn't too keen of the overtly sexualized Christina, but it seemed more genuine than Miley's attempt. So, what I'm trying to say if you work it.

Something Miley didn't deliver authentically.

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phunkdaddy said:

For those that missed it there were threads ad nauseum criticizing Robin Thicke for his sexist video and the display with Miley Cyrus on the video award show so I don't see how anyone can call hypocrisy here. Robin has been criticized just as much if not more than Miley.

Yeah. Robin's been accused of encouraging rape with "Blurred Lines". Yeah its controversy goes deeper than harmlessly allegedly "sampling" some classic song. He also got just as much blame for the VMA display as Miley did even if it appeared he didn't. For one thing, I think Miley had more defenders for what she did than Thicke.

datdude said:

i'm the lazy internet surfer, i haven't dug, so I haven't seen what Annie said or whom its about, but its an old argument, where does it begin? its like insert new pop tarts every other year to keep it moving. And REALLY HumpAThanG, the Annie photo had that kind of effect on you? LOL. she "old"! I'd never seen it but its more artsy than sexual and again, does she get a pass for ish like that (and the sheer blouse someone mentioned) cause she can sing and may have read Dostoevsky?

She can keep the hat and boots on

HuMpThAnG said:

datdude said:

i'm the lazy internet surfer, i haven't dug, so I haven't seen what Annie said or whom its about, but its an old argument, where does it begin? its like insert new pop tarts every other year to keep it moving. And REALLY HumpAThanG, the Annie photo had that kind of effect on you? LOL. she "old"! I'd never seen it but its more artsy than sexual and again, does she get a pass for ish like that (and the sheer blouse someone mentioned) cause she can sing and may have read Dostoevsky?

She can keep the hat and boots on

I honestly don't know what she was trying to do in that picture lol

Timmy84 said:

HuMpThAnG said:

She can keep the hat and boots on

I honestly don't know what she was trying to do in that picture lol

it don't matter

HuMpThAnG said:

Timmy84 said:

I honestly don't know what she was trying to do in that picture lol

it don't matter

Sweet dreams aren't made of these I guess.

it's the chickens coming home to roost some 26 years later when this beast known as the pop ascension began to swarm the musical industry and pushed out the real presentation and replace them with a new ensemble of individuals who newly hired music execs could use to project the theme that SEX SELLS

MICHAEL JACKSON unleashed the all time juggernaut with THRILLER and did not have to rely on common lowest denominator....everything was predicated on his immense talent

even allot of the adults artists during the 80s who used to project authenticity were forced to flash extreme sexuality to prolong their careers and they were STILL pushed out

the majority of these current ensemble of "artists" are not musically inclined at all.....not even a hint of it

because when it comes right down to it....most of the current ensemble knows if they had to present real talent and project authenticity, their careers would be done before it started......

and that's why this industry is finished.......the current get up will have to crash and succumb to its own demise before things can be corrected because most of these individuals could care less the destructive influence they have on their audience

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Timmy84 said:

HuMpThAnG said:

it don't matter

Sweet dreams aren't made of these I guess.

But I still admire Annie's words. There's gotta be moderation in what you do. You can express yourself sexually without going overboard. Again, it's in the Madonna playbook.