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Thread started 03/13/03 3:38pm

starbuck

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Bowie, Prince & Zappa Music's holy trinity?

These guys have a large back catalogue. have had an important influence on music. Legendary artists in their own right!
All have their own labels! (had in case of Zappa)..

Pay your respect 4 these 3 here smile
"Time is a train, makes the future the past"
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Reply #1 posted 03/13/03 4:18pm

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yeah, those three are definitely three of my faves. i just purchased the fran zappa's "halloween" dvd from www.zappa.com from the 1978 halloween shows from nyc. unfortunately, i don't have a dvd player and so i have not been able to watch it yet. that halloween stand is legendary in zappa circles.

i feel fortunate to have seen all three in concert on multiple occasions. all three are/were consumate artists with a unique vision, and uncompromising style.

i think a lot of prince fans get so annoyed with prince's career decisions since 1993, but for me i've seen that sort of thing from past artists that i admire and so i'm pretty ok with it. i'd much rather see him strike out on his own. even with the screw-ups that it entails, than keep trying the same thing over and over.

all three had such amazing early work, yet continued to evolve and create that fans hardily debate what material is strongest. many bowie fans think nothing past the spiders from mars can compare, some zappa fans think the early mothers of invention were "the" band, as many prince fans think only the revolution material is truely great.
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Reply #2 posted 03/13/03 7:30pm

hope4thenew

how bout' lady's de Trinity?

joni mitchell
bjork
ani d.?
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Reply #3 posted 03/14/03 9:15am

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medoc2003 said:

i think a lot of prince fans get so annoyed with prince's career decisions since 1993, but for me i've seen that sort of thing from past artists that i admire and so i'm pretty ok with it. i'd much rather see him strike out on his own. even with the screw-ups that it entails, than keep trying the same thing over and over.

all three had such amazing early work, yet continued to evolve and create that fans hardily debate what material is strongest. many bowie fans think nothing past the spiders from mars can compare, some zappa fans think the early mothers of invention were "the" band, as many prince fans think only the revolution material is truely great.



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Reply #4 posted 03/14/03 10:06am

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I also ordered the Halloween Zappa cd at his website but still waiting...
What did u think of the other releases?
OZ and FZ plays frank zappa?
"Time is a train, makes the future the past"
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Reply #5 posted 03/14/03 12:00pm

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1+1+1 is 3

I agree with you, but Miles has to be in there somewhere - his back catalogue is unbelievable in terms of volume, style, innovation and of course quality.

All four were on the cutting edge their whole lives (even if it wasn't recognised) and appealed to different generations in different ways. Neither of them ever took any BS from anyone and had some sort of charisma/arrogance about them. There were also somewhat reclusive in their personal lives. They were also equally amazing in the studio and in live performances. Hooray for them!
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Reply #6 posted 03/14/03 2:24pm

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i really liked fz:oz. i liked that early 76 tour with filthy habits, and the release of something with the kaiser rolls was a plus. i think he only played it with vocals one 2 or 3 dates ever. it is unfortunate that they had to edit it with boot copies though.

the problem i had with fz plays fz was that it included the album versions of those songs, like every person that ordered it didn't have those already. it wasted so much space on disc that could have been taken up by other stuff.

also, as much as i love fz both fz:oz and fzplays fz were too expensive. halloween was a much better deal. when you get it and watch it, post a review. i don't know when i'll be able to view my copy.
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Reply #7 posted 03/14/03 2:58pm

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I love Bowie and Prince, but haven't really listened to Zappa yet.
I guess he's worth checking out, right?
What should I start with?
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Reply #8 posted 03/14/03 5:14pm

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the most "accessable" albums are the mid 70's albums:
overnight sensation
apostrophe
one size fits all
roxy and elsewhere

those would be the records that i'd recommend for someone new to zappa.
some other personal favorites:
uncle meat (my personal favorite, but maybe not a good starting place for someone new to zappa)
hot rats (could rival bitches brew as the first jazz-rock fusion album)
burny weenie sandwhich (late 60's mothers great)
shut up'n play yer guitar (all guitar solo album)
absolutely free (mid 60's version of the mothers, way cool)
lather (pronounced somewhat like leather)
the grand wazoo (sort of zappa does big band)
bongo fury (very bluesy, has captain beefheart on many cuts)
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Reply #9 posted 03/14/03 6:45pm

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Music's holy trinity

James Brown
George Clinton
Prince


who had a bigger impact than those 3 cats?
Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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Reply #10 posted 03/14/03 8:39pm

starbuck

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intha916 said:

Music's holy trinity

James Brown
George Clinton
Prince


who had a bigger impact than those 3 cats?



These 3 are FUNK's holy trinity!!
"Time is a train, makes the future the past"
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Reply #11 posted 03/14/03 8:42pm

starbuck

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Medoc, If i get 2 watch it I'll post a review smile

My fave Zappa lp's:

Absolutely free
You Are what you is
Apostrophe
Lather
One size fits all
We're only in it for the money
Broadway the hardway
Civilization phase III
Joe's Garage

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An excellent starting point 4 any1 new 2 Zappa would be

Strictly commercial

Zappa's greatest hits ( lol) If it were a perfect world ...
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Reply #12 posted 03/16/03 4:40pm

calldapplwonde
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Thanks for the suggestions!
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