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Printablemistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Harlepolis said: Essence said: Harlepolis said: Whats the reason behind the beef between him and his protege female voaclist "Sparkle"?? the woman also was screamin loud in some radio station saying that one of the girls he messed with is her niece,,,lol
You've answered your own question, the 14/15 year old girl in the video is supposedly her neice, band member's daughter and R's god-daughter. Combine this with post-colaboration bitching and R apparently had relationship with Sparkle too so bitterness there also. She needs to understand were it not for "Be Careful" nobody would be inviting her to do radio interviews at all though... great song R laced her with. LOL Do you know what makes it hard to believe?? Is she kept her mouth SHUT all this time when she founded the chance(The sex tape saga) she took an aim at him. I think I read in S2S magazine that she splited up with him becoz of "financial" problems,,there wasn't no beef mention anywhere. Hahaha right, Sparkle going on radio talking R's dirt is like Carmen Lektra or Vanity doing the same on Prince. Using what they have to get some promotion after the love has gone... R's hooked them up every album but until they start bad mouthing him for publicity they're not in same boat as bitter Sparkle really. She even went as far as having Kelly-wannabe Steve Huff produce her second album, who even heard that one? | |
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Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Harlepolis said: Essence said: Harlepolis said: Whats the reason behind the beef between him and his protege female voaclist "Sparkle"?? the woman also was screamin loud in some radio station saying that one of the girls he messed with is her niece,,,lol
You've answered your own question, the 14/15 year old girl in the video is supposedly her neice, band member's daughter and R's god-daughter. Combine this with post-colaboration bitching and R apparently had relationship with Sparkle too so bitterness there also. She needs to understand were it not for "Be Careful" nobody would be inviting her to do radio interviews at all though... great song R laced her with. LOL Do you know what makes it hard to believe?? Is she kept her mouth SHUT all this time when she founded the chance(The sex tape saga) she took an aim at him. I think I read in S2S magazine that she splited up with him becoz of "financial" problems,,there wasn't no beef mention anywhere. Hahaha right, Sparkle going on radio talking R's dirt is like Carmen Lektra or Vanity doing the same on Prince. Using what they have to get some promotion after the love has gone... R's hooked them up every album but until they start bad mouthing him for publicity they're not in same boat as bitter Sparkle really. She even went as far as having Kelly-wannabe Steve Huff produce her second album, who even heard that one? mistermaxxx | |
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Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways. mistermaxxx | |
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mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. | |
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The Difference Between R Kelly and Elvis Presley? Did the radio station stop playing Elvis Presley's music when he married his 13 year old wife? Did anyone boycott Miami Vice when they found out that Don Johnson was living with a 14 year old? Did the picket signs raise in fury when Woody Allen was accused of sleeping with his adopted daughter? We can say NO to all those rhetorical questions. So why is R Kelly being persecuted as an artist? I can tell you why the R & B/Hip Hop star is being ridiculed. The hypocrisy that colors this circumstance can be traced back to the racial overtones of slavery. White men created a hysteria that Black men were oversexed animals who could not be left alone with their "innocent" white women. As music can penetrate the suburbs, the virgin snow white life style that separates the Black urban reality from an elite White privilege. Music told the story and continues to tell the story of the Black man's reality and has raised a generation of White women and men that are more sympathetic to the Black community. They are no longer too content on buying that Blacks are nothing but animals. So there should not be a surprise that the White elite ruling class will create a hypocritical stance in terms of OUR R Kelly. The media is nothing but polarized script writing. And Hollywood would like R Kelly to be the "LADIES MAN" -- envisioning the Black man's sexual prowess. Some radio stations have even tried to use his own songs to incriminate him. Certainly Elvis' "Aint nothing but a HOUND DOG" was not used against him as groupies flocked around him granting him his sexual desires. What is the difference between R Kelly and Elvis Presley? They both married underaged women? Allegedly they both had sexual encounters with underaged groupies. The Black and White contrast shows that racism continues to pardon White artists, all the while demonizing Black artists. I cannot condone any young girl being taken advantage of by someone for sheer sexual pleasure. But let's be realistic are these girls entirely innocent? Is our society entirely innocent? Are the parents of these children entirely innocent? The question of sexuality must be addressed. Since we have so many radio disc jockeys who are commenting against R Kelly. If R Kelly is so bad, I challenge the radio stations to stop playing ALL music that treat women like pieces of meat. Ouch! I guess Record Labels and payola can allow for certain sexuality and exploitation of music, but do not condone the acts? Let's face it most of the Music channels that stuffs sexuality down our youth's throats cater to the ages that R Kelly supposedly sexed: 13-18. This society has taken away age appropriate recreational activities and replaced it with sex. Re-creating one's SELF is an excellent activity. Yet this society does not empower the spirit of young girls to know when they should engage in an intimate activity. Young girls do not have enough self worth to even be discriminating in their sexual choices. Sex education is taught in such a mechanical fashion in our homes, in our children's school. It should not be called SEX EDUCATION. It should be called: DISEASE and BABY PREVENTION. The classes teach how to not get pregnant, and how to not get a disease, but the classes and our homes do not teach how to love ourselves. Young girls are not given the tools to love themselves, so they participate in sexual activities-yearning for some type of display of affection. We should not be so shocked when 13 year olds and 14 year olds are sexually active. This society displays and sells sex through out every avenue: television shows, videos, commercials, radio stations. Assuming what the media claims to be true, let's ask: Why would R Kelly think that having sex with teenage girls to be an appropriate act? Let's look at the historical implication of sexual activity and Black men. Black men have been trained to be studs and connect on a sexual level. Surprising? Since slavery Blacks did not receive a seminar on how to overcome the brutal acts of slavery. We internalized the N word as a term of endearment, and it was a term of hate used against us. Black men have taken pride in sexual stereotypes that they are pimps, hoes and etc.. Because Black men are not able to compete against their oppressor in the global, economic and military sectors, they have resorted to conquering vaginas. This generation that wants to conquer has resorted to conquering Black women. That's all this society will "allow" them to safely conquer. The Hip Hop generation have managed to conquer the sexual elements, but have not conquered the political elements of society. White supremacists are aware of this. Yet they still want to display and show the level of control they have over OUR artists. IF R Kelly is not innocent, we can certainly put parents on trial, high school on trial, this society on trial - Those young girls were not raped ladies and gentlemen. They got the impression from someone that it was ok to give their bodies up so willingly without a thought that this may be wrong, until they confessed to someone that had enough sense to discern that something was wrong. I do not know if R Kelly is guilty or not, I did not look at the tapes, or read the court documents. Yet we are an interdependent society, so there is not one individual to be blamed. This entire social structure (White supremacy) benefits from exploiting insecure young girls. Should R Kelly be the scape goat for a music industry that uses sex to sell billions of records? Radio disc jockeys who are proclaiming this "Holier than thou" attitude amaze me. After they make a commentary about R Kelly's perverted acts, they put on a song that is laced with sexual overtones. All I have to say to them is: If R Kelly's Ignition cannot be played, Why wasn't Elvis: I aint nothing but a Hound dog protested? written by Shemia What's Your Opinion on this article? About the author: Shemia Miller is a global consultant for Black businesses. MBA in Global Management and International affairs. She is the marketing director for Here After Records (www.hereafter-records.com). Her upcoming book that will hit stores such as Barnes and Nobles and Amazon.com entitled "What White Women Won't Tell Us" has scholars anticipating great dialogue. A column writer for Chuck D's uplifting site RAP STATION (www.rapstation.com). To contact her email shemiamiller@yahho.com | |
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Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. mistermaxxx | |
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Essence said: from DaveyD.com:
RIGHT ON Essence for Bringing this.everybody knows the Man is trying to Sabotage The King of R&B's Career.R.Kelly got some Issues but they trying to use Him as a Target for other folks in the music Business.Led Zepplin did the same things that R.Kelly has been found to have done.Damn Right it's a Racist Double Standard.but you know what?Folks Like Myself don't care because they can't stop the R.Kelly Hustle.The Baddest MF in Da Biz Today can't be Faded.it gets so tiring because Black Folks are always Blamed for Every Damn Thing wrong with this Country&yet We gotta Set all of the Trends&Keep the Plantation Clean,&Smile like 400 Years don't Matter??The Difference Between R Kelly and Elvis Presley? Did the radio station stop playing Elvis Presley's music when he married his 13 year old wife? Did anyone boycott Miami Vice when they found out that Don Johnson was living with a 14 year old? Did the picket signs raise in fury when Woody Allen was accused of sleeping with his adopted daughter? We can say NO to all those rhetorical questions. So why is R Kelly being persecuted as an artist? I can tell you why the R & B/Hip Hop star is being ridiculed. The hypocrisy that colors this circumstance can be traced back to the racial overtones of slavery. White men created a hysteria that Black men were oversexed animals who could not be left alone with their "innocent" white women. As music can penetrate the suburbs, the virgin snow white life style that separates the Black urban reality from an elite White privilege. Music told the story and continues to tell the story of the Black man's reality and has raised a generation of White women and men that are more sympathetic to the Black community. They are no longer too content on buying that Blacks are nothing but animals. So there should not be a surprise that the White elite ruling class will create a hypocritical stance in terms of OUR R Kelly. The media is nothing but polarized script writing. And Hollywood would like R Kelly to be the "LADIES MAN" -- envisioning the Black man's sexual prowess. Some radio stations have even tried to use his own songs to incriminate him. Certainly Elvis' "Aint nothing but a HOUND DOG" was not used against him as groupies flocked around him granting him his sexual desires. What is the difference between R Kelly and Elvis Presley? They both married underaged women? Allegedly they both had sexual encounters with underaged groupies. The Black and White contrast shows that racism continues to pardon White artists, all the while demonizing Black artists. I cannot condone any young girl being taken advantage of by someone for sheer sexual pleasure. But let's be realistic are these girls entirely innocent? Is our society entirely innocent? Are the parents of these children entirely innocent? The question of sexuality must be addressed. Since we have so many radio disc jockeys who are commenting against R Kelly. If R Kelly is so bad, I challenge the radio stations to stop playing ALL music that treat women like pieces of meat. Ouch! I guess Record Labels and payola can allow for certain sexuality and exploitation of music, but do not condone the acts? Let's face it most of the Music channels that stuffs sexuality down our youth's throats cater to the ages that R Kelly supposedly sexed: 13-18. This society has taken away age appropriate recreational activities and replaced it with sex. Re-creating one's SELF is an excellent activity. Yet this society does not empower the spirit of young girls to know when they should engage in an intimate activity. Young girls do not have enough self worth to even be discriminating in their sexual choices. Sex education is taught in such a mechanical fashion in our homes, in our children's school. It should not be called SEX EDUCATION. It should be called: DISEASE and BABY PREVENTION. The classes teach how to not get pregnant, and how to not get a disease, but the classes and our homes do not teach how to love ourselves. Young girls are not given the tools to love themselves, so they participate in sexual activities-yearning for some type of display of affection. We should not be so shocked when 13 year olds and 14 year olds are sexually active. This society displays and sells sex through out every avenue: television shows, videos, commercials, radio stations. Assuming what the media claims to be true, let's ask: Why would R Kelly think that having sex with teenage girls to be an appropriate act? Let's look at the historical implication of sexual activity and Black men. Black men have been trained to be studs and connect on a sexual level. Surprising? Since slavery Blacks did not receive a seminar on how to overcome the brutal acts of slavery. We internalized the N word as a term of endearment, and it was a term of hate used against us. Black men have taken pride in sexual stereotypes that they are pimps, hoes and etc.. Because Black men are not able to compete against their oppressor in the global, economic and military sectors, they have resorted to conquering vaginas. This generation that wants to conquer has resorted to conquering Black women. That's all this society will "allow" them to safely conquer. The Hip Hop generation have managed to conquer the sexual elements, but have not conquered the political elements of society. White supremacists are aware of this. Yet they still want to display and show the level of control they have over OUR artists. IF R Kelly is not innocent, we can certainly put parents on trial, high school on trial, this society on trial - Those young girls were not raped ladies and gentlemen. They got the impression from someone that it was ok to give their bodies up so willingly without a thought that this may be wrong, until they confessed to someone that had enough sense to discern that something was wrong. I do not know if R Kelly is guilty or not, I did not look at the tapes, or read the court documents. Yet we are an interdependent society, so there is not one individual to be blamed. This entire social structure (White supremacy) benefits from exploiting insecure young girls. Should R Kelly be the scape goat for a music industry that uses sex to sell billions of records? Radio disc jockeys who are proclaiming this "Holier than thou" attitude amaze me. After they make a commentary about R Kelly's perverted acts, they put on a song that is laced with sexual overtones. All I have to say to them is: If R Kelly's Ignition cannot be played, Why wasn't Elvis: I aint nothing but a Hound dog protested? written by Shemia What's Your Opinion on this article? About the author: Shemia Miller is a global consultant for Black businesses. MBA in Global Management and International affairs. She is the marketing director for Here After Records (www.hereafter-records.com). Her upcoming book that will hit stores such as Barnes and Nobles and Amazon.com entitled "What White Women Won't Tell Us" has scholars anticipating great dialogue. A column writer for Chuck D's uplifting site RAP STATION (www.rapstation.com). To contact her email shemiamiller@yahho.com mistermaxxx | |
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mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. Hope they bring that show to Europe, must see IMO. | |
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Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. Hope they bring that show to Europe, must see IMO. mistermaxxx | |
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mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. Hope they bring that show to Europe, must see IMO. Right, "What Would You Do" while not messing with Contagious etc is a nice chilled number, a full LP controlled by R will be interesting to hear. | |
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Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. Hope they bring that show to Europe, must see IMO. Right, "What Would You Do" while not messing with Contagious etc is a nice chilled number, a full LP controlled by R will be interesting to hear. mistermaxxx | |
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Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. mistermaxxx | |
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mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. All this good stuff coming, yet on the other thread it was disputed that he's the VIP of R&B right now? | |
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Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. All this good stuff coming, yet on the other thread it was disputed that he's the VIP of R&B right now? mistermaxxx | |
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Essence said: Harlepolis said: Whats the reason behind the beef between him and his protege female voaclist "Sparkle"?? the woman also was screamin loud in some radio station saying that one of the girls he messed with is her niece,,,lol
You've answered your own question, the 14/15 year old girl in the video is supposedly her neice, band member's daughter and R's god-daughter. Combine this with post-colaboration bitching and R apparently had relationship with Sparkle too so bitterness there also. She needs to understand were it not for "Be Careful" nobody would be inviting her to do radio interviews at all though... great song R laced her with. --- Who the fuck cares why Sparkle is mad at R Kelly. If that was my niece I would find some pipeheads to be the living hell out Mr.Kelly. I am not going to go into the addtional nudie pictures of him with other young girls. This guy is a hack not a musical genius and when he goes to jail the public will no longer have to listen to his shity music. | |
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mistermaxxx said: Essence said: from DaveyD.com:
RIGHT ON Essence for Bringing this.everybody knows the Man is trying to Sabotage The King of R&B's Career.R.Kelly got some Issues but they trying to use Him as a Target for other folks in the music Business.Led Zepplin did the same things that R.Kelly has been found to have done.Damn Right it's a Racist Double Standard.but you know what?Folks Like Myself don't care because they can't stop the R.Kelly Hustle.The Baddest MF in Da Biz Today can't be Faded.it gets so tiring because Black Folks are always Blamed for Every Damn Thing wrong with this Country&yet We gotta Set all of the Trends&Keep the Plantation Clean,&Smile like 400 Years don't Matter??The Difference Between R Kelly and Elvis Presley? Did the radio station stop playing Elvis Presley's music when he married his 13 year old wife? Did anyone boycott Miami Vice when they found out that Don Johnson was living with a 14 year old? Did the picket signs raise in fury when Woody Allen was accused of sleeping with his adopted daughter? We can say NO to all those rhetorical questions. So why is R Kelly being persecuted as an artist? I can tell you why the R & B/Hip Hop star is being ridiculed. The hypocrisy that colors this circumstance can be traced back to the racial overtones of slavery. White men created a hysteria that Black men were oversexed animals who could not be left alone with their "innocent" white women. As music can penetrate the suburbs, the virgin snow white life style that separates the Black urban reality from an elite White privilege. Music told the story and continues to tell the story of the Black man's reality and has raised a generation of White women and men that are more sympathetic to the Black community. They are no longer too content on buying that Blacks are nothing but animals. So there should not be a surprise that the White elite ruling class will create a hypocritical stance in terms of OUR R Kelly. The media is nothing but polarized script writing. And Hollywood would like R Kelly to be the "LADIES MAN" -- envisioning the Black man's sexual prowess. Some radio stations have even tried to use his own songs to incriminate him. Certainly Elvis' "Aint nothing but a HOUND DOG" was not used against him as groupies flocked around him granting him his sexual desires. What is the difference between R Kelly and Elvis Presley? They both married underaged women? Allegedly they both had sexual encounters with underaged groupies. The Black and White contrast shows that racism continues to pardon White artists, all the while demonizing Black artists. I cannot condone any young girl being taken advantage of by someone for sheer sexual pleasure. But let's be realistic are these girls entirely innocent? Is our society entirely innocent? Are the parents of these children entirely innocent? The question of sexuality must be addressed. Since we have so many radio disc jockeys who are commenting against R Kelly. If R Kelly is so bad, I challenge the radio stations to stop playing ALL music that treat women like pieces of meat. Ouch! I guess Record Labels and payola can allow for certain sexuality and exploitation of music, but do not condone the acts? Let's face it most of the Music channels that stuffs sexuality down our youth's throats cater to the ages that R Kelly supposedly sexed: 13-18. This society has taken away age appropriate recreational activities and replaced it with sex. Re-creating one's SELF is an excellent activity. Yet this society does not empower the spirit of young girls to know when they should engage in an intimate activity. Young girls do not have enough self worth to even be discriminating in their sexual choices. Sex education is taught in such a mechanical fashion in our homes, in our children's school. It should not be called SEX EDUCATION. It should be called: DISEASE and BABY PREVENTION. The classes teach how to not get pregnant, and how to not get a disease, but the classes and our homes do not teach how to love ourselves. Young girls are not given the tools to love themselves, so they participate in sexual activities-yearning for some type of display of affection. We should not be so shocked when 13 year olds and 14 year olds are sexually active. This society displays and sells sex through out every avenue: television shows, videos, commercials, radio stations. Assuming what the media claims to be true, let's ask: Why would R Kelly think that having sex with teenage girls to be an appropriate act? Let's look at the historical implication of sexual activity and Black men. Black men have been trained to be studs and connect on a sexual level. Surprising? Since slavery Blacks did not receive a seminar on how to overcome the brutal acts of slavery. We internalized the N word as a term of endearment, and it was a term of hate used against us. Black men have taken pride in sexual stereotypes that they are pimps, hoes and etc.. Because Black men are not able to compete against their oppressor in the global, economic and military sectors, they have resorted to conquering vaginas. This generation that wants to conquer has resorted to conquering Black women. That's all this society will "allow" them to safely conquer. The Hip Hop generation have managed to conquer the sexual elements, but have not conquered the political elements of society. White supremacists are aware of this. Yet they still want to display and show the level of control they have over OUR artists. IF R Kelly is not innocent, we can certainly put parents on trial, high school on trial, this society on trial - Those young girls were not raped ladies and gentlemen. They got the impression from someone that it was ok to give their bodies up so willingly without a thought that this may be wrong, until they confessed to someone that had enough sense to discern that something was wrong. I do not know if R Kelly is guilty or not, I did not look at the tapes, or read the court documents. Yet we are an interdependent society, so there is not one individual to be blamed. This entire social structure (White supremacy) benefits from exploiting insecure young girls. Should R Kelly be the scape goat for a music industry that uses sex to sell billions of records? Radio disc jockeys who are proclaiming this "Holier than thou" attitude amaze me. After they make a commentary about R Kelly's perverted acts, they put on a song that is laced with sexual overtones. All I have to say to them is: If R Kelly's Ignition cannot be played, Why wasn't Elvis: I aint nothing but a Hound dog protested? written by Shemia What's Your Opinion on this article? About the author: Shemia Miller is a global consultant for Black businesses. MBA in Global Management and International affairs. She is the marketing director for Here After Records (www.hereafter-records.com). Her upcoming book that will hit stores such as Barnes and Nobles and Amazon.com entitled "What White Women Won't Tell Us" has scholars anticipating great dialogue. A column writer for Chuck D's uplifting site RAP STATION (www.rapstation.com). To contact her email shemiamiller@yahho.com --- If you are blackman you should be ashamed of yourself for defending this creep. R Kelly is not Elvis or Don Johnson. R Kelly is a blackman in American if he thinks people are just going to forget this shit he needs to come down to reality. Race plays a role in this mess but, if Mr. Kelly had keep his dick in his pants or at least away from underage girls who would not be in this trouble. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions and get some professional help. | |
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mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. All this good stuff coming, yet on the other thread it was disputed that he's the VIP of R&B right now? http://www.saveoursoul.nl For the "What Would You Do" video link. Notice R spying Mr Biggs' lady Asia at the end. Feel a showdown coming on? hehe | |
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laurarichardson said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: from DaveyD.com:
RIGHT ON Essence for Bringing this.everybody knows the Man is trying to Sabotage The King of R&B's Career.R.Kelly got some Issues but they trying to use Him as a Target for other folks in the music Business.Led Zepplin did the same things that R.Kelly has been found to have done.Damn Right it's a Racist Double Standard.but you know what?Folks Like Myself don't care because they can't stop the R.Kelly Hustle.The Baddest MF in Da Biz Today can't be Faded.it gets so tiring because Black Folks are always Blamed for Every Damn Thing wrong with this Country&yet We gotta Set all of the Trends&Keep the Plantation Clean,&Smile like 400 Years don't Matter??The Difference Between R Kelly and Elvis Presley? Did the radio station stop playing Elvis Presley's music when he married his 13 year old wife? Did anyone boycott Miami Vice when they found out that Don Johnson was living with a 14 year old? Did the picket signs raise in fury when Woody Allen was accused of sleeping with his adopted daughter? We can say NO to all those rhetorical questions. So why is R Kelly being persecuted as an artist? I can tell you why the R & B/Hip Hop star is being ridiculed. The hypocrisy that colors this circumstance can be traced back to the racial overtones of slavery. White men created a hysteria that Black men were oversexed animals who could not be left alone with their "innocent" white women. As music can penetrate the suburbs, the virgin snow white life style that separates the Black urban reality from an elite White privilege. Music told the story and continues to tell the story of the Black man's reality and has raised a generation of White women and men that are more sympathetic to the Black community. They are no longer too content on buying that Blacks are nothing but animals. So there should not be a surprise that the White elite ruling class will create a hypocritical stance in terms of OUR R Kelly. The media is nothing but polarized script writing. And Hollywood would like R Kelly to be the "LADIES MAN" -- envisioning the Black man's sexual prowess. Some radio stations have even tried to use his own songs to incriminate him. Certainly Elvis' "Aint nothing but a HOUND DOG" was not used against him as groupies flocked around him granting him his sexual desires. What is the difference between R Kelly and Elvis Presley? They both married underaged women? Allegedly they both had sexual encounters with underaged groupies. The Black and White contrast shows that racism continues to pardon White artists, all the while demonizing Black artists. I cannot condone any young girl being taken advantage of by someone for sheer sexual pleasure. But let's be realistic are these girls entirely innocent? Is our society entirely innocent? Are the parents of these children entirely innocent? The question of sexuality must be addressed. Since we have so many radio disc jockeys who are commenting against R Kelly. If R Kelly is so bad, I challenge the radio stations to stop playing ALL music that treat women like pieces of meat. Ouch! I guess Record Labels and payola can allow for certain sexuality and exploitation of music, but do not condone the acts? Let's face it most of the Music channels that stuffs sexuality down our youth's throats cater to the ages that R Kelly supposedly sexed: 13-18. This society has taken away age appropriate recreational activities and replaced it with sex. Re-creating one's SELF is an excellent activity. Yet this society does not empower the spirit of young girls to know when they should engage in an intimate activity. Young girls do not have enough self worth to even be discriminating in their sexual choices. Sex education is taught in such a mechanical fashion in our homes, in our children's school. It should not be called SEX EDUCATION. It should be called: DISEASE and BABY PREVENTION. The classes teach how to not get pregnant, and how to not get a disease, but the classes and our homes do not teach how to love ourselves. Young girls are not given the tools to love themselves, so they participate in sexual activities-yearning for some type of display of affection. We should not be so shocked when 13 year olds and 14 year olds are sexually active. This society displays and sells sex through out every avenue: television shows, videos, commercials, radio stations. Assuming what the media claims to be true, let's ask: Why would R Kelly think that having sex with teenage girls to be an appropriate act? Let's look at the historical implication of sexual activity and Black men. Black men have been trained to be studs and connect on a sexual level. Surprising? Since slavery Blacks did not receive a seminar on how to overcome the brutal acts of slavery. We internalized the N word as a term of endearment, and it was a term of hate used against us. Black men have taken pride in sexual stereotypes that they are pimps, hoes and etc.. Because Black men are not able to compete against their oppressor in the global, economic and military sectors, they have resorted to conquering vaginas. This generation that wants to conquer has resorted to conquering Black women. That's all this society will "allow" them to safely conquer. The Hip Hop generation have managed to conquer the sexual elements, but have not conquered the political elements of society. White supremacists are aware of this. Yet they still want to display and show the level of control they have over OUR artists. IF R Kelly is not innocent, we can certainly put parents on trial, high school on trial, this society on trial - Those young girls were not raped ladies and gentlemen. They got the impression from someone that it was ok to give their bodies up so willingly without a thought that this may be wrong, until they confessed to someone that had enough sense to discern that something was wrong. I do not know if R Kelly is guilty or not, I did not look at the tapes, or read the court documents. Yet we are an interdependent society, so there is not one individual to be blamed. This entire social structure (White supremacy) benefits from exploiting insecure young girls. Should R Kelly be the scape goat for a music industry that uses sex to sell billions of records? Radio disc jockeys who are proclaiming this "Holier than thou" attitude amaze me. After they make a commentary about R Kelly's perverted acts, they put on a song that is laced with sexual overtones. All I have to say to them is: If R Kelly's Ignition cannot be played, Why wasn't Elvis: I aint nothing but a Hound dog protested? written by Shemia What's Your Opinion on this article? About the author: Shemia Miller is a global consultant for Black businesses. MBA in Global Management and International affairs. She is the marketing director for Here After Records (www.hereafter-records.com). Her upcoming book that will hit stores such as Barnes and Nobles and Amazon.com entitled "What White Women Won't Tell Us" has scholars anticipating great dialogue. A column writer for Chuck D's uplifting site RAP STATION (www.rapstation.com). To contact her email shemiamiller@yahho.com --- If you are blackman you should be ashamed of yourself for defending this creep. R Kelly is not Elvis or Don Johnson. R Kelly is a blackman in American if he thinks people are just going to forget this shit he needs to come down to reality. Race plays a role in this mess but, if Mr. Kelly had keep his dick in his pants or at least away from underage girls who would not be in this trouble. He needs to take responsibilty for his actions and get some professional help. mistermaxxx | |
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Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. All this good stuff coming, yet on the other thread it was disputed that he's the VIP of R&B right now? http://www.saveoursoul.nl For the "What Would You Do" video link. Notice R spying Mr Biggs' lady Asia at the end. Feel a showdown coming on? hehe mistermaxxx | |
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NuPwrSoul said: That's his brother, Aaron. No really. It was his brother. Didn't you hear? It was his brother.
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mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. All this good stuff coming, yet on the other thread it was disputed that he's the VIP of R&B right now? http://www.saveoursoul.nl For the "What Would You Do" video link. Notice R spying Mr Biggs' lady Asia at the end. Feel a showdown coming on? hehe --- I bet you would not defend him if the girl was your niece or sister. I love me some black folks but, I hate ignorant black folks. Let's continue to blame the man for our actions when we are wrong. Sounds like a cop-out to me. I hope you enjoy the Chocolate Factory because I think Mr. Kelly is going to be busy with his new girlfriends in prison. | |
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mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. All this good stuff coming, yet on the other thread it was disputed that he's the VIP of R&B right now? http://www.saveoursoul.nl For the "What Would You Do" video link. Notice R spying Mr Biggs' lady Asia at the end. Feel a showdown coming on? hehe Hehehe I think Ronald has lost all touch with reality. To me the whole "Mr Biggs" thing is trip out humour combined with tight soul jams but I have visions of Ron refusing to answer to his old name anymore and only "Mr Biggs". I saw he was getting dissed for wearing sports jersey on TV other day when he's apparently "too old", he ditched his wife and seems to take the new pimp persona very seriously... to be fair though how many other names from soul's golden era are still commercially viable? R pulled a masterstroke in fashioning a place in the modern charts for the Isley Bros. Hell, pop music conventions would have RK himself washed up and out the game by now, but he's rolled with the punches and kept in touch with every new generation thus far... | |
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laurarichardson said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. All this good stuff coming, yet on the other thread it was disputed that he's the VIP of R&B right now? http://www.saveoursoul.nl For the "What Would You Do" video link. Notice R spying Mr Biggs' lady Asia at the end. Feel a showdown coming on? hehe --- I bet you would not defend him if the girl was your niece or sister. I love me some black folks but, I hate ignorant black folks. Let's continue to blame the man for our actions when we are wrong. Sounds like a cop-out to me. I hope you enjoy the Chocolate Factory because I think Mr. Kelly is going to be busy with his new girlfriends in prison. mistermaxxx | |
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mistermaxxx said: everybody knows the Man is trying to Sabotage The King of R&B's Career.R.Kelly got some Issues but they trying to use Him as a Target for other folks in the music Business. MISTERMAXXX, WITHOUT PREJUDICE...
If anyone is determined to sabotage the career of R. Kelly then it's the man himself. The differences between R.Kelly and Elvis Presley are of little significance to me (afterall, what do I care for Jailhouse Rock and Blue Hawaii?) and I don't wish to comment on article that claims "black men are trained to be studs". But IMO R.Kelly is a man in serious need of help...and not the kind that will help pay his legal fees. I'm afraid that in R.Kelly's world age ain't nothing but a number...and a piece of ass on the side. My two kobo  M.2.K
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Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. All this good stuff coming, yet on the other thread it was disputed that he's the VIP of R&B right now? http://www.saveoursoul.nl For the "What Would You Do" video link. Notice R spying Mr Biggs' lady Asia at the end. Feel a showdown coming on? hehe Hehehe I think Ronald has lost all touch with reality. To me the whole "Mr Biggs" thing is trip out humour combined with tight soul jams but I have visions of Ron refusing to answer to his old name anymore and only "Mr Biggs". I saw he was getting dissed for wearing sports jersey on TV other day when he's apparently "too old", he ditched his wife and seems to take the new pimp persona very seriously... to be fair though how many other names from soul's golden era are still commercially viable? R pulled a masterstroke in fashioning a place in the modern charts for the Isley Bros. Hell, pop music conventions would have RK himself washed up and out the game by now, but he's rolled with the punches and kept in touch with every new generation thus far... mistermaxxx | |
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mistermaxxx said: laurarichardson said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. All this good stuff coming, yet on the other thread it was disputed that he's the VIP of R&B right now? http://www.saveoursoul.nl For the "What Would You Do" video link. Notice R spying Mr Biggs' lady Asia at the end. Feel a showdown coming on? hehe --- I bet you would not defend him if the girl was your niece or sister. I love me some black folks but, I hate ignorant black folks. Let's continue to blame the man for our actions when we are wrong. Sounds like a cop-out to me. I hope you enjoy the Chocolate Factory because I think Mr. Kelly is going to be busy with his new girlfriends in prison. first of all My Daughter,Niece&Sister aren't Star Struck&No Amount of Money is gonna repair what is Wrong.but you don't put yourself out there like that.I don't Condone what He did&whatnot as a Person but I truly Dig&Respect Him as a Artist.His Situation ain't even in the top 50 in that Business.He just got caught.I'll always Buy His Music&I did back when He&Ayliyah were together as well.ain't nothing new there with Him.it's been One of the Industry's best Open Secret's.who is to say that nayone would even bother Messing with R.Kelly should He face Lock-Down?and more than anything He needs Help to deal with this.I don't trust the System&Don't believe it.Rob Lowe got caught on Tape where is the Hate of Him being on "the West Wing"? Roman Polanski Oscar Nominations,DVD/Video Sales&Money Box-Office Money etc...&He can't even enter the USA but He still is Rewarded what gives? Woody Allen married His Adopted Daughter&Was Banging Her at age 16 or 17 nothing stops Him&BTW I Think "Annie Hall" is one of the Greatest FIlms Ever.Woody Brings Her to NEW York Knicks Game front-Court&nobody says Jack.so please nobody should become Holy than Thou against R.Kelly when it's allowed amongest others without anybody trying take away there Creativity&Freedom. --- "You don't put yourself out there like that!!!" Blaming a child instead of an adult. Implying that whatever has been going on in the industry for years is o.k to keep going on. You need to really think about this shit before you type it. Who cares about all of the white guys you mentioned. Yes, they should all be in jail but, there not. We all know that race plays a big role in everything in the USA. R Kelly is a black man he should have been smart enough to get some help or at least not be dumb enough to tape this shit. For your information child molesters get the shit beat out them in prison. A lot of people in prison have been molested and they do not like these scum bags. | |
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Much respect and love 4 Miss Shemia. That sistah def said whats exactly on my mind. Its racial game,,alot of white folks did what and worse than what OJ, Tyson and R.Kelly did but they couldn't handle it when they see a brutha making a name of himself. Hell, I don't see nobody saying jack about Good ol' Elvis 
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mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Essence said: mistermaxxx said: Ronald Isley came on 106&park&gave it up To R.Kelly.that speaks VOlumes IMHO.what R.Kelly has been able to do with Ronald Isley alone speaks on the Man's Genius&Soulful Ways.
He said R's writing and producing all of the Isleys new one? Will be interesting to hear, the only acts he's done that before are Aaliyah and Sparkle's debuts. All this good stuff coming, yet on the other thread it was disputed that he's the VIP of R&B right now? http://www.saveoursoul.nl For the "What Would You Do" video link. Notice R spying Mr Biggs' lady Asia at the end. Feel a showdown coming on? hehe Hehehe I think Ronald has lost all touch with reality. To me the whole "Mr Biggs" thing is trip out humour combined with tight soul jams but I have visions of Ron refusing to answer to his old name anymore and only "Mr Biggs". I saw he was getting dissed for wearing sports jersey on TV other day when he's apparently "too old", he ditched his wife and seems to take the new pimp persona very seriously... to be fair though how many other names from soul's golden era are still commercially viable? R pulled a masterstroke in fashioning a place in the modern charts for the Isley Bros. Hell, pop music conventions would have RK himself washed up and out the game by now, but he's rolled with the punches and kept in touch with every new generation thus far... Feeling your points, although you know I dug a good amount of R's debut LP your right there was little sign of the true artist he'd become. Teddy's dropoff is sad to see, he hasn't adjusted well in the 90s, classics like "No Diggety" aside... | |
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