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Thread started 04/27/13 2:16pm

Adisa

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Groups where the lead singer wasn't even the best singer in the group...

Other than New Edition who else falls into this category?
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Reply #1 posted 04/27/13 2:47pm

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Adisa said:

Other than New Edition who else falls into this category?

Well this is a tough one, some would say the Beatles but you cant say there was a lead in that group, it was a co-lead, but interesting some say George Harrison was the best. So mainly there people go back and forth with John and Paul but neither was the leader. Ironically its hard to name one since most of what im thinking are groups with no- real leader. But you could say Phil Collins, though he wasnt the singer till peter left he was in the band, i prefer Phil's voice over Peter just because with Peter you gotta be in the mood to listen to Peter, you cant just turn on his music everyday.

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Reply #2 posted 04/27/13 4:11pm

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lastdecember said:

Adisa said:

Other than New Edition who else falls into this category?

Well this is a tough one, some would say the Beatles but you cant say there was a lead in that group, it was a co-lead, but interesting some say George Harrison was the best. So mainly there people go back and forth with John and Paul but neither was the leader. Ironically its hard to name one since most of what im thinking are groups with no- real leader. But you could say Phil Collins, though he wasnt the singer till peter left he was in the band, i prefer Phil's voice over Peter just because with Peter you gotta be in the mood to listen to Peter, you cant just turn on his music everyday.

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Agree with everything you said.

A lot of times even groups have co-leads one of them is still regarded as the main co-lead. Like N'Sync...Justin was the main vocalist even JC sang quite a bit as well. O'Jay's kinda fall in this category also. So it can be a tad confusing, I suppose.

Other groups where the lead wasn't the best in the group:

N'Sync as I just mentioned

TLC

Cameo

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Reply #3 posted 04/27/13 4:44pm

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The group that immediately comes to mind is the Supremes.

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Reply #4 posted 04/27/13 6:35pm

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AlexdeParis said:

The group that immediately comes to mind is the Supremes.

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Reply #5 posted 04/27/13 7:29pm

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The Cars.

Ben Orr's voice was a lot nicer to listen to than Ric Ocasek's.

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Reply #6 posted 04/27/13 7:46pm

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John Frusciante when he was in the Red Hot Chili Peppers...

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Reply #7 posted 04/27/13 8:15pm

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the smashing pumpkins. james iha and darcy had better singing voices than corgan

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Reply #8 posted 04/27/13 8:17pm

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John Frusciante when he was in the Red Hot Chili Peppers...

That is the one that immediately came to mind smile

I would also add Michael Anthony in the early Van Halen days.

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Reply #9 posted 04/27/13 8:59pm

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I'd have to say Shakespear's Sister is one.

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Reply #10 posted 04/27/13 9:47pm

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Dave Mustaine from Megadeth

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Reply #11 posted 04/28/13 12:28am

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Pete Townshend - The Who

Noel Gallagher - Oasis

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Reply #12 posted 04/28/13 6:33am

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Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

John Frusciante when he was in the Red Hot Chili Peppers...

That is the one that immediately came to mind smile

hmmm Really? I'm not sure I agree with that one. Maybe because the little bit Ive seen of John's singing on youtube during RHCP concerts.

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Reply #13 posted 04/28/13 8:04am

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The Wailers, maybe. Peter Tosh's voice has a richness and a depth that Bob's lacks.

(I do like all three of them as singers, though, I have to say - and they all made pretty respectable solo efforts.)

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Reply #14 posted 04/28/13 1:04pm

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The Wailers, maybe. Peter Tosh's voice has a richness and a depth that Bob's lacks.

(I do like all three of them as singers, though, I have to say - and they all made pretty respectable solo efforts.)

I do dig Peter's voice better than Bob's and Bunny's too. Bunny was the one who produced the vocal harmonies in the group and I think he's the reason the group was called the Wailers in the first place. Plus his real name is actually Neville Livingston. "Bunny" was a nickname and he just added Wailer as his stage name, which I think is pretty cool.

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Reply #15 posted 04/28/13 1:04pm

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Adisa said:

Gunsnhalen said:

That is the one that immediately came to mind smile

hmmm Really? I'm not sure I agree with that one. Maybe because the little bit Ive seen of John's singing on youtube during RHCP concerts.

I say that because of the harmonies he gave to RHCP songs. I heard a few solo songs, he's got a really good voice in my opinion.

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Reply #16 posted 04/28/13 3:01pm

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Adisa said:

Gunsnhalen said:

That is the one that immediately came to mind smile

hmmm Really? I'm not sure I agree with that one. Maybe because the little bit Ive seen of John's singing on youtube during RHCP concerts.

This is a good example of his great background vocals and melodies cool

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Reply #18 posted 04/28/13 3:17pm

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You mean Dave Grohl > Kurt Cobain?

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Deep Purple Mk III and IV. David Coverdale had a great voice but I think Glenn Hughes sounded even better.
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Reply #20 posted 04/28/13 3:56pm

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Deep Purple Mk III and IV. David Coverdale had a great voice but I think Glenn Hughes sounded even better.

Whhaaaa hughes over Coverdale?

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Timmy84 said:

deebee said:

The Wailers, maybe. Peter Tosh's voice has a richness and a depth that Bob's lacks.

(I do like all three of them as singers, though, I have to say - and they all made pretty respectable solo efforts.)

I do dig Peter's voice better than Bob's and Bunny's too. Bunny was the one who produced the vocal harmonies in the group and I think he's the reason the group was called the Wailers in the first place. Plus his real name is actually Neville Livingston. "Bunny" was a nickname and he just added Wailer as his stage name, which I think is pretty cool.

Neville O'Riley Livingston, at that! And Winston Hubert McIntosh. I'm kind of glad they adapted them to something more self-defined, tbh, since those names always seem to have such a ring of British colonialism about them to me. (No wonder they all became so partial to Marcus Garvey! lol)

The harmonies are one of the things that make the early records especially, for me. There's a slightly looser vibe than their heroes The Impressions or groups like that, but I really like the way their voices blend, and the way they put these delicate little falsettos in there. There's something pure and idealistic about it, and I always like that when it's genuine.

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Gunsnhalen said:



KingSausage said:


Deep Purple Mk III and IV. David Coverdale had a great voice but I think Glenn Hughes sounded even better.

Whhaaaa hughes over Coverdale?




I think Hughes had a better voice, technically speaking. biggrin
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Reply #23 posted 04/28/13 4:35pm

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deebee said:

Timmy84 said:

I do dig Peter's voice better than Bob's and Bunny's too. Bunny was the one who produced the vocal harmonies in the group and I think he's the reason the group was called the Wailers in the first place. Plus his real name is actually Neville Livingston. "Bunny" was a nickname and he just added Wailer as his stage name, which I think is pretty cool.

Neville O'Riley Livingston, at that! And Winston Hubert McIntosh. I'm kind of glad they adapted them to something more self-defined, tbh, since those names always seem to have such a ring of British colonialism about them to me. (No wonder they all became so partial to Marcus Garvey! lol)

The harmonies are one of the things that make the early records especially, for me. There's a slightly looser vibe than their heroes The Impressions or groups like that, but I really like the way their voices blend, and the way they put these delicate little falsettos in there. There's something pure and idealistic about it, and I always like that when it's genuine.

nod Yeah the early Wailers stuff is tight. They surely had their education in doo-wop 101 lol

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Reply #24 posted 04/28/13 4:45pm

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Timmy84 said:

chrisslope9 said:

Nirvana

You mean Dave Grohl > Kurt Cobain?

i find foo fighters extremely boring

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Reply #25 posted 04/28/13 6:29pm

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Reply #26 posted 04/28/13 8:10pm

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I was going to say the Supremes, but since someone already mentioned them I will add Fleetwood Mac. Though Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks were the co-lead singers, Christine McVie actually had a better voice.

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Reply #27 posted 04/28/13 9:31pm

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* I don't know that Brendan Benson could be called the lead vocalist of the Raconteurs, but to the extent he may be, I actually prefer Jack White's voice.

* Wendy Melvoin takes lead on most of her material with Lisa Coleman, and for years I thought that was for the best. After White Flags, though, I gotta say I appreciate Lisa's voice at least as much. Two very different textures used to good effect.

* I believe Charlie Brown was responsible for putting together Leaders of the New School. Busta, however, was the superior M.C.

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Reply #28 posted 04/28/13 10:07pm

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Mick Jones over Joe Strummer in The Clash, one could argue. I won't argue it, but somebody could.

They kind of remind me of Pete Townsend and Roger Daltrey in The Who. Jones & Townsend have cleaner voices, but Strummer and Daltrey have more grit.

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Reply #29 posted 04/29/13 9:09am

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Jagar said:

The Cars.

Ben Orr's voice was a lot nicer to listen to than Ric Ocasek's.

Good one.

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