beyonce. can we talk about a. keys behind for 3 seconds?

goodwillt7 said:

musicjunky318 said:

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did she put a dot over the e in Phenomenal? lol Probably wasn't sure if it was an i or an e so she said, "what the hell it's both" lol

What does she mean it's a proud day for African American women? It clearly states in her new commercial that she is Native American and French!

By the way, I loved how after DC3 performed their segment, she said "give it up for Kelly & Michelle". Basically dismissing them so she could take over again. Gotta love it!

BrazilianOnRaspberryBeret said:

I saw her live at the Sasha Fierce tour. I loved that tour. The songs (I think she has an AWESOME repertoire, some of the best rnb/pop songs of the last 10 or 15 years!), she sung GREATLY live, the outfits, the choreographies.

She seems to have had poor preparation for this Super Bowl performance though. The beginning staging was exactly the same as in the Sasha Fierce tour (only she sung Love on top instead of Deja vu to prelude Crazy in Love), very uncreative. All the other songs seemed to have been but randomly there. And the ending, with Single Ladies followed by her singing Halo on her knees, was exactly the same as that tour AGAIN. She used a lot her iconic choreographies (regarless if she's a good dancer or not - iconic choreographies have been made for her songs), and that was like a reprise of the dances we all are tired of knowing from youtube and tv. And she did not blow me away with her singing this time, cause I know she COULD have, since she has proved so many times what a great live singer she is. The outfits did not have ANY visual impact for me. As for Destiny's Child, Kelly can sing (but is only an OK singer, must be said) and was looking STUNNING, and the other girl, well, ok (let's give her the chance of an ok), but Destiny's Child songs were all 99% sung by Beyoncé anyway, so to me is was pointless.

Finally, I'm a fan, but I was underwhelmed, and thought the show was poorly conceived and performed.

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I preferred Madonna's last year. I'm a fan of both and understand the two are very different talents. Madonna did not sing live as Beyoncé did (even though Beyoncé's singing was ok at most this time). Madonna could sing too, she was never a mind blowing singer live, but there are many examples that when she focus she can sing pretty decently live, and with feeling (especially ballads).

The problem is when Madonna thinks she should dance, she totally gives up singing and starts to dub, and that, sadly, what was happened in her Super Bowl performance. But Madonna's performance was more coherent, songwise, four songs (Vogue, Music, Give Me All Your Loving and Like a Prayer), each song illustrated with it's own image identity on stage. She used more wisely the space of the stage (and the shooting favored that movement). It was better, IMO. I know MJ dubbed too, which was absurd, if anyone could sing in the world, he could, but anyway...

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Right on! I also prefered Madonna's show last year. I thought she killed it. Vogue was so fierce, yes even though she lip synched, I thought it was more entertaining.

It was a predictable Beyonce performance.....alot of booty-shaking and hair flinging.....we've seen it all before

I change my mind. Madonna was better too. I'm bored with Beyonce's already.

nd33 said:

Not that I didn't think Beyonce was pretty boring as a musical act (mashup, blah), but all the big stars repeat their choreographed songs for many years. MJ, Janet, Madonna etc...

Why the heck would MJ rechoreograph Smooth Criminal anyways?

Maybe.

But MJ's an exception his dancing ALONE was worth more than one Super Bowl performance. He was one of the greatest dancers of all time. To see him do those amazing moves over and over again was a thrill because nobody else in the world could make them.

Now Beyoncé's repetition of SO MANY choreographies somewhat looked very boring, even though at some point, maybe when the songs were released or in the videos, those same choreographies were great. Or maybe they were boring, cause, all together, her choreographies, each and every one mainly focused on her sexyness, got to form an over-sexied dance set that fell very dull.

she didn't go as hard as usual. i wasn't into it. party would'a helped if it wasn't up there. her weave is still the same. a little different, i guess. her face shined. lost the booty some. hov is j-hova of the pop life. damn, i missed j. hud?

Madonna's was more entertaining.

BrazilianOnRaspberryBeret said:

nd33 said:

Not that I didn't think Beyonce was pretty boring as a musical act (mashup, blah), but all the big stars repeat their choreographed songs for many years. MJ, Janet, Madonna etc...

Why the heck would MJ rechoreograph Smooth Criminal anyways?

Maybe.

But MJ's an exception his dancing ALONE was worth more than one Super Bowl performance. He was one of the greatest dancers of all time. To see him do those amazing moves over and over again was a thrill because nobody else in the world could make them.

Now Beyoncé's repetition of SO MANY choreographies somewhat looked very boring, even though at some point, maybe when the songs were released or in the videos, those same choreographies were great. Or maybe they were boring, cause, all together, her choreographies, each and every one mainly focused on her sexyness, got to form an over-sexied dance set that fell very dull.

Yeah, the prob to me is not that she's doing the same routines, it's that the routines are pretty routine in the first place. ie nothing too memorable about them, unlike Smooth Criminal.

I vote Prince, Springsteen and MJ as the best.

I haven't seen that many Bouncy shows so I thought she was good but nothing earth shaking. Nice to see DC but I wondered why they turned down the mics on the other two girls?

Am I the only one who thought it was shorter than other halftime shows?

LMAO

Not a huge Beyonce fan by any means. But I thought she did a good job. I loved the visuals (So, she's playing the sex kitten-nothing wrong with that-although a new way of doing it would be nice)

Loved the dancers doing the dances with her. I think it was important that she do her 2 famous dances (Booty shaking[Formerly known as stripper booty dance then the Beyonce booty dance, then back to stripper booty dance] and her single ladies dance.) , because that's what the general public will know. But She underused Destiny Child. She should have ended with them together in some sort of climax, perhaps an extended single ladies. The reunion was misused and not enough. Clearly she didn't want anyone to steal her spotlight.

I agree we need to hear the other ladies sing-turn up the f'n mics people! lol

Prince's is still the best and not because I'm on this site.

I thought B herself was on fire, but by the end I was left with a "meh" about it all. Maybe she shouldn't have ended with Halo.

Madonna was better. She understands that it needs to be theatrical and gives you strong beginnings, middles, and endings. B kinda petered out by the end.

Her performance was underwhelming, borderline boring, mediocre and unmemorable. But it was nice to see Kelly and Michelle again. Madonna's show last year, as much as it was blasted by many, was much better. Nobody will remember this performance 5 years from now. That is all.

Serious question: why do people say she's a good dancer? All it seems she does is a) strut across the stage b) flip her hair c) writhe around on stage.

And that pretty much sums up her "dancing" in a nutshell. Beyonce is not a dancer. She struts, bootypops and weave toss.

Just resaw Prince's, Diana's and Madonna's.

Diana's was spectacular, I had not seen it yet. Altough I think she should have sung less songs, it was tiny bits of many songs. But she was looking gorgeous (she was 52 in 1996), the energy was great and she sung very well.

Prince's I'm speechless... You all know what it was. Just wanna mention the amazing guitar playing. Very happy that he put his guitar as a centerpiece to the performance and showed what a great guitarrist he is. Besides many other things that can be said about that show. Best SB show, at least of the ones I've seen, without a shadow of doubt!

Now, I was happy to see Madonna's again. Yes, I stick to what I've said before. Definately better than Beyoncé's. She understands music show theatrics like, maybe, no other pop star. The Blonde Ambition, The Girlie Show and The Confessions tour all have strong staging moments that stick to my head for years. The songs were well chosen, the stage movements were well thought, the visuals were great and identified each song. And I don't think she's lip synced all the show. Give Me All Your Loving, the chorus of Music and the Vogue rap she obviously did, but the Vogue main vocals are dfferent from the studio version - I think they were pre-recorded "live". But Like a Prayer, I have the strong impression she sung it live. And wow! She sung it very well!

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dancerella said:

Beyonce did a really good job

I can't believe how some people can say Madonna did a better job! Considering how old she is, the lack of energy is one thing I can understand from her performance but I'm sorry, hopping and clowning around with LMFAO and Nicki Minaj while lip-synching? I don't think so. The only good part of her show was the entrance and visuals.

I will say that Madonna is more creative than Beyonce, but she's just not a natural performer like Bee. Unlike Madonna, Beyonce gets it. From her facial expression to the way she struts, she's entertaining. Madonna just couldn't bring that level of charisma or stage presence to her performance but rather depended on guest performers and props.

And I thought it was pretty cool Beyonce didn't invite Jay-Z on stage during Crazy in Love (I actually made a bet with my friend about this and well I lost XD) It was all-female show and these girls were just full of energy. Overall, appropriate, energetic, entertaining performance for super bowl LOVED her outfit also!!

+ As always Kelly was giving her 120%. Michelle on the other hand....=/

And congrats to Ravens but thank you 49ers for reminding me what I truly love about watching football I had sooo much fun watching the game!!

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I felt the same way about it. The flow was wrong (messy), the information (the songs, the dances, the stage movements) were too much, and everything fell dull and confusing.

Besides it was monotone and repetitive, there was nothing new.

And, worst, she sung only with 5% of the life and the energy she's shown in her best live moments.

Mintchip said:

I'm a big believer in Beyonce, and it was meh for me as well. Not a great flow, it was a jumble, I got numbed out, and I couldn't understand shit. These Super Bowl halftimes need to calm the fuck down. Too much crammed into 15 minutes. Sing three songs well and say goodnight.

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I felt the same way about it. The flow was wrong (messy), the information (the songs, the dances, the stage movements) were too much, and everything fell dull and confusing.

Besides it was monotone and repetitive, there was nothing new.

And, worst, she sung only with 5% of the life and the energy she's shown in her best live moments.

GoldDolphin said:

I haven't seen it yet, but the comments on mostly white sites are very harsh. It's annoys me that certain white people are complaining about the fact they were black, when if they were white- nobody would care. I guess they wanted to see Britney Spears...

Are people saying this on the web really? that's shocking.

nd33 said:

goodwillt7 said:

did she put a dot over the e in Phenomenal? lol Probably wasn't sure if it was an i or an e so she said, "what the hell it's both" lol

She misspelled it "phenominal", then changed the i to a capital e. Look at the other e's, all lower case.

This investigation, is a wrap.

You're right!

Emancipation89 said:

GoldDolphin said:

Of course it's a proud day for African-American women because they were in charge of the whole show. I haven't seen it yet, but the comments on mostly white sites are very harsh. It's annoys me that certain white people are complaining about the fact they were black, when if they were white- nobody would care. I guess they wanted to see Britney Spears... And being African-American is being a mixture of things right? It's an ethnicity. Like many black Creoles in new orleans and louisiana, Beyonce feels connected to her mothers heritage but is still identified with African-Americans. I have creole in my family and just because you claim that heritage, doesn't make you any less black.

...what kind of crazy websites do you go to? You need to STOP going there hun, it's only a waste of your time & energy! I used to get really worked up about those random hatred I read online but now I realize it's always going to be there no matter what I do so I just try my best to avoid that kind of negative energy in general It's just not worth it!

You don't have to go to flaky websites. Go to Twitter and type in Beyonce + Nigger and see how many hits you get back.

She can claim Indian and French all she wants but America still knows what she is. Black folks are the only people who think if we kiss, and dance, and scratch the obvious will be forgotten.

Me and my girl miscarousel talked about this a few months back on here.

NaughtyKitty said:

Her performance was underwhelming, borderline boring, mediocre and unmemorable. But it was nice to see Kelly and Michelle again. Madonna's show last year, as much as it was blasted by many, was much better. Nobody will remember this performance 5 years from now. That is all.

Serious question: why do people say she's a good dancer? All it seems she does is a) strut across the stage b) flip her hair c) writhe around on stage.

And that pretty much sums up her "dancing" in a nutshell. Beyonce is not a dancer. She struts, bootypops and weave toss.

I dont even like Madonna's SB performance and I think Madonna was 10x better.

The visuals, the cohesiveness of the songs, the wardrobe, etc everything was better.

Beyonce is SO boring. Anybody can strunt down the stage, toss their hair and booty pop that doesnt necessarily make someone more talented or have more charisma. Beyonce is not a natural performer, she tries way to hard, and she is not moving as a singer.

Prince and Michael Jackson have the best half times in my book. I have to look at Diana's and the other mentions.

Also, if somebody who is BLACK is claiming to be Native American/ French that means they DONT identify with being African American. Creole is not a race, it is a culture of people.

I have white and indian in my family but BOTH my parents are black. So you mean to tell me that there is nothing wrong with me claiming to be white JUST because that is in my heritage/generationa line?

BULLSHIT and its VERY IGNORANT. Beyonce is ignorant I dont care what nobody say.

She only claims to be black when it BENEFITS HER.

^ Haha, We posted at the time. Look above miscarousel. *Bow*

Before the performance I told my aunt "Beyonce is going to do this, this, this, and that"

Of course, everything I said, turned out to be true. I love how people think doing the same routine/performance over and over and over again is entertaining.

Overall it was boring, and predictable. She also seemed a step slower than usual, and breathy at some parts.

Such a waste. Someone with current music should of been up there. But of course, she has an album coming out probably before the summer, so she/her team have to shove her down our throat as much as they can before a single is even dropped.

single ladies can hop off a cliff

musicjunky318 said:

Emancipation89 said:

...what kind of crazy websites do you go to? You need to STOP going there hun, it's only a waste of your time & energy! I used to get really worked up about those random hatred I read online but now I realize it's always going to be there no matter what I do so I just try my best to avoid that kind of negative energy in general It's just not worth it!

You don't have to go to flaky websites. Go to Twitter and type in Beyonce + Nigger and see how many hits you get back.

She can claim Indian and French all she wants but America still knows what she is. Black folks are the only people who think if we kiss, and dance, and scratch the obvious will be forgotten.

Me and my girl miscarousel talked about this a few months back on here.

GIRL YES, I just looked and saw your post afterward

Im just sick and tired of that crap, its really poisoning.

But I think its beyond the whole "struck by fame"

SOME black people think just because their brown skin or light skin that their less black or not black and I see this for myself in daily life and I think its ignorant.

They embrace if someone compliments them for being "less black". How is that a compliment? Like being black is bad.... Why would you even take it as a compliment? When people try to do that with me, I set them straight.

We get enough of this from Western Society already

EVERY BLACK person in America is not 100 pure black because of slavery, melting pot and other cultural factors etc but that is a GENERATION/ bloodline thing.

At the end of the day, if you have TWO BLACK parents, then you are BLACK, PERIOD.

The chile, ignorant.