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Thread started 08/07/12 8:42am

smoothcriminal
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Some deep thoughts on Nicki Minaj

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Reply #1 posted 08/07/12 9:13am

RKJCNE

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And this is the reason I hardley post on the org anymore.

Why is there so little respect? I enjoy Nicki's music, and I'm aware plenty of people don't. But to degrade it to such a low level is not just disrespectful to Nicki who is still a human being, but to everyone else who listens to her music. Why can't you just shrug it off and listen to something else? Why is there so much animosity? And especially against black women. I never see as much hatred towards Gaga/Perry/Britney as I do Beyonce/Nicki/Rihanna. It's embaressing.

This is my last org post, I do not wish to be around so much negativity.

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Reply #2 posted 08/07/12 9:20am

AsherFierce

I don't know what's sadder: The dudes facebook rant, or the fact that over 20,000 cats liked it. hmmm It's just music brah.

As for this:

RKJCNE said:

And this is the reason I hardley post on the org anymore.

Why is there so little respect? I enjoy Nicki's music, and I'm aware plenty of people don't. But to degrade it to such a low level is not just disrespectful to Nicki who is still a human being, but to everyone else who listens to her music. Why can't you just shrug it off and listen to something else? Why is there so much animosity? And especially against black women. I never see as much hatred towards Gaga/Perry/Britney as I do Beyonce/Nicki/Rihanna. It's embaressing.

This is my last org post, I do not wish to be around so much negativity.

^ Agreed 110% nod (Except for the leaving the org no no no!)

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Reply #3 posted 08/07/12 9:26am

mjscarousal

RKJCNE said:

And this is the reason I hardley post on the org anymore.

Why is there so little respect? I enjoy Nicki's music, and I'm aware plenty of people don't. But to degrade it to such a low level is not just disrespectful to Nicki who is still a human being, but to everyone else who listens to her music. Why can't you just shrug it off and listen to something else? Why is there so much animosity? And especially against black women. I never see as much hatred towards Gaga/Perry/Britney as I do Beyonce/Nicki/Rihanna. It's embaressing.

This is my last org post, I do not wish to be around so much negativity.

Yes, you should leave since you have an issue with people expressing their opinion on a MESSAGE BOARD.

Gaga, Brittany and Perry get trashed here all the time as well. And the reason why Beyonce, Niki and Rihanna get trashed is because their overrated and make shitty music, it has nothing to do with them being black. Gaga, Brittany and Perry are not getting the same accolades, awards, hits like Beyonce and Rihanna receive which also makes a difference and since this is a music forum people are going to discuss that. O and I am black by the way. There is nothing negative about the post above and the only reason why you have an issue with people bashing them is because you like them.

Nikki music is degrading and there is nothing wrong with people expressing their opinion on it.. if you like it then thats all that matters but that is not stopping nobody else from saying their opinion.

People trash MJ and Whitney all the time on here and praised Madonna.. but I dont see you saying anything about that (Oh yea because you like her to) watever

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Reply #4 posted 08/07/12 9:28am

smoothcriminal
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I think I need to start putting disclaimers in my OPs that when something from another source is posted, the views expressed are not the views of the poster and do not express his thoughts or feelings. lol

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Reply #5 posted 08/07/12 9:32am

Azz

RKJCNE said:

And this is the reason I hardley post on the org anymore.

Why is there so little respect? I enjoy Nicki's music, and I'm aware plenty of people don't. But to degrade it to such a low level is not just disrespectful to Nicki who is still a human being, but to everyone else who listens to her music. Why can't you just shrug it off and listen to something else? Why is there so much animosity? And especially against black women. I never see as much hatred towards Gaga/Perry/Britney as I do Beyonce/Nicki/Rihanna. It's embaressing.

This is my last org post, I do not wish to be around so much negativity.

Whilst Nicki deserves a basic level of humanity, she deserves not an ounce more, arguably less. It's not just that 'her music sucks', it's more than that. It's her pointless, immature, degrading lyrics which majority of the public are subject to everyday of the year. Her image is one which suggests she has no respect for herself, nor respect for her fans and those who buy her music. Her fake implants and demeaning attitude does nothing but to set a bad example to teenage girls - even children like Sophia Grace & Rosie - and ruin the society we live in.

Perhaps I was a little harsh or over the top, but when you see in the media that her fake body and way of life is deemed desirable, and therefore is emulated by adults and children - cementing this certain lifestyle into society, it's frankly disgusting.

The world would be a better place if we idolised and respected deserving inspirational philanthropist public figures - and spend our time learning from them and their way of life.

[Edited 8/7/12 9:43am]

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Reply #6 posted 08/07/12 9:35am

Gunsnhalen

Damn! lol

I used to be a huge music snob as i said here before... but nowaday's i just shrug shit off.

Honestly whether 20,000 or 1000,000 likes come from it, people have different taste.

And this guy is entitled to his thought's, but i'm sorry to say this.. but people simply like what they like. True it is at times the media that force feeds people like Nickion ya.

But i know some awesome people... who are smart & not STD ridden folks as the post describes from homeboy lol who simply think of music as an escape and simple listen to it for fun and not to get deep meaning or lyrics.

Also the dude in the pic look's like a hardcore bro bitch lol

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Reply #7 posted 08/07/12 10:02am

mjscarousal

Gunsnhalen said:

Damn! lol

I used to be a huge music snob as i said here before... but nowaday's i just shrug shit off.

Honestly whether 20,000 or 1000,000 likes come from it, people have different taste.

And this guy is entitled to his thought's, but i'm sorry to say this.. but people simply like what they like. True it is at times the media that force feeds people like Nickion ya.

But i know some awesome people... who are smart & not STD ridden folks as the post describes from homeboy lol who simply think of music as an escape and simple listen to it for fun and not to get deep meaning or lyrics.

Also the dude in the pic look's like a hardcore bro bitch lol

But we all get that lol

I just think its childish when people think others should "hush" "be quiet" or be passive about THEIR opinion on a MESSAGE BOARD eek

Being disrespectful and expressing your opinion are two different things.

Nobody personally attacked Nikki or called her out her name and besides Smooth just reposted something its not like that was HIS opinion. eek

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Reply #8 posted 08/07/12 10:19am

aardvark15

RKJCNE said:

Why is there so little respect? I enjoy Nicki's music, and I'm aware plenty of people don't. But to degrade it to such a low level is not just disrespectful to Nicki who is still a human being, but to everyone else who listens to her music.

yeahthat yeahthat I'm a big Nicki fan. Her first album was one of my favorites of 2010. True her second album sucks in comparrison but it does have it's high points. I think she has a nice image. There's rap Nicki, pop Nicki, and normal Nicki. It's not like she's acting like a whore all the time, it's a part of her image. I like the fact that she can seperate herself from the stereotype of female rappers as sex objects when she wants to.

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Reply #9 posted 08/07/12 10:21am

aardvark15

mjscarousal said:

their overrated and make shitty music

But that's YOUR opinion. Anytime anyone says something good about an artist you don't like you try to shove your opinion about them down our throats like it's a fact.

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Reply #10 posted 08/07/12 10:55am

Marrk

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It fascinates me the amount of time people spend typing about the things they dislike so much. All that time, thought and devotion. Yes, devotion. It's just bizarre.

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #11 posted 08/07/12 11:06am

mjscarousal

aardvark15 said:

mjscarousal said:

their overrated and make shitty music

But that's YOUR opinion. Anytime anyone says something good about an artist you don't like you try to shove your opinion about them down our throats like it's a fact.

No Im not afraid to speak my mind

If you think degrading music is so great... good for you... Ill take Lauryn Hill and Queen Latifah. It is a FACT she makes degrading music. Now whether you think its good or not thats YOUR opinion.

You are not going to shut me up or stop me from saying anything I want to. Just like you posted how you felt.. so did I.

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Reply #12 posted 08/07/12 11:09am

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Marrk said:

It fascinates me the amount of time people spend typing about the things they dislike so much. All that time, thought and devotion. Yes, devotion. It's just bizarre.

I know. I may comment, but I would never go to the star's site and bitch about them continuously (Prince.org anyone?). As for NMinaj-I just find her incredibly boring-but her tone reminds me of a female Eminem.

Maybe people do this "bitch fest" because they are so right that they need to prove it. That's why they are so angry? Who knows?

If I don't like them, I don't support them. If a Kardashian shows up on a show, I automatically flip the channel-they do not deserve my time or energy. I don't rant about the K's-but if I did maybe I would get my 5 mins of fame like the facebook posting dude?

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #13 posted 08/07/12 11:15am

Timmy84

Marrk said:

It fascinates me the amount of time people spend typing about the things they dislike so much. All that time, thought and devotion. Yes, devotion. It's just bizarre.

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Reply #14 posted 08/07/12 11:45am

nursev

Well...Ole boy went in on her lol he obviously has some issues, but also some valid points lol

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Reply #15 posted 08/07/12 11:51am

smoothcriminal
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I wanna know what makes someone think "let me write an essay about why I hate X artist so much". confused

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Reply #16 posted 08/07/12 11:53am

Timmy84

smoothcriminal12 said:

I wanna know what makes someone think "let me write an essay about why I hate X artist so much". confused

Simple: they want attention for themselves. It's one way to say you don't dig a certain artist, it's another when you're borderline nuts.

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Reply #17 posted 08/07/12 11:55am

nursev

smoothcriminal12 said:

I wanna know what makes someone think "let me write an essay about why I hate X artist so much". confused

Internet gangsters lol he wouldn't dare say this shit to Nicki's face lol kinda sad really to waste precious time on rants that don't make a difference.

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Reply #18 posted 08/07/12 11:56am

smoothcriminal
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Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I wanna know what makes someone think "let me write an essay about why I hate X artist so much". confused

Simple: they want attention for themselves. It's one way to say you don't dig a certain artist, it's another when you're borderline nuts.

I've noticed a lot of people seem to cross that line a lot when it comes to music.

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Reply #19 posted 08/07/12 11:56am

smoothcriminal
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nursev said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I wanna know what makes someone think "let me write an essay about why I hate X artist so much". confused

Internet gangsters lol he wouldn't dare say this shit to Nicki's face lol kinda sad really to waste precious time on rants that don't make a difference.

nod Like she's gonna end her career if she ever sees this. lol

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Reply #20 posted 08/07/12 11:56am

Timmy84

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Simple: they want attention for themselves. It's one way to say you don't dig a certain artist, it's another when you're borderline nuts.

I've noticed a lot of people seem to cross that line a lot when it comes to music.

Yeah people be wishing death on folks because apparently they "misued" their "power"... neutral

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Reply #21 posted 08/07/12 11:58am

smoothcriminal
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Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I've noticed a lot of people seem to cross that line a lot when it comes to music.

Yeah people be wishing death on folks because apparently they "misued" their "power"... neutral

Like this guy who went too far talking about STDs. I saw one person say Chris Brown was their least favourite person ever after Osama Bin Laden. eek

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Reply #22 posted 08/07/12 12:00pm

Timmy84

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah people be wishing death on folks because apparently they "misued" their "power"... neutral

Like this guy who went too far talking about STDs. I saw one person say Chris Brown was their least favourite person ever after Osama Bin Laden. eek

Yeah... when you see comments like that, you have to back away very slowly...

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Reply #23 posted 08/07/12 12:03pm

smoothcriminal
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Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Like this guy who went too far talking about STDs. I saw one person say Chris Brown was their least favourite person ever after Osama Bin Laden. eek

Yeah... when you see comments like that, you have to back away very slowly...

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Reply #24 posted 08/07/12 12:21pm

Spinlight

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RKJCNE said:

And this is the reason I hardley post on the org anymore.

Why is there so little respect? I enjoy Nicki's music, and I'm aware plenty of people don't. But to degrade it to such a low level is not just disrespectful to Nicki who is still a human being, but to everyone else who listens to her music. Why can't you just shrug it off and listen to something else? Why is there so much animosity? And especially against black women. I never see as much hatred towards Gaga/Perry/Britney as I do Beyonce/Nicki/Rihanna. It's embaressing.

This is my last org post, I do not wish to be around so much negativity.

LMFAO

YEAH, BLACK WOMEN ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO GET SHIT TALKED.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Reply #25 posted 08/07/12 12:23pm

Spinlight

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aardvark15 said:

RKJCNE said:

Why is there so little respect? I enjoy Nicki's music, and I'm aware plenty of people don't. But to degrade it to such a low level is not just disrespectful to Nicki who is still a human being, but to everyone else who listens to her music.

yeahthat yeahthat I'm a big Nicki fan. Her first album was one of my favorites of 2010. True her second album sucks in comparrison but it does have it's high points. I think she has a nice image. There's rap Nicki, pop Nicki, and normal Nicki. It's not like she's acting like a whore all the time, it's a part of her image. I like the fact that she can seperate herself from the stereotype of female rappers as sex objects when she wants to.

What? No the fuck she can't. Her whole image (including her name) is an ode to sexual objectification. Her fake tits and fake ass and fake hips and botoxed mug are a testament, her lyrics are not poetry in motion my friend.

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Reply #26 posted 08/07/12 12:23pm

smoothcriminal
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Spinlight said:

RKJCNE said:

And this is the reason I hardley post on the org anymore.

Why is there so little respect? I enjoy Nicki's music, and I'm aware plenty of people don't. But to degrade it to such a low level is not just disrespectful to Nicki who is still a human being, but to everyone else who listens to her music. Why can't you just shrug it off and listen to something else? Why is there so much animosity? And especially against black women. I never see as much hatred towards Gaga/Perry/Britney as I do Beyonce/Nicki/Rihanna. It's embaressing.

This is my last org post, I do not wish to be around so much negativity.

LMFAO

YEAH, BLACK WOMEN ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO GET SHIT TALKED.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Reply #27 posted 08/07/12 12:24pm

Spinlight

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smoothcriminal12 said:

Spinlight said:

LMFAO

YEAH, BLACK WOMEN ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO GET SHIT TALKED.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Reply #28 posted 08/07/12 12:38pm

Gunsnhalen

People are always entitled to say what they want, i mean i do happen to like Romans Revenge other then that Nicki is way overexposed and i am sick of her.

But that's that, i just dchoose to not listen to her or radio so:p i guess i am less exposed that way.

I honestly a lot of people spend a lot of time going on about these thing's for like's & such.

Yeah it's cool if youa re 13 & listening to Prince or Black Sabbath or whatever you think is ''real music'' But why must every fucking person on youtube comment like that confused

Not just youtube but in general it's like ok... you are young & listen to so & so band... do you want a fucking cookie? do you want nuts on it?

I mean that is just silly to me lol

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

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Reply #29 posted 08/07/12 12:40pm

Gunsnhalen

mjscarousal said:

aardvark15 said:

But that's YOUR opinion. Anytime anyone says something good about an artist you don't like you try to shove your opinion about them down our throats like it's a fact.

No Im not afraid to speak my mind

If you think degrading music is so great... good for you... Ill take Lauryn Hill and Queen Latifah. It is a FACT she makes degrading music. Now whether you think its good or not thats YOUR opinion.

You are not going to shut me up or stop me from saying anything I want to. Just like you posted how you felt.. so did I.

I would take Lauryn anyday over her as well, this is why i just try to ignore Nicki...

But also people see Lil Kim as a ''legend'' in the game. But she is just as bad as Nicki... Lil Kim talks about sucking more dicks then a fleshlight lol

Back in the day it was either the Lil Kim type of rapper or the Lauryn type.

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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