However anybody may feel about her and her music, let's be real here - that shit is true.

She's the most influential, most well-known, and probably the best-selling/highest concert-grossing, female artist we've seen in modern times.

So I think anyone trying to argue the opposite will really just waste their time and are probably confusing their personal preferences with actual facts. When you sit down and put your bias aside and do the math, Madonna is going to come in first every time.

The Greatest Female pop star of all time died on Feb 11, 2012

grethomory said:

The Greatest Female pop star of all time died on Feb 11, 2012

Glad I didn't have to be the one to say it.

Madonna was and always will be an overrated slut. Can't sing for shit, can't dance for shit. Also, Madonna failed to crossover, which is what POP music is about.

But I guess if you do shit like write books describing how you fuck underage boys and walk around naked people will HAVE to talk about you for decades. You know, since your music sucks ass.

Terrib3Towel said:

grethomory said:

The Greatest Female pop star of all time died on Feb 11, 2012

Glad I didn't have to be the one to say it.

Madonna was and always will be an overrated slut. Can't sing for shit, can't dance for shit. Also, Madonna failed to crossover, which is what POP music is about.

But I guess if you do shit like write books describing how you fuck underage boys and walk around naked people will HAVE to talk about you for decades. You know, since your music sucks ass.

yeah..Whitney Houston was much better than that as doped ass

Terrib3Towel said:

grethomory said:

The Greatest Female pop star of all time died on Feb 11, 2012

Glad I didn't have to be the one to say it.

Madonna was and always will be an overrated slut. Can't sing for shit, can't dance for shit. Also, Madonna failed to crossover, which is what POP music is about.

But I guess if you do shit like write books describing how you fuck underage boys and walk around naked people will HAVE to talk about you for decades. You know, since your music sucks ass.

Never knew Madge fucked underage boys, how old were they???

Anyway, some say Madonna is a slut, other say Whitney was a crackhead....they both had their share, although I rather be a slut than a crackhead

robertlove said:

In terms of commercial success, absolutely, no contest.

Simples; no.

Hahah...with a post like that, you KNOW there's going to be controversy. But yea...Madonna's the G.O.A.T. who continues to climb, even in her 50's, chewing on tin while plucking that chin. You can deny it if you want, but in your heart you know the truth.

The Queen of Pop:

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grethomory said:

The Greatest Female pop star of all time died on Feb 11, 2012

Whitney was great at singing. But she wasn't great at being a pop star. She was just a big one.

She is the greatest. There are a few female artists I prefer to her, but there's no denying her impact as the greatest female pop star.

I agree. of course .... but please name someone that is greatest female pop star of all time in your option.

Is there one? I mean it's not like there HAS to be a "greatest female pop star of all time", seriously.

Madonna is the best selling solo female artist that much is true but greatest? In what way?

"The greatest rock star of all time"/"the greatest musician of all time"/"the greatest rapper of all time"....lol. Really guys if you don't work for VH1 is it really that absolutely necessary to name someone "the greatest"? She's probably also the luckiest pop star in the world, I'd give her that. I'm not even a fan of Gaga or Rihanna but in the same aspect Madonna is called the 'greatest' pop star, they can become the greatest whatever soon enough.

greatest and biggest are 2 completely different things, is she the biggest female pop star of all time? absolutely. madonna's music had no impact on me,i liked a few of her songs but she wasnt my cup of tea, so no way would i consider her the greatest anything.

errant said:

grethomory said:

The Greatest Female pop star of all time died on Feb 11, 2012

Whitney was great at singing. But she wasn't great at being a pop star. She was just a big one.

I agree.Whitney was great but let's face it,she sorta self-destructed in the late-90s.Madonna is a pop star who truly gets it....she knows how to stay on top of her game.

robertlove said:

Anyway, some say Madonna is a slut, other say Whitney was a crackhead....they both had their share, although I rather be a slut than a crackhead

the funny thing is...Whitney was supposed to be the "good girl" but that image was totally false.

Cloudbuster said:

In terms of commercial success, absolutely, no contest.

If this is based strictly on commercial success,I would agree but I would also take into account the impact she had on the pop music world and her longevity,as well....

Maybe the greatest, but certainly not the best!

Madonna is definitely the greatest! Gaga has talent but emulates Madonna too much(which will hang over her head for all eternity) and no one else will ever have that appeal across the board.

SoulAlive said:

Cloudbuster said:

In terms of commercial success, absolutely, no contest.

If this is based strictly on commercial success,I would agree but I would also take into account the impact she had on the pop music world and her longevity,as well....

• According to the Guinness Book of World Records, Madonna is the most successful female recording artist of all time.
• Madonna has 12 No. 1 singles on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles Chart,
• Madonna has 6 No. 2 singles on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles Chart, the most for a female artist, tying her with Elvis Presley for the record.
• Madonna has the most Top 5 singles by a female artist on Billboard's Hot 100 Chart (29).
• Madonna has the most Top 10 singles on Billboard's Hot 100 Chart (37), Surpassing Elvis.
• Madonna has the most Top 20 singles by a female artist on Billboard's Hot 100 Chart (42).
• Madonna has the most Top 30 singles by a female artist on Billboard's Hot 100 Chart (44).
• Madonna has the most Top 40 singles by a female artist on Billboard's Hot 100 Chart (47).
• Madonna has the most certified (RIAA) singles by an artist with 24 Gold, Platinum, or Multi-Platinum singles in the U.S.
• Madonna has 7 No. 1 albums on Billboard's Top 200 Albums Chartand behind only Barbara Streisand's 8 among female artists.
• Madonna has 5 No. 2 albums on Billboard's Top 200 Albums Chart, behind only The Beatles' 6 and Frank Sinatra's 7.
• Madonna is the most successful dance artist in music history; she has 39 #1 singles on Billboard's Hot Dance/Club Play Singles Chart, more than twice the number of her nearest rival Janet Jackson. Madonna also has 25 #1 singles on Billboard's Hot Dance Single Sales Chart, more than three times the number of her nearest rivals Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Prince, and Notorious B.I.G.
• Madonna's The Immaculate Collection is the highest selling greatest hits album ever by a female artist with estimated worldwide sales of over 23 million copies.
• Madonna has had more music videos played more often on MTV than any other artist.
• Madonna was voted by MTV viewers as the greatest music video icon ever on the network's 25 Greatest Video Stars.
• Madonna was named the sexiest recording artist ever on VH1's 100 Sexiest Artists.
• Madonna is the most successful act in the history of MTV's Video Music Awards with an all time record 67 VMA nominations and 19 VMA wins.
• Maverick Records is the most successful "vanity label" in music history. While under Madonna's control it generated well over $1 billion for Warner Bros. Records, more money than any other recording artist's record label.
• Madonna is the richest female singer in the world.
• From Borderline in 1984 - Cherish in 1989 Madonna achieved 17 consecutive top 10 singles.
• From Lucky Star in 1984 to Cherish in 1989 Madonna achieved 16 top 5 singles, surpassing the Beatles (Elvis holds the record), and no artist has duplicated this since.
• Madonna holds the second-longest string of consecutive Top Five hits - and the most by a female artist - with a run of 16 that extended from 1984's "Lucky Star" to 1989's "Cherish." Furthermore, Madonna is the only recording artist for whom every album (except those from which no single was released) has yielded a Top Ten hit.
• Madonna has won 7 Grammy awards.
• Madonna won a Golden Globe in 1996 for her role on Evita.
• Madonna has been regarded as "one of the greatest pop acts of all time" and dubbed the "Queen of Pop"
• She is ranked by the RIAA as the best-selling female rock artist of the twentieth century.
• On March 10, 2008, she was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
• On August 23, 2008, Madonna embarked on the Sticky & Sweet Tour, her first major venture with Live Nation. It became the highest-grossing tour ever by a solo artist with $US280 million, surpassing the title previous held by her 2006 Confessions Tour. The tour also set new records in several countries for attendance and ticket sales.
• In the United Kingdom, she is the most successful female in the singles chart history and has more number one singles than any other female solo artist.
• Billboard magazine's All-Time Top 100 Artists on their 50th year anniversary, Madonna is listed #2 as the most successful singles artist only behind The Beatles.
• Madonna has sold an estimated more than 300 million albums and 150 million singles worldwide. Only Michael Jackson, Elvis, The Beatles & Bing Crosby have sold more.
• Hard Candy reached #1 in 27 countries.
• Her 2005 single "Hung Up" reached #1 in a record breaking 45 countries.
• On the United World Chart, Madonna is the Most Successful Singles Artist of All Time and has a record of 13 Number One singles.

wow thanx 4 sharing! she achieved alot

Janet Jackson is the greatest, not Madonna.

If you like her, that's great!

But it's impossible to say who is the greatest. Each one of us is going to define "greatest" in our own way. We can all say who our favorite is, though.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Janet Jackson is the greatest, not Madonna.

fat chance

go2theMax said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Janet Jackson is the greatest, not Madonna.

fat chance

smoothcriminal12 said:

Janet Jackson is the greatest, not Madonna.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Janet Jackson is the greatest, not Madonna.

I'm a HUGE fan of both I really don't think either one is better than the other in terms of influence and success

Madonna and Elton John: Inside their decade-long feud

By

Lauren Moraski

Madonna, Elton John

(Credit: CBS/Getty)

(CBS News) Madonna and Elton John's latest feud is nothing new. For years, their remarks have been playing out on a public stage.

John, for one, doesn't hold back when he talks to the media, oftentimes spewing controversial comments about the "Queen of Pop."

Just this month, he said Madonna's "career is over," calling the 53-year-old singer a "fairground stripper."

Here's a look at what has gone down between the two stars -- and one-time friends -- over the past decade:

November 2002 - John bashed Madonna's theme song for the 007 movie, "Die Another Day," calling it "the worst Bond tune ever."

"It hasn't got a tune," John, 65, told the U.K.'s Sky News. "James Bond themes are usually very camp and this one's different ... They should have gone for somebody like Lulu and Shirley Bassey, or maybe I'm in that league?"

He added, "I don't think it's the best Madonna record and I'm a big fan."

October 2004 - John famously slammed Madonna at the 2004 Q Awards in London. During the show, hosted by British music magazine Q, John said he was surprised to see Madge nominated in the best live act category.

"Since when has lip-synching been live? Anyone who lip-synchs in public on stage when you pay 75 pounds to see them should be shot. Thank you very much," he said while accepting t...iter award. "That's me off her Christmas card list, but do I give a toss? No."

Madonna's spokesperson Liz Rosenberg released a statement shortly after, explaining: "Madonna does not lip-synch nor does she spend her time trashing other artists. She sang every note of her Re-Invention tour live and is not ashamed that she was well paid for her hard work ... Elton John remains on her Christmas card list whether he is nice ... or naughty."

John then spoke with Access Hollywood about his comments, saying he was "unfair."

"You know, I just said what I said and I've been meaning to say it for a long time," John said. "It was probably a bit unfair on Madonna, because a lot of people lip-synch worse and their whole show is lip-synched. Her show is not wholly lip-synched but there's an element to it." John went on to praise the singer's talent, saying, "Madonna is a great artist, she's a great writer, she's a great performer, she makes great records and I just want to leave it at that."

Later that month, he told Entertainment Weekly, "I don't want to escalate it because I like Madonna. She's been to my house for dinner. It was something that was said in the heat of the moment, and probably should not have been said." John added, "Would I apologize to her if I saw her? Yeah, because I don't want to hurt any artist's feelings. It was my fault. I instigated the whole thing. But it applies to all those bloody teenage singers."

August 2005 - Madonna and John were still on rocky ground a couple of years later. "I did send her two Christmas cards and they both came back," John told the U.K.'s Daily Telegraph in December 2005.

December 2005 - It appeared as though Madonna still wouldn't forgive John for accusing her of lip-synching in concert. The New York Post reported that John tried to make amends by inviting her to perform at his and David Furnish's bachelor party in London. But John reportedly told his guests, "Madonna, the miserable cow, wouldn't do it."

Madonna's spokeswoman responded, "Madonna wishes Elton all the best, and hopes married life will make him a happier person."

February 2011: And in 2011, John didn't change his tune on lip-synching. When Rolling Stoneasked him how he feels about it, he said, "Anyone who lip-syncs should be shot. Just take 'em out on the street and shoot 'em. I think Madonna 's a fantastic showgirl -- show-woman -- and I'm a big fan of some of her records. I didn't want to hurt her feelings, and subsequently I've made up and apologized. I think she paved the way for everybody, but I am right. I'm right. Live means live."

January 2012 - Things got heated at the beginni... this year when John's partner, David Furnish, got involved. John and Madonna were competing against each other in the best original song Golden Globe category, and after Madge's win, Furnish, blasted the singer in a private message on Facebook, which was later deleted. He reportedly wrote: "Madonna. Best song???? F**k off!!!"

"Madonna winning best original song truly shows how these awards have nothing to do with merit," Furnish added. The British filmmaker called Madonna's acceptance speech embarrassing in its narcissism, noting that her criticism of Lady Gaga "shows how desperate she really is."

John, meanwhile, launched into the Madonna bashing even before the ceremony began, telling Carson Daly that Madonna had "no f---ing chance" of winning the honor. When asked if "those were fighting words," he said, "No, those are accurate words."

After her Golden Globes win, Madonna laughed off John's comments while chatting with the press backstage, saying, that John "speaks to me for the next couple of years. He's been known to get mad at me, so I don't know. He's brilliant, and I adore him, so he'll win another award. I don't feel bad."

Furnish later spoke up about the incident, saying his comments were taken the wrong way.

"My passion for our film 'Gnomeo & Juliet' and belief in Elton's song really got my emotional juices going," he said. "But I must say for the record that I do believe Madonna is a great artist, and that Elton and I wish her all the best for next week's premiere of the film 'W.E.'"

July 2012: John reignited the Madonna feud this summer in an interview with Molly Meldrum, which aired on Australian TV.

John said, "Why is she such a nightmare? Sorry, her career is over. Her tour has been a disaster and it couldn't happen to a bigger [expletive]."

"If Madonna had any common sense, she would have made a record like 'Ray of Light,' stayed away from the dance stuff and just been a great pop singer and made great pop records, which she does brilliantly. But no, she had to prove that she was like ...," he said, not specifying. "And she looks like a [expletive] fairground stripper."

Madonna has yet to respond.

Tell us: What do you think about Madonna and Elton John's feud?

madonna being the greatest female is like elvis being the king of rock n roll, black people opinions dont really count so it is what it is.

lowkey said:

madonna being the greatest female is like elvis being the king of rock n roll, black people opinions dont really count so it is what it is.

God damn.